GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #33 *Arrest*

[CatsInTheCradle]

Ha! Doesn't bother me! If they want to track the crazy days of this dance mom, more power to them. I honestly love OnStar. It's come in handy traveling by myself with a small baby, and had no cell phone reception.

O/T - that would be scary to me so glad you have it. (BBM)

 

[Quailfoot]

Why would EA return and put her, dead or dying, in his trunk, then?

I think the return to the shopping area is what throws most of us because we all agree he did something. If he'd just been near his home, as the pings state, then nothing further, I think there would be fewer questions.

The return says something; we just don't know what. Only EA, and a possible helper, knows.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Ha! Doesn't bother me! If they want to track the crazy days of this dance mom, more power to them. I honestly love OnStar. It's come in handy traveling by myself with a small baby, and had no cell phone reception.

Agreed. I had it for years. Gave it up with my Yukon.

 

[txyorkiemom]

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/loca...egacy-equusearch-find-missing-woman/15366369/
"I just want her to come home and be alive," he said.

Foster said he regrets not being there early Saturday morning when Morris vanished. She had spent Friday night and early Saturday morning out with her girlfriends. Surveillance images show Morris with a friend walking through a garage at the Shops at Legacy.

"If I would have been there, none of this would have happened," Foster lamented

This makes me think that he felt a sense of guilt - not that he personally did anything, BUT IF EA was upset about getting/not getting some good drugs and took it out on Christina, then he may have felt responsible. JMO

So true .. but then we have this comparison as well ...

Catherine Ross @CatherineNBC5 · Jan 15
Arochi to Police: "Trust me, none of this would've happened if I'd walked her to car", says he doesn't even know what she drives

So both said "None of This would have happened IF."....
so similar in their perspectives

 

[Eileen730]

First sentences in the article.
"This headline is not yet true. But it will soon be. And it will be so because first we dared to imagine it could be."

I know!!!!!!!
I knowww!!!!!
I know!!!
lol

 

[CatsInTheCradle]

So true .. but then we have this comparison as well ...

Catherine Ross @CatherineNBC5 · Jan 15
Arochi to Police: "Trust me, none of this would've happened if I'd walked her to car", says he doesn't even know what she drives

So both said "None of This would have happened IF."....
so similar in their perspectives

::sigh:: well then I don't know lol....good point YorkieMom

 

[Eileen730]

Staubb (crime scene investigator) said they used Blue Star and that indicated blood.
From Feagans's article of notes:
"Criminalists used Blue Star to locate two spots indicating the presence of blood in the trunk. The samples contained a mixture of Morris’ DNA and at least one other person. They did not have Arochi’s DNA at the time to compare."

http://m.starlocalmedia.com/allenam...862-9de4-11e4-b48e-5765cf2b7e65.html?mode=jqm

When do u think they will have his DNA?
This boggles my mind after all this time and he is and has been the primary POI.

 

[Quailfoot]

IMO - you have to have a warrant to obtain DNA from someone. PPD was busy building their case as it was only a "missing persons" case early on. Once PPD searched his vehicle with his consent and compared the DNA in the trunk to CM, there was a hit. At that point PPD had their probable cause to charge EA with AK. At that time they can get EA's DNA legally and see if it matches the mixed DNA of CM and unidentified DNA in the trunk. PPD knew they had their guy early on, they're busy building the case and making sure all evidence is obtained properly so it cant be tossed out at trial for some reason. Again, JMO.

There is an affidavit to take EA's DNA, but I can't find it now. If I remember correctly, it was the same day or shortly after he was arrested. Anyone else, maybe, see it as well or have it handy?

