GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #34 *Arrest*

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  • #181
Did he hunt? Run? Play golf? It seems to me that if his movement cannot be tracked by technical means, that where he hid Christina might have more to do with him and his habits. Where would he feel comfortable going, especially at night?

This is one problem, no one knows him. Nothing has been obtained from social media, MSM, or VI's here so basically we know nothing except that he's a liar, a thief, a manager in a retail sprint store where two coworker said he "bullied" them at one point. (http://starlocalmedia.com/allenamer...e7a-661b-11e4-908d-8b1d2710f0e3.html?mode=jqm)

We know so little about him but yet we're trying to make up elaborate theories as to what he might have been thinking or what he/they did that night or where he went. It's futile at best to go down this route. :tantrum:
 
  • #182
Did he hunt? Run? Play golf? It seems to me that if his movement cannot be tracked by technical means, that where he hid Christina might have more to do with him and his habits. Where would he feel comfortable going, especially at night?
Reading his social media was pretty bland as I recall. Nothing stood out as a hobby or habit. Would love to know how he spent his spare time since he wasn't spending it with his GF out and about. ;)
 
  • #183
Ok, is a puppy a puppy or something else? Don't do this to me, folks! Craving peach pie is one thing, but I literally just recovered from puppy fever and it got pretty dangerous there for awhile :)

The post that started it is post #102 on page 5, and the original culprit was Lcr143. I confess to being an accessory after the fact. I hereby swear off the puppy metaphor. (I don't want it to become an addiction.)
 
  • #184
And I don't get why she'd even want adderal IF there were other drugs had? I'm not especially familiar with the effects of adderal but seems to me that would be like taking a sip of beer after a couple shots of liquor.
Possibly to stay awake? Other drugs can very well provide that effect hence the afterhours party goers. IMO
 
  • #185
I kept remembering that Somer Thompson was found in a landfill. This is a great article about how they trailed the garbage trucks and found her so quickly… even before they had any suspects. Of course 7 year old Somer's investigation had the advantage of her getting missed within minutes of not arriving home from school. Christina was not reported missing for 4 days :notgood:

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/33427528/...e-trucks-lead-body-missing-girl/#.VMMmNkdOKrU


ORANGE PARK, Fla. — After 7-year-old Somer Thompson vanished on her way home from school, investigators tailed nine garbage trucks from her neighborhood to a Georgia landfill nearly 50 miles away, then methodically picked through the trash as each rig spilled its load.
 
  • #186
Evidently, her BF was dealing Molly (or whatever) in quantity. If she did take some "party favors" to friends that night...maybe no one really knew how much Molly or other drugs she had on her. She lost her keys a couple of times (then again who really knows?!). Did it happen while someone was searching through her things looking for her supposed stash and they tossed them aside?

Motive is a huge question mark at this point, but with the timing of the last text from EA to HF requesting good rock (molly/ethylone/coke/crack?)...it seems like the drugs (definitely not adderall) could certainly be the catalyst for abduction and murder. EA wanted them and CM was his ticket to them.

It might well be that drugs are the motive. They certainly feature in this case, though I'm not sure how prominently. I don't discount the drug angle, but I can't subscribe wholeheartedly to it being the motive to murder Christina. To me, first and foremost, EA is creepy, as in makes my skin crawl, like a primal fear. For that reason, I suspect SA. Secondly, imo only, I can't imagine CM carrying a large enough quantity on her person, or in her possession, to a party where everyone will be out and about to various bars, etc. until all hours of the night.........a large enough quantity/quality for someone to want to kill for them. Doesn't resonate with me, but I am out of that particular drug/club scene loop, granted. Accidental death due to drugs I've considered but not embraced. I certainly could be wrong on this call, and the timing of the "rock" text is perplexing, I agree, but I believe EA is a predator. Every time I watch that video of them walking to the garage the hairs on my arm and neck stand up. I think he pounced. Moo, etc.
 
  • #187
Steve I never said they didn't talk to LE but they sure were not very vocal.
I don't want to argue with ya LOL but the ppl with her that night and morning IMO know
what went down. And id bet my last dollar it all involves drugs!

If u go back and read earlier threads Its discussed often how silent the friends became.

It is true that they said that and at times with IMO unnecessary levels of vitriol, but AFAIR they always qualified it with saying they did not think they were involved in the disappearance, just they might not have been as forthcoming as the could of because they were trying to hide their drug use.
 
  • #188
I think it is possible that all of the above could have entered into EA's taking Christina. Is the discussion about drugs actually a way of making this whole thing a bit more conspiratorial? Simple and straightforward is often rather ho hum, and we do not really like to think that people lose their lives for someone else's cheap thrills. Sometimes we like to create scenarios in our heads to entertain ourselves. I would ask this: Is there any evidence that EA ever worked for a drug operation?

this is brilliant i couldn't possibly agree more. a

Also these guys are some knuckle heads that had all been caught doing various things in the past (and one of them in the future). These aren't KGB agents if there was some type of conspiracy going on it would be obvious to LE. And I answer one question in advance anyone who thinks their communitcations are untraceble because they are using snapchat or kik or whatever is being silly.
 
