GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #36 *Arrest*

[Eileen730]

I hope they feel distraught enough to encourage EA to do the right thing. Due to TOS restrictions, I can't elaborate, but it is my opinion that JM has made this choice based on actions she has observed or been informed of in relation to EA's family.

he has Lawyered up!
He is not a child here.

NO matter what his parents say to do ...... He has to listen to his lawyer.
Hi parents are not at liberty so say anything. As I see it this is totally out of their control.

JMO

 

[Eileen730]

this has nothing at all to do with how his parents feel.
Its what they are told to do.
What if EA wont listen to them and insists he is Innocent.
why should that be the parents fault?
Even f they have encouraged him to tell the truth and he tells them MOM DAD I didn't do anything to her~!
what can they do?

I mean really!
Its not their fault!
Its their sons fault.

 

[Eileen730]

I hope they feel distraught enough to encourage EA to do the right thing. Due to TOS restrictions, I can't elaborate, but it is my opinion that JM has made this choice based on actions she has observed or been informed of in relation to EA's family.

Sorry!
I do not feel the parents or their home should be picketed.

We do not see this in other cases and every Murderer has a Mom and dad.

 

[suzyjackson]

he has Lawyered up!
He is not a child here.

NO matter what his parents say to do ...... He has to listen to his lawyer.
Hi parents are not at liberty so say anything. As I see it this is totally out of their control.

JMO

Why can't his parents say anything? I would have thought they would be free to say whatever they want to him and also that he is free to say what he wants. Does the US system not allow him to make any decisions once he has a lawyer, in England anyone can plead however they like regardless of what their lawyer advises as far as I know and I beleive they can voice whatever they want to (I accept I'm not at all knowledgeable about US ways)

 

[Doj1234]

Sorry!
I do not feel the parents or their home should be picketed.

We do not see this in other cases and every Murderer has a Mom and dad.

I agree, it may be counter-productive at this stage. EA has demonstrated that he's not the brightest bulb and much of the evidence against him is from his own mouth. If he hasn't spoken yet about CM's location, it seems unlikely that he will speak now. It seems to me that he now has a good attorney and if the attorney is telling him to not speak, then he won't speak. I don't know much about EA's parents, but they too would likely be well served to be quiet. Is that fair? Hell no, but it is their likely actions. So, IMO the Arochi family in general <Mod Snip>, but I don't see much benefit to picket now except maybe it makes people feel better to make the Arochi family life as miserable as possible. While I respect many of JM's actions and understand the thought that she refuses to sit on her hands and do nothing, the benefit of continued pickets seems very limited.

 

[daisytrail]

this has nothing at all to do with how his parents feel.
Its what they are told to do.
What if EA wont listen to them and insists he is Innocent.
why should that be the parents fault?
Even f they have encouraged him to tell the truth and he tells them MOM DAD I didn't do anything to her~!
what can they do?

I mean really!
Its not their fault!
Its their sons fault.

Actually, he does not have to listen to his lawyer. Ultimately, decisions he makes on his case will be his unless the court decides that he is incapable of assisting in his own defense. As to who might be at fault, while we may believe EA is a fault for the AK, if anyone assisted him in covering up the crime, that person would also be at fault. Even knowledge of anything out of order (however slight) that indicated he did the crime, should not be withheld from LE. That would not only be illegal. It would be immoral. However, I believe it has been stated often in these threads, and supported by MSM links, that those picketing have a motive to get EA's family to encourage him to tell what he did with Christina. Whether that is a strategy that will work or not, we have no way of knowing. If I had to weigh being unkind against knowing what had happened to my child, I would be unkind.

 

[cluciano63]

I have seen plenty of cases where a husband kills a wife, and will never admit it, even allowing his children to become estranged and enemies, if some think he did it and others don't. Imo, most killers are extremely selfish and will ignore everything and everyone else in order to hope to avoid punishment, or obtain a retrial, etc...not counting on EA to be any different.

 

[heather.scissorhands]

I don't know what to say about the picketing. My biggest fear is it shuts him up even more. I think he's scared. And now he's probably even more scared. And I think his reaction to fear is lying. So, I'm not sure if the protests can work.

But, if I was Christina's family, I seriously don't know what I would do. It's so complex, I think it's hard for most of us to relate.

I want to know more about HF drug trial. Mainly, because I'm nosy. And I do think it relates to her state of mind. Whatever info we can get from his trial says a lot about what was going on in her life the month se went missing. It seems like valuable information to me.

I knew that the remains in Greenville weren't hers, but not immediately. I felt relief at first. It's time. She wants to be found. Her family needs to know. This is so heartbreaking. I constantly meditate on her being found. I'm tired. I can't imagine how Jonni even gets out of bed in the morning. She may be wrong (with the protesting) but daaaaang she is ballsy and strong. I want her to know what happened. I'm so scared she will never know.

Talk about time to step away from this case.... I can't. Christina deserves to have at least a few people who won't stop questioning and who keeps this alive. I certainly would be sad to see this turn into a cold case. Or just another unsolved case stuck in limbo at the bottom of this forum.

