GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #34 *Arrest*

[Happyshoes]

Very quiet this weekend! In regards to your post, could he have thought of some place he could go to that caused him to turn around and go back towards the Shops? Maybe he was headed toward home in his panic?

 

[Faithx2]

Where did you see the info?

Jonni's fb page. On her letter to Christina this morning someone asked and she responded to them.

 

[MIKAYOYO]

It is quiet in here today or I am just not getting notifications? I forget the rules about linking to SM but I read something today that is very encouraging. Possibly other women have come forward and speaking up about encounters with EA. LE and the family have been following up and are on it.

I posted my thoughts and speculations about his girlfriend (ex whatever the status) shedding some light on places they would go to be alone. I thought if he had certain places he would take his girlfriend to have sex most likely if this was a SA he would have taken Christina to the same place. You know familiarity. Hasnt been caught before. Secluded. A place he knows not much traffic and has done it before and not been caught. I really hadnt thought too much about other girls until today. I hope it leads somewhere. IMO JMO just my speculating.

Where is everyone? Most importantly where is Christina???

IMO, JMO

I'm sure I'm about to get pounced but I just can't put a lot of weight into people who come out "after the fact." Sorry. MOO

Not saying it didn't happen so don't go there. MOO

ETA: Not anything specific to you, Faith. Just jumping from your post...

 

[Faithx2]

IMO, JMO

I'm sure I'm about to get pounced but I just can't put a lot of weight into people who come out "after the fact." Sorry. MOO

Not saying it didn't happen so don't go there. MOO

ETA: Not anything specific to you, Faith. Just jumping from your post...

None taken at all. No need be pounced on for having your opinion. I agree sometimes people come forward after the fact when they should have said something when/if it happened.

Like his girlfriend. Why didnt she come forward with her phone and text messages right away? JMO

 

[LibbyinTexas]

I kept remembering that Somer Thompson was found in a landfill. This is a great article about how they trailed the garbage trucks and found her so quickly… even before they had any suspects. Of course 7 year old Somer's investigation had the advantage of her getting missed within minutes of not arriving home from school. Christina was not reported missing for 4 days :notgood:

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/33427528/...e-trucks-lead-body-missing-girl/#.VMMmNkdOKrU

Right and 5 months later trying to find anything in a landfill..... but I did find out that ALL of the dumpsters and even personal trash in Collin County goes to one landfill in Melissa.

 

[daisytrail]

IMO, JMO

I'm sure I'm about to get pounced but I just can't put a lot of weight into people who come out "after the fact." Sorry. MOO

Not saying it didn't happen so don't go there. MOO

ETA: Not anything specific to you, Faith. Just jumping from your post...

Women who have been assaulted often to not go to the police. In fact, to be precise, many rapes go unreported entirely and close calls? People may talk about close calls but they definitely do not go to the police. Not to be shocking, but there is a whole universe of people who do not follow any kind of news at all. Even a supermodel felt intimidated about talking about her close call with a popular male comedian.

ETA: Adding for specificity: What I mean is that there may be women who have had unpleasant (or worse!) contact with EA who didn't ever connect him with the much publicized missing person's report.

 

[MIKAYOYO]

Women who have been assaulted often to not go to the police. In fact, to be precise, many rapes go unreported entirely and close calls? People may talk about close calls but they definitely do not go to the police. Not to be shocking, but there is a whole universe of people who do not follow any kind of news at all. Even a supermodel felt intimidated about talking about her close call with a popular male comedian.

I understand that, but IMO it is irrelevant to this case. It's always so unfortunate when someone is arrested/accused and then all these people come out of the woodwork. Sad, especially since statute of limitation have obviously passed. MOO

 

[MIKAYOYO]

None taken at all. No need be pounced on for having your opinion. I agree sometimes people come forward after the fact when they should have said something when/if it happened.

Like his girlfriend. Why didnt she come forward with her phone and text messages right away? JMO

Exactly!

 

[daisytrail]

Hmm. Statute of limitations is not as long as it ought to be but it is not so incredibly short either. If the motive was SA, well these guys sometimes start practicing early. I think the idea is to get a sense of his habits to try to figure out where he might have taken Christina.