 

[Gigglingtoes]

I know it is a "Crazy Train" (Ozzy) for sure. :drumroll:

This is obviously information that was told back in Sept to JM. My guess is she must have gotten the information as fact from the LE investigators-I do not think she could have improvised much at this time. JMO~
We later find out that he tells ID Discovery show another version of he lost his phone as well.

http://www.uptowndallasgirl.com/dallas-news/missing-woman-christina-morris-updates-and-how-to-help/
<snipped by me for space>
I sat down with Jonnie McElroy, Christina&#8217;s mother desperate for answers on Wednesday, September 17. Two whole weeks after her
daughter went missing. &#8220;I am in mission mode, I am going to find my daughter.&#8221; her mother stated. &#8220;It&#8217;s frustrating as a mother to
not be given details about my own child&#8217;s whereabouts, we need awareness, we need help.&#8221; she goes on to say.
What We Do Know:
-Christina&#8217;s boyfriend Hunter is not a suspect and is devastated by the disappearance. He was at home and police and witnesses
confirm. Christina&#8217;s mother even stated, &#8220;Hunter is an emotional wreck right now.&#8221;
-Christina sent a text at 3:36am to her boyfriend who was at home asleep that said &#8220;I can&#8217;t find the keys to the house.&#8221; after no response at 3:58am, 1 minute after the surveillance footage was taken, she sent another text to her boyfriend that said, &#8220;Can you please leave the door unlocked?&#8221; &#8211;As said by her mother &#8220;This means she must have gotten a ride with someone.&#8221;

I can't help when I read that but think, why lie about where you were to her mom HF? I mean what would be so bad saying "I was out at the W" really?
She already had to know he was a dumbass whether he was sleeping or at the W. I dont get why he lied.

I bet someone will say he was on dope so maybe he didn't recall :crosseyed:
Don't buy it. Not saying he killed christina. Just wondering why he lied

 

[ahintexas]

O/T - that would be scary to me so glad you have it. (BBM)

It was! Had a blowout in the middle of nowhere Oklahoma, and no cell reception. It was like 10 pm, and spooky. Panic started to kick in until i remembered I had OnStar.

 

[mimi56]

FWIW, IMO, if CM was alive and forced into the trunk, then the "large quantity of her DNA" could have been from sweat. We're talking late August in Texas! It is HOT! She would have been sweating profusely in a matter of minutes. Maybe the "couple of spots that luminesced" were from her trying to draw attention by banging or clawing at something trying to find a way to get the trunk open and free herself and left a small amount of blood from scraped knuckles or bloody fingers. ( I hate typing that!) IDK, just a thought.

 

[Eileen730]

I can't help when I read that but think, why lie about where you were to her mom HF? I mean what would be so bad saying "I was out at the W" really?
She already had to know he was a dumbass whether he was sleeping or at the W. I dont get why he lied.

I bet someone will say he was on dope so maybe he didn't recall :crosseyed:
Don't buy it. Not saying he killed christina. Just wondering why he lied

I think there is a lot of lying going on!

 

[Gigglingtoes]

I would think he would confess with al the evidence they say they have on him!

Why would he?
He's only got a AK charge right now. No body. No murder charge and there is nothing to benefit him to confess.

 

[Quailfoot]

I ruled out the conspiracy angle a while back (I believe around September 4th).. I just haven't seen enough proof or motive for anyone else to be involved with something as serious as a murder plot JMO!

If not murder, overdose? Because many states now are prosecuting drug suppliers/dealers for murder when their users die, perhaps that would be motive for as many parties as possible to keep quiet.

Which, again, is why I think if they were charging EA with murder, he'd sing out rather quickly if someone else was involved. Right now, he isn't even indicted by a grand jury for anything, so there's not as much pressure on him, I think, as the PPD/prosecution had hoped there would be.

 

[Gigglingtoes]

I think there is a lot of lying going on!

well duh so do I. I'm just thinking he has a reason to lie. What that is, idk.

 

[CookieM]

I think the return to the shopping area is what throws most of us because we all agree he did something. If he'd just been near his home, as the pings state, then nothing further, I think there would be fewer questions.

