GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #34 *Arrest*

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  • #721
I doubt if Christina was scared or worried about walking with EA...at least she does not appear to be, in the brief video. She is only paying attention to her phone. Generally if one is on alert, they would look more aware of their surroundings. She seems to be just walking along, absorbed in her phone and he is barely paying attention either. Whatever happened, happened fast, to change that scene, Imo.
 
  • #722
Crazy, too. They weren't even in town that weekend....even though we had the earlier speculation that they were involved. People here...crazy.

They have been in the United States for about a dozen years, no crime spot on any of the family except for the cell phone thing, and people expect them to know what to do when their son is arrested? How could they know?

I'd bet they have less understanding of the criminal justice system than even most American citizens. They're so confused about what to do that they've hired this Accion America to speak for them. I doubt either of the parents could have even a short conversation with anyone in English.

They're confused and scared, I'm sure. And, people are asking why they aren't more vocal? Come on.

I'd only have been suspicious of them if their son had headed back to Mexico before his arrest. Seriously, you guys, look back. The mom let the investigators in the house, no problem. They took their son to talk to the investigators on another occasion. What is it the Arochi family haters really think his parents can do?
I am not an Arochi family hater. You are correct the mother let LE in when they came looking for EA. They actually should be thanked for talking their son into letting LE search his car and get it over with at the beginning. He didnt want to, he was trying to stall possibly for more clean up time. But speaking of clean up time they had to have seen him cleaning his vehicle in the driveway. LE sure did. That was most likely not the first or only time with all the empty bottles of cleaning supplies. They had to have seen he had injuries. They seen the damage to his car. Yes maybe they wanted to believe their son but its time to take the blinders off.

I hope this post is not considered victim bashing because that is not my intention at all. The only thing they are guilty of is believing and loving their son. They are just as much a victim as CM and her family. I can not imagine as a parent and as a mother what it would be like to realize my son has possibly done something so unspeakable. What do you do? Watch your son get the death penalty? Look at Casey Anthony's mom. She lost a grandchild not a stranger. But to also lose her daughter to life in jail or the death penalty she could not bare. All JMO
 
  • #723
I doubt if Christina was scared or worried about walking with EA...at least she does not appear to be, in the brief video. She is only paying attention to her phone. Generally if one is on alert, they would look more aware of their surroundings. She seems to be just walking along, absorbed in her phone and he is barely paying attention either. Whatever happened, happened fast, to change that scene, Imo.

Maybe that was the start of it.. she was totally ignoring him..
 
  • #724
Yes, the pictures of two keys. Two keys to what - the car - Nope, don't think so. The keys to the house - I don't think so. Keys to a motel or hotel room - maybe. Why drive to Fort Worth? That's a long drive.... Not so much to where the boyfriend was staying that night.



im sure the W in downtown dallas is still using "keys" for the door ....
 
  • #725
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At the moment I can't find a link to the picture of the keys.
CM sent a message to HF to tell him she couldn't find her house keys and after no reply she messaged him again to leave the door unlocked. Perhaps the picture showed 2 keys but not the one she needed?

My impression at the time was that maybe HF had removed the house key from her key ring without her realizing it, because he wanted her out? Maybe that is the reason for his delay in reporting her missing? Maybe he just figured she got the message and went with someone else?

Because what was the message to HF about "that good rock"? I got lost there but had the impression that EA actually sent it to HF.

I am not sure if any of this thought process makes any sense so I am reviewing the whole topic.
Thanks everyone!

:cow:

i think its hard to make sense of it because we don't know the time of each of the various texts (except for the good rock one at 3:50 - 3:55) nor do we even know what order they came in and the order of those statements makes all the difference in the world.
 
  • #727
You don't have any confirmation that CM was trying to get HF to stop selling drugs.

All I know (and all I said) is that the family and or friends have said the "breakup" (or possibility of one, the idea they were on rocky ground as a couple) was based on CM's desire/inability to get HF to stop his involvement in the drugs.

Those family/friend claims certainly wouldn't really jive with the idea that CM was dealing/muling that evening, as being asserted by some here. And substantiating those ideas of her dealing/muling, by referring to words spoken by EA, who has lied about everything that night, seems flimsy at best to me.

So maybe CM was up to her eyeballs in drug dealing - or maybe all the ideas that she was using and/or dealing/muling are just fantasies and 180 degrees from accurate. Who knows?
 
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  • #729
Thinking LE singe was being sarcastic lol
Thanks GT. I looked up pics online and it is a very upscale place. It does have condominiums though for sale on the top floors so maybe they do have normal house keys. I couldnt tell if he was joking or being sarcastic. Lol
 
  • #730
Yeppers!
Holding out for the highest bidder!

Just to save y'all some money, my thanks button returns if I refresh the page F5 not $$ people :smile:
 
  • #731
All I know (and all I said) is that the family and or friends have said the "breakup" was based on CM's desire/inability to get HF to stop his involvement in the drugs.