 

[LibbyinTexas]

I still believe CM used EA's phone to try and contact HF. She was desperate to speak to him. She was really trying to get in touch with him, and he was ignoring her. I really think she perhaps asked EA to use his phone and tried to text and call HF as perhaps he would answer from an unkown number, or if was about drugs.

I was once a 23 year old girl with a horrible boyfriend, and tried all the tricks in the book!

There is just so many 'what if's' in this case.

We don't know that this wasn't the phone that HF was used to getting his drug messages and doing his dirty business through.

I totally think so too. I think she asked him to text HF to try and get a response from him. If HF would answer EA then she would know he was receiving her texts as well and just not responding. If this is true, we know in that minute she was still alive and possibly sitting in EA's car texting for the good rock.

 

[daisytrail]

I understand that, but IMO it is irrelevant to this case. It's always so unfortunate when someone is arrested/accused and then all these people come out of the woodwork. Sad, especially since statute of limitation have obviously passed. MOO

It's 10 years for most offenses.

http://www.sexlaws.org/answer_board_question-statute_of_limitations_sexual_offenses_texas

 

[MIKAYOYO]

It's 10 years for most offenses.

http://www.sexlaws.org/answer_board_question-statute_of_limitations_sexual_offenses_texas

True, but if nothing was ever reported initially, IMO, it's just taking up resources now to chase it. And leering at someone, IMO, does not show where he took Christina. MOO

 

[daisytrail]

True, but if nothing was ever reported initially, IMO, it's just taking up resources now to chase it. And leering at someone, IMO, does not show where he took Christina. MOO

I don't think that I am being clear: 1. We need to know where Christina is and we know nothing of EA's habits. 2. Might he have taken another woman to where he actually left Christina? If so, it might be useful information to have. With the charges EA is currently facing, I don't think anyone would want to prosecute him on an old rape. 3. Beyond the crime itself, finding her body might bring some measure of peace to Christina's family.

 

[MIKAYOYO]

I don't think that I am being clear: 1. We need to know where Christina is and we know nothing of EA's habits. 2. Might he have taken another woman to where he actually left Christina? If so, it might be useful information to have. With the charges EA is currently facing, I don't think anyone would want to prosecute him on an old rape. 3. Beyond the crime itself, finding her body might bring some measure of peace to Christina's family.

Oh yes, of course finding her is the most important thing to bring closure. I don't argue that. No family should have to wonder where their loved one is, if they're not home safe. IMO, I don't see him as a serial predator, raping and pillaging the women of Plano. And so accusations coming out after the fact (unless PPD was made aware of at the time with details) are just a goose chase. IMO MOO

 

[Woe.be.gone]

My problem with sorting the who used whose phone when is, Jonni stated earlier, Christina used EA's phone three times to send two texts and make one call.
Until we found out the nature of one of the texts, we were all expected to believe CM had definitely borrowed EA's phone (people suggested two reasons; low battery and trying to force a response from HF).
iirc, JMOM confirmed that Jonni knew Christina used EA's phone.
At the earlier time, the disconnect I had in believing CM ever used EA phone, was we had already been informed CM, using her own phone, sent the text (leave door unlocked) AFTER EA's phone was used to contact HF.
Why use EA's phone then at all?
The response was; battery running low, power cord lost, or trying to trick HF into answering.
It was important for some people to believe CM used EA's phone until they knew the content of the message.
Still, we're not privy to the content of the second text or the voice mail message (said to be CM's voice).

Now, EA used EA's phone to contact HF. Case closed. Says who?

As far as the tweet suggesting CM may have received drugs from HF to bring to the party, but it is unknown if CM did any of those exact drugs herself, stems from the text to HF sent from EA's phone asking for more good rock.
Stamm probably considers the text, asking for more good rock, a clue that good rock already had been consumed earlier during the party.
And, considering EA and CM were together, Stamm believes the source of the good rock was probably HF.
Stamm didn't want to get into specifics at the hearing but the content of the text infers HF may have provided rock earlier.
It is a logical assumption imo.
Why is this notion difficult to consider, just to leave the idea open until we know more?
Makes a lot of sense to me.

