GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #27 *Arrest*

[TXmomof3]

My thoughts exactly. I still think the dry lakebed areas of Lake Lavon are a possibility. Vehicles can easily access this area and it is close by. Lots of heaps of trash and overgrowth there.

We drove to Farmersville this weekend and the entire drive I looked for signs of Christina. I saw trash and debris and overgrown shrubbery everywhere. It brought me to tears at how daunting a task it is. I go from sad to outraged just thinking about it. Enrique needs to talk NOW so this fsmily can have some peace. Anyway, my point is there is a lot of places around Lake Lavon that I bet EA is familiar with.

 

[catpatrol]

This is the same PPD that wouldn't confirm if the DNA evidence that lead to EA's arrest was Christina's DNA. They're not gonna tell us their knowledge of the bite.

Regardless, abrasions and bruises on the hands and forearms. They really don't even have to mention the word bite and I think that's gonna stick with jurors. His story makes no sense about a tire falling on his arm, he's already lied about literally every other thing. He has no credibility and that will be obvious. Combine the abrasions with Christina's DNA in his trunk, cleaning his trunk the next morning, wiping his cell phone on the same day, etc. It's easy to paint the picture without the bite, IMO.

 

[JnRyan]

The article says "On Dec. 9, DNA evidence collected through a forensic analysis of his vehicle came back positive, supporting the detectives’ theory that Morris left the parking garage undetected in Arochi’s trunk." But assuming that article is basing its ideas off the warrant as it says it is, it actually misstates the warrant and its evidence.

The warrant says that CM's DNA was found in the trunk, and that they believe (at some point) she was in the trunk. But it does NOT say she was in there when EA left the garage, and in fact, since the DNA has no time stamp on it, they could not know at what point that occurred.

So, the article is not very good reporting imo, at least in that respect.

But what we have so far indicates that the only DNA found in the passenger seat is that of an unknown male. If EA cleaned the front passenger area and LE still found this but not hers, it seems a logical theory. How far that will get in court, though, remains to be seen. (Of course, that could have occurred AFTER Christina's disappearance.)

 

[CatsInTheCradle]

Reading this article I clicked on the comment button. There was a long comment that was well... Bizarre.

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/crim...-morris-search-enrique-arochi-allen/20697839/

AY YIYIYIYI (thanks for pointing that out)
that is one brave guy posting that even under an anonymous name

 

[SteveS]

BBM - so going off the one instance event what do you think happened?

I think EA left the Shops at 3:58 with CM as a passenger. They drove to place X (somewhere past 121/Custer) and generally toward a place that CM agreed with. Whether they got there, I dunno.

But at some point, there was a fight/struggle/bite/wreck/trunk-placing, and I think it was most likely at either one of two places:
(a) at the far geographic end of the out-and-back roundtrip that took place from 3:58 to 4:47, as the traveling stopped and things changed, or
(b) back at Shops general area around 4:50, with them having gone somewhere, EA returning her as a passenger with CM expecting (or demanding?) EA to take her back to her car, and then at/near the end of the roundtrip it all got ugly with the ruckus occurring somewhere near there.

 

[JnRyan]

Reading this article I clicked on the comment button. There was a long comment that was well... Bizarre.

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/crim...-morris-search-enrique-arochi-allen/20697839/

This could easily be closing remarks of EA's attorney at the trial. I'm hoping that LE and the DA have even more evidence than what they've shown already.

 

[SteveS]

If I was a jury member I would want to see some credible photo proof of a human bite along with verification. Partial or Full set of teeth

Whether the evidence is perfect or not, that does not exclude it from being presented and letting the jury decide on its merits. It doesn't take a LE person to validate what a person says they say, in order to have the testimony allowed. Did one person say they saw a bite mark? Several? A pic that even backs it up?

Obviously a defense attorney will try to challenge and deny everything they can, but juries aren't stupid, and their common sense will be part of the equation if the defense tries to deny. It's not as if EA has a track record for honesty.

 

[catpatrol]

This could easily be closing remarks of EA's attorney at the trial. I'm hoping that LE and the DA have even more evidence than what they've shown already.

Really? With Thedirty.com as evidence? :nevermind:

 

[JnRyan]

I think EA left the Shops at 3:58 with CM as a passenger. They drove to place X (somewhere past 121/Custer) and generally toward a place that CM agreed with. Whether they got there, I dunno.

But at some point, there was a fight/struggle/bite/wreck/trunk-placing, and I think it was most likely at either one of two places:
(a) at the far geographic end of the out-and-back roundtrip that took place from 3:58 to 4:47, as the traveling stopped and things changed, or
(b) back at Shops general area around 4:50, with them having gone somewhere, EA returning her as a passenger with CM expecting (or demanding?) EA to take her back to her car, and then at/near the end of the roundtrip it all got ugly with the ruckus occurring somewhere near there.

My scenarios were very similar to this early on. However, I can't reconcile my earlier scenarios with the fact that the affidavit only states that the test results show an unknown male's DNA. Her DNA in not in the passenger seat area? Of course, MAYBE LE did find her DNA in the passenger seat. The affidavit really states that 'other DNA profiles are present in the evidence collected to include the DNA of an unknown male contributor.'

That statement leaves a lot open. Did they find other DNA evidence that they did identify? Girl friend? A family related DNA? Why point out that there was an unknown male? And now that I look at it LE doesn't say that they DIDN'T find Christina's DNA in the passenger seat.