  • #189
If the forensic computer specialist finds he visited Google or any other mapping site near the time of her disappearance, they will find out exactly where he was interested in scoping out. I don't think EA was savvy enough to clear his computer of history and things like he was the phone. He only cleared it because he had to return it, imo.

He wasn't savvy enough to recognize about the pings from both phones earlier so why would that change later in the night?

I think he might have been smart enough to know to clear the computer, BUT I think he *really* didn't think they would ever look into him that deeply. I don't know if he was just dumb, or in denial or what, but he really seemed to think everyone was just gonna believe they parted ways and he had no idea what happened.
 
  • #190
I think in MOO that the drug of choice that night was adderall. My question to the younger crowd:
Is it common to take both adderall and either molly(x)/or coke on the same night? I ask because that seems too much for your cardiovascular system to handle.
 
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Did he hunt? Run? Play golf? It seems to me that if his movement cannot be tracked by technical means, that where he hid Christina might have more to do with him and his habits. Where would he feel comfortable going, especially at night?

He liked to party/go out and brag about it according to co-workers! Not very helpful info to search from, tho.
 
  • #193
She (Det Stamm) did NOT say she "believed" CM had been given drugs to use, deal, or carry. She only said it was possible (could have been) without offering an opinion. You don't know what she believed, and saying she said her beliefs is simply not stating the truth.

Questions in court are asked precisely, because nuances matter. Obviously the defense didn't want Stamm to say what she believed, only to state what was possible, and that's why it was asked that way.

thank you!!!
 
  • #194
He liked to party/go out and brag about it according to co-workers! Not very helpful info to search from, tho.
I remember the co-workers saying that. But I am almost convinced he made some of the party-life stories up. Maybe spent the evening with a close friend or playing x box or whatever, then fabricated a wild story to brag about. MOO. Just something about him (mostly that he lies and lies and lies) strikes me as the type to do that.
 
  • #195
IF I remember right...
The whole idea that EA may be the one who did this to Christina came about because he wasn't helping out look for her either....hmmmm

Guess we will find out!
Just common sense if your friend disappears and you were with them that night you'd wanna help. Jmo

the idea of EA being involved came about because he was caught blatantly lying straight out the gate on September 3rd to the cops him not helping blah blah might be the public story told before the fact that he was lying to LE was released. Don't get it twisted.
 
  • #196
I agree that its frustrating for the family and friends of CM and us sleuths that the party people remained silent. and did not help in searches... that really sucks. But, just as with HF... does it really matter what they say to US and the family if they are cooperating with LE and their story has checked out with LE? so far, LE hasn't given any indication that are holding back, and of course I have no idea if this is true. I do think that in time, we will have evidence from LE as to whether EA us motivated by drugs, SA or just plain evil.

agree with this
 
  • #197
Ok to me this girls night out thing was something more then a girls night out. OK this is MVOO...
Why was EA even there?
SN?
Ea obviously knew HF sold drugs. RE his rock text. Other ppl spoke to CM that early morning on her walk now what they called her about we don't know we do know EA wanted rock because stupid sent a text.

No one is disputing that EA did it...
but I feel the reason was he figured she had some on her and wanted it.
He fought her for it.

MOO

of course if EA even made that text ..... and we are leaving out there part about them having no proof of prior contact ... again these people aren't kgb agents ... they didn't have the secrets to evading LE and have the records to prove it. But people are free to think whatever they like i'm sure it will all come out one day.
 
  • #198
Have a link for that as I do not recall anyone saying they "all" showed up to search for Christina?

he said it came from the discovery id show that should be good enough using google anyone can find that.
 
  • #199
This is one problem, no one knows him. Nothing has been obtained from social media, MSM, or VI's here so basically we know nothing except that he's a liar, a thief, a manager in a retail sprint store where two coworker said he "bullied" them at one point. (http://starlocalmedia.com/allenamer...e7a-661b-11e4-908d-8b1d2710f0e3.html?mode=jqm)

We know so little about him but yet we're trying to make up elaborate theories as to what he might have been thinking or what he/they did that night or where he went. It's futile at best to go down this route. :tantrum:

i wonder about this too we seemingly know nothing about him and no one has come forward and said they used to hang out with him or whatever.
 
  • #200
She (Det Stamm) did NOT say she "believed" CM had been given drugs to use, deal, or carry. She only said it was possible (could have been) without offering an opinion. You don't know what she believed, and saying she said her beliefs is simply not stating the truth.

Questions in court are asked precisely, because nuances matter. Obviously the defense didn't want Stamm to say what she believed, only to state what was possible, and that's why it was asked that way.
BF was reporting it live from the hearing and she used the word, "believes". I will choose to believe what she tweeted was accurate. It sounds more to me like the detective did not want to confirm it, but to outright deny it would have been a problem for LE. Time will definitely tell, but I don't know why it is so difficult to comprehend with it being spelled out. Being able to read between the lines is important with LE.

Brittany Feagans
BF@_StarNews

Stamm believes #ChristinaMorris could have been given drugs by Hunter Foster, doesn't know about using them

https://mobile.twitter.com/BF_StarNews/status/555762651268009984
 
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