I guess what I'm asking is, unless people are positive something is a fact, don't keep pushing everyone to believe whatever (like that CM for sure, 100 percent, used EA's phone).
Because, now I have trouble reversing in my own mind what people wanted me to believe!
And I'm still uncertain if CM used EA's phone or if she did not. And, in the first place, I believed she probably did not!
Now, I believe she may have but, the same people who insisted she did, want me to believe she did not!

 

[MIKAYOYO]

My problem with sorting the who used whose phone when is, Jonni stated earlier, Christina used EA's phone three times to send two texts and make one call.
Until we found out the nature of one of the texts, we were all expected to believe CM had definitely borrowed EA's phone (people suggested two reasons; low battery and trying to force a response from HF).
iirc, JMOM confirmed that Jonni knew Christina used EA's phone.
At the earlier time, the disconnect I had in believing CM ever used EA phone, was we had already been informed CM, using her own phone, sent the text (leave door unlocked) AFTER EA's phone was used to contact HF.
Why use EA's phone then at all?
The response was; battery running low, power cord lost, or trying to trick HF into answering.
It was important for some people to believe CM used EA's phone until they knew the content of the message.
Still, we're not privy to the content of the second text or the voice mail message (said to be CM's voice).

Now, EA used EA's phone to contact HF. Case closed. Says who?

As far as the tweet suggesting CM may have received drugs from HF to bring to the party, but it is unknown if CM did any of those exact drugs herself, stems from the text to HF sent from EA's phone asking for more good rock.
Stamm probably considers the text, asking for more good rock, a clue that good rock already had been consumed earlier during the party.
And, considering EA and CM were together, Stamm believes the source of the good rock was probably HF.
Stamm didn't want to get into specifics at the hearing but the content of the text infers HF may have provided rock earlier.
It is a logical assumption imo.
Why is this notion difficult to consider, just to leave the idea open until we know more?
Makes a lot of sense to me.

I guess what I'm asking is, unless people are positive something is a fact, don't keep pushing everyone to believe whatever (like that CM for sure, 100 percent, used EA's phone).
Because, now I have trouble reversing in my own mind what people wanted me to believe!
And I'm still uncertain if CM used EA's phone or if she did not. And, in the first place, I believed she probably did not!
Now, I believe she may have but, the same people who insisted she did, want me to believe she did not!

We are to believe whatever is convenient to get our point across. MOO

 

[Le Singe]

At the earlier time, the disconnect I had in believing CM ever used EA phone, was we had already been informed CM, using her own phone, sent the text (leave door unlocked) AFTER EA's phone was used to contact HF.
Why use EA's phone then at all?
The response was; battery running low, power cord lost, or trying to trick HF into answering.

the bolded was only reported by uptown dallas girl and per the hearing it is a false statement.

http://starlocalmedia.com/allenamerican/news/from-the-courtroom-arochi-probable-cause-hearing-notes/article_14dd4862-9de4-11e4-b48e-5765cf2b7e65.html

The last record of Morris’ phone being used was at 3:45 a.m. on Aug. 30. There had been several calls and texts earlier in the evening/morning to Foster, Petrosky, Nickerson and Logan Prendergast, her ex-boyfriend.

 

[Le Singe]

Hmm. Statute of limitations is not as long as it ought to be but it is not so incredibly short either. If the motive was SA, well these guys sometimes start practicing early. I think the idea is to get a sense of his habits to try to figure out where he might have taken Christina.

agree

1. would give a place we knew he was comfortable which would be a good place to search.
2. Would further explain his motivation because it would show that he had been building to this.

 

[MIKAYOYO]

I don't remember, hence the consider it rumor. It was shortly after the hearing though.

 

[MIKAYOYO]

agree

1. would give a place we knew he was comfortable which would be a good place to search.
2. Would further explain his motivation because it would show that he had been building to this.

But are there reported incidences of this happening? Reported to PPD. And did it happen where he took a victim to a specific spot? If not, then it's irrelevent, IMO.