The possible scenarios are still all over the place with this affidavit.

 

[txyorkiemom]

A poster up thread stated that one possibility is that EA got beat up not by CM, but by who ever he might have dropped her off at - having to do with the possible Drug connections.. that is only one of several scenarios to put in the possible file.

Has anyone ever considered - It might have been his Dad beating the crap out of him for coming home at 5:30am and possibly disrespecting his house rules? 24 or not .. parents house -parents rules.

Even when I was already married 23 yrs old and had gone to visit my parents for 5 days and went out to have a girls night with my friends from college.. I came home at 4am and my Dad was up waiting for me .. and said all the same stuff he did just as if I was 20.
Rules are Rules - You are to be back in this house by 3am - "Curfew Never Changes In My House" -My Dad was ex Navy ..so he was pretty Brut!!
He literally called my Husband at 4:30am and told him what time I came in the house!!

 

[CatsInTheCradle]

As a recent patient of dental work and my mouth still sore, I so wish we could move on from the dental talk. Just kidding!! carry on. I'm a scroller and roller so seriously just kidding.

 

[txyorkiemom]

Really? With Thedirty.com as evidence? :nevermind:

That is an interesting read...

 

[Cortne]

As per usual we haven't seen the states case but this is for sure a defense attorneys dream case!
Sure wish this mess would produce a live Christina.


all jmo

 

[CatsInTheCradle]

As per usual we haven't seen the states case but this is for sure a defense attorneys dream case!
Sure wish this mess would produce a live Christina.


all jmo

I agree with you on all counts. It worries me that PPD never processed the garage (as far as I know) when Christina went missing and wouldn't even commit to a crime being committed. I really had a feeling (maybe it was just hoping) that something would break before Christmas.

 

[ahintexas]

AY YIYIYIYI (thanks for pointing that out)
that is one brave guy posting that even under an anonymous name

That comment? Wowza! I would hope someone forwarded the comment to PPD. Could be worth looking into.jmo

 

[SteveS]

But what we have so far indicates that the only DNA found in the passenger seat is that of an unknown male. If EA cleaned the front passenger area and LE still found this but not hers, it seems a logical theory. How far that will get in court, though, remains to be seen. (Of course, that could have occurred AFTER Christina's disappearance.)

My point was that the article is drawing a conclusion that the warrant did NOT make. It's important that we keep that straight, so we don't later get confused about what is known or believed by PPD and what is not.

If you want to make your own argument that you think she probably wasn't in the front, based on the points you just made, that's a different matter. But it's important we recognize this is your idea, and you're going beyond what PPD is claiming. As for what they think as to when she was put in the trunk, we don't know either way.

In response to your idea, I'd note the following.

We don't know if they do or don't have DNA of her in the front. All we know is that they do have DNA from her in the trunk. They also have DNA from a male, but that could be EA's and I don't think it was said to have been specifically from the front of the vehicle.

 

[Momoffourboys]

The article says "On Dec. 9, DNA evidence collected through a forensic analysis of his vehicle came back positive, supporting the detectives’ theory that Morris left the parking garage undetected in Arochi’s trunk." But assuming that article is basing its ideas off the warrant as it says it is, it actually misstates the warrant and its evidence.

The warrant says that CM's DNA was found in the trunk, and that they believe (at some point) she was in the trunk. But it does NOT say she was in there when EA left the garage, and in fact, since the DNA has no time stamp on it, they could not know at what point that occurred.

So, the article is not very good reporting imo, at least in that respect.

I suppose we each interpret it differently, however, this is what is stated in the arrest affidavit page 9 paragraph 1:
"Affiant further believes Arochi left TSAL area and returned to his residence with Christina Morris in the
trunk of his 2010 Chevrolet Camaro"



https://cbsdallas.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/380a-20141212-arrest-10-sw-arrest-return-sealed.pdf

 

[Le Singe]

The bite mark - assuming it existed - must have occurred in the 3 minutes before he left garage. Something occurred and EA attempted a choke hold and failed to get to her neck and she bit him? He succeeded on the next attempt? How long does it take for a choke hold to render someone unconscious?

could possibly occured when he was trying to hold a hand over her mouth to keep the noise down.

 

[txyorkiemom]

Whether the evidence is perfect or not, that does not exclude it from being presented and letting the jury decide on its merits. It doesn't take a LE person to validate what a person says they say, in order to have the testimony allowed. Did one person say they saw a bite mark? Several? A pic that even backs it up?

Obviously a defense attorney will try to challenge and deny everything they can, but juries aren't stupid, and their common sense will be part of the equation if the defense tries to deny. It's not as if EA has a track record for honesty.

BBM- That is why I stated -If I was on the Jury - You are so right - about not being stupid and having common sense. Validated proof and factual evidence is a must when having no reasonable doubt to decide a possible maximum life or death sentence.

 

[CookieM]

But what we have so far indicates that the only DNA found in the passenger seat is that of an unknown male. If EA cleaned the front passenger area and LE still found this but not hers, it seems a logical theory. How far that will get in court, though, remains to be seen. (Of course, that could have occurred AFTER Christina's disappearance.)

Does the warrant say that the DNA from the unknown male was from the passenger seat? I didn't see that in the warrant. If they are going with a SA motive, for all we know there could be semen on the back seat (sorry to be graphic, but it could be....) Not like there would be a lot of room, but in a SA, I don't think comfort is the concern.