The return says something; we just don't know what. Only EA, and a possible helper, know

I agree. That is the most confusing to me as well: the traveling north on 121 and then returning. This is really the part that makes me question if others were involved and/or she went willingly. To me it makes more sense to think she agreed to ride somewhere with him and then he made some excuse to stop or pull over and something happened then. Or they were going somewhere and either he got a message from someone (or he pretended to) and that's why he double backed. Of course how do you explain the thoughts of a person who appears to be responsible for someone's disappearance/murder??? It's hard to put logic to work here, if you ask me. But I just try to piece things together somehow.

If her phone actually did die, and she had been aware that EA texted HF for some "good rock," for all we know EA could have told her that HF responded and said "Meet me at that parking lot north of 121 and Alma." And even if it weren't true, maybe CM fell for it and EA said, since he's pissed and won't answer you just ride with me over there, he'll have to talk to you once he sees you there and you can make up and stop fighting. Maybe that's how he got her in the car. Then they exit 121 and sit there waiting and then he makes some move on her and that's when it all happened. Then he thought he'd bring her to the Shops to dump her off but those cars were leaving the garage so she decided to drive back to Allen.

Just spit ballin' ideas here. Trying to make sense of the timing of texts and lack of cell use and phone ping timing. All just my "creative thinking."

 

[Gigglingtoes]

Well, there's only one thing that truly "happened to her," right? Which is, EA put her IN HIS TRUNK, obviously against her will and certainly not for her welfare; the evidence we've seen says she was bleeding profusely IN HIS TRUNK; and she's never been seen or heard from again.

I know you're here for whatever you want to discuss. So am I. I like to focus on the bottom line, on what the evidence is showing us rather than the curiosities that really don't change the bottom line at all. But that's just me.

Things like the keys, for example, I think they have already accepted the obvious and have no reason whatsoever to be thinking about them. And they don't matter anyhow, because whether she had no keys or a pocketful, EA still put her IN HIS TRUNK and she's never been seen again.

I also think that stuff we might see as hazy (as curiosities) may already be completely figured out by LE with plenty of proof. That's because, as this case has evolved, each time LE is forced to offer a peek behind the curtain, we are surprised by how much more proof and evidence they have. I have no doubt there's a mountain of hidden goodies back there, hidden, that they are using to work from further as they wait for test results and look for CM.

Oh no.. Not the keys......:scared: I cant

 

[txyorkiemom]

http://www.wfaa.com/story/news/loca...egacy-equusearch-find-missing-woman/15366369/
"I just want her to come home and be alive," he said.

Foster said he regrets not being there early Saturday morning when Morris vanished. She had spent Friday night and early Saturday morning out with her girlfriends. Surveillance images show Morris with a friend walking through a garage at the Shops at Legacy.

"If I would have been there, none of this would have happened," Foster lamented

So true .. but then we have this comparison as well ...

Catherine Ross @CatherineNBC5 · Jan 15
Arochi to Police: "Trust me, none of this would've happened if I'd walked her to car", says he doesn't even know what she drives

So both said "None of This would have happened IF."....
so similar in their perspectives

::sigh:: well then I don't know lol....good point YorkieMom

JMO~ just drilling down on these statements:
"If I would have been there, none of this would have happened," Foster lamented -
My 1st question is : So was there someone else that you know or sent in your place to be there????

Arochi to Police: "Trust me, none of this would've happened if I'd walked her to car"
My 1st Question is: Was there someone else that you know that did ? What happened at the car?

 

[CookieM]

There is an affidavit to take EA's DNA, but I can't find it now. If I remember correctly, it was the same day or shortly after he was arrested. Anyone else, maybe, see it as well or have it handy?

It was the same day as his arrest. December 13. It was the same warrant for searching his parents' house. I don't have the link handy but did you just want the date?

 

[Quailfoot]

Why would he?
He's only got a AK charge right now. No body. No murder charge and there is nothing to benefit him to confess.

Correct. Until the Grand Jury indicts him, there is no reason - from his defense's standpoint - for him to talk.

An AK conviction is 2-99 years. Don't know about eligibility for parole. As of now, though, it look like it'll be a long battle just to get to the court room.