Those claims wouldn't really jive with the idea that CM was dealing/muling that evening, as being asserted by some here. And substantiating those ideas with words spoken by EA, who has lied about everything that night, is flimsy at best.

So maybe CM was up to her eyeballs in drug dealing - or maybe all the ideas that she was using and/or dealing/muling are just fantasies and 180 degrees from accurate. Who knows?

Nobody - that's the point. People involved with drugs often lie; yes, even to family members.

Both EA and CM being, at the very least, on the edges of the drugs scene, as confirmed at this point by both the police investigating and the PI, I wouldn't take the words - or alleged words - of either of them as solid truth regarding drugs.

I think the only disagreement some have around here is the cleanliness of the whole affair. I don't think anyone involved the whole evening is clean. In my opinion, if any of them had a lick of conscience beyond where their next high was coming from - if the police and PI are to be believed about what they've discovered about this bunch - then I think someone would have already stepped forward with more helpful information.
 
  • #732
Yep, I sure agree with that statement. So which phone did HF hand over to LE? The one with all the good and clean messages, or the one that contained all his drug activity or any illegal activity? We know EA erased his phone, but if someone had posted a text about some good rock on my phone - I'd be deleting Shiite right and left. And if my no-good, drug-dealing BF wouldn't answer my phone calls even after I said I lost my freaking keys, I might borrow the person's phone I was walking with and text that no good lying SOB "how about some good rock" because I know that would get a response out of the prick.

agree
 
  • #733
Eh...several people have made comments here and on SM saying they remember him being creepy, strange, selfish. No links. Too far to dig. JMO

Yeah but we don't know who those people are, if they even knew him. I'd bet my right arm no one expected him to kidnap Christina.
 
  • #734
Long story short, the only reason I hired an attorney was because I DID SOMETHING WRONG!!! Innocent people do not need attorneys IMHO.

I think innocent people absolutely need an attorney, especially when they are being viewed as a suspect.

That having been said, years ago I voluntarily went alone for questioning to the police station over the death of a close friend. (I discovered the body, and knew nothing of why he was dead. I found out later that his head had internally exploded from ingesting an illegal drug.) I didn't realize it at the time, but later on realized I had been questioned in one of those rooms where they have the one-way glass to view the person answering questions, and wonder if they had been eying me and expecting me to say something criminally wrong. I dunno.
 
  • #735
Yeah but we don't know who those people are, if they even knew him. I'd bet my right arm no one expected him to kidnap Christina.

We don't know the girl who deemed him a perv on FB, or, the lady who said he leered at her as she drove past him. Yet, we choose to believe them.

And I have searched for THAT ^ alleged police report or something documenting the incident, to no avail.
 
  • #736
Lordy lord

People who randomly throw out "so and so" was weird in high school or something on a Facebook post or something don't mean jack diddly squat to me.
I can think of lots of weirdos at my school back then who weren't killers and lots of normal people who ended up doing weird stuff.

Rumors are just that imo.
 
  • #737
Lordy lord

People who randomly throw out "so and so" was weird in high school or something on a Facebook post of something don't mean jack diddly squat to me.
I can think of lots of weirdos at my school back then who weren't killers and lots of normal people who ended up doing weird stuff.

Rumors are just that imo.

Very true...except this one is facing the DP. :jail:
 
  • #738
Also....I would sit in jail for 99 years before I would give up someone who is capable of harming my family. Even, if I were completely innocent (which I don't believe EA is). IMO MOO JMO

i believe you 100%, but I somehow feel our buddy Enrique is not quit so altruistic.
 
  • #739
Nobody - that's the point. People involved with drugs often lie; yes, even to family members.

Both EA and CM being, at the very least, on the edges of the drugs scene, as confirmed at this point by both the police investigating and the PI, I wouldn't take the words - or alleged words - of either of them as solid truth regarding drugs.

We know HF was allegedly a drug dealer. We know CM was living with him. We know that LE witness believes all those there that night abuse Adderall. We know the family/friends claim CM was possibly bailing on EA due to EA's drug involvement.

Beyond that, we don't know.

And whether there was a lot, a little, or no drug abuse that night, we still end up with EA putting CM in his trunk (obvious not voluntarily, and not for her welfare), with her never being seen or heard from again. So drugs, or no drugs, leads to the same place.
 
  • #740
If I were that fearful that an individual or group could harm my family, I think I would want LE to know everything, and would ask their help in protecting me and my family. I guess that sort of thing happens if you're mixed up with the Aryn Brotherhood or a drug cartel - and if this involves a drug cartel, the feds have been making major busts. Seems like EA could be very useful to them if that were the case. Just thinking out loud here. MOO

I'm going to go ahead and rule out the aryn brotherhood ... lol!!
 
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