 

[Z&BsMommy]

#Can'tStop #Won'tStop


#ComeHomeChristina

 

[SteveS]

We can debate "what will be sure to work," but the fact is, anyone who claims to know how EA will respond, if confronted by his parents, is wrong. None of us can truly know how another is going to act or think, until they do. And this defendant is not the same as every other defendant, nor is this situation normal or frequent, to be able to say we know what "always" happens. He has been caught with damning evidence that he abducted, but the abducted girl is missing. He lives at home with his parents, so they may indeed hold an extra amount of influence over him and his choices.

But imo there's a bigger question here. What is justice, and how should the Arochi's seek it? The parents know Enrique has been lying to them, as well as to everyone else - so, it's up to them, do they want to know the truth, and do the right thing to help the Morris family find Christina, or not? Is it "justice" for them to try to enhance EA's ability to get away with what he did (ie, don't ask, don't tell, look the other way, and don't do anything that could harm his legal case), or is it justice to try to lessen harm and do right by the Morris family?

I think we get so focused on the details that we lose sight of the bigger picture, and while the Arochi parents are not morally responsible for what EA did, they are indeed morally responsible for whether they are truly seeking and aiding true justice. And imo the protests are probably a needful reminder to them of that bothersome truth. ("If you really truly regret what your son did to their daughter, do what you can to try to help them, Mr and Mrs Arochi.")

 

[Eileen730]

Actually, he does not have to listen to his lawyer. Ultimately, decisions he makes on his case will be his unless the court decides that he is incapable of assisting in his own defense. As to who might be at fault, while we may believe EA is a fault for the AK, if anyone assisted him in covering up the crime, that person would also be at fault. Even knowledge of anything out of order (however slight) that indicated he did the crime, should not be withheld from LE. That would not only be illegal. It would be immoral. However, I believe it has been stated often in these threads, and supported by MSM links, that those picketing have a motive to get EA's family to encourage him to tell what he did with Christina. Whether that is a strategy that will work or not, we have no way of knowing. If I had to weigh being unkind against knowing what had happened to my child, I would be unkind.

When Your In trouble You listen to your Lawyer!


And yes when your daughter is missing and u want to know what happened to her you go to any lengths to find out.
but I don't feel they need to stand outside his home when hes not even there!

Like I said Go to the ppl that might hold the answers!
EA
Lawyers
LE

JMO

 

[Eileen730]

Actually, he does not have to listen to his lawyer. Ultimately, decisions he makes on his case will be his unless the court decides that he is incapable of assisting in his own defense. As to who might be at fault, while we may believe EA is a fault for the AK, if anyone assisted him in covering up the crime, that person would also be at fault. Even knowledge of anything out of order (however slight) that indicated he did the crime, should not be withheld from LE. That would not only be illegal. It would be immoral. However, I believe it has been stated often in these threads, and supported by MSM links, that those picketing have a motive to get EA's family to encourage him to tell what he did with Christina. Whether that is a strategy that will work or not, we have no way of knowing. If I had to weigh being unkind against knowing what had happened to my child, I would be unkind.

Remember Casey Anthony talking to her parents at the jail.
she never came clean!
Most don't and wont.
No matter if they demonstrate at the jail or his house

 

[Momoffourboys]

For all we know, EA's parents have been begging him to tell the truth, or, are convinced that he has told all he knows.

 

[SeeAlice]

I'm not aware of a case where this tactic has been employed, much less succeeded in getting a confession.

If LE believed such pleas would work, would they allow or encourage the mother to speak to the suspect's parents face-to-face inside the police station? Or is this more about publicly shaming them in hopes of getting some kind of confession?

I'm not familiar with anyone trying this approach, so it's all JMO.

 

[Eileen730]

Why should the Arochis talk to her Parents?

 

[Eileen730]

their Moral Responsibility?

 

[SeeAlice]

JMO - CM's mom has the right to protest and say anything she wants to. If doing so assuages her grief, then she's free to do it, but it won't bring her daughter back and is unlikely to force a confession or even a guilty conscience, IMO.

Public sympathy can be fickle, especially among the locals there. That includes potential jury members. I doubt Plano PD condones it or appreciates it. Stop and think about what a defense attorney can do with it.

JMO

btw - are CM's party pals assisting in the searches or rallying with the family?

 

[SteveS]

Why should the Arochis talk to her Parents?

You don't think they have a moral responsibility to care about justice, for Christina (who has been abducted and perhaps murdered) and her parents (who are grieving and trying to find out what happened)?

I think they do. Justice that only cares about "me" and "mine" isn't true justice imo.

 

[Sweetgrits]

I agree, it may be counter-productive at this stage. EA has demonstrated that he's not the brightest bulb and much of the evidence against him is from his own mouth. If he hasn't spoken yet about CM's location, it seems unlikely that he will speak now. It seems to me that he now has a good attorney and if the attorney is telling him to not speak, then he won't speak. I don't know much about EA's parents, but they too would likely be well served to be quiet. Is that fair? Hell no, but it is their likely actions. So, IMO the Arochi family in general <Mod Snip> but I don't see much benefit to picket now except maybe it makes people feel better to make the Arochi family life as miserable as possible. While I respect many of JM's actions and understand the thought that she refuses to sit on her hands and do nothing, the benefit of continued pickets seems very limited.

Respectfully, why include the entire family in your opinion? As far as we know now, Enrique Arochi is the only person being charged with any crime against CM. His parents were out of town and his brother was at home asleep so none of them played a role in Christina&#8217;s disappearance but you believe they also &#8220;suck &#8221;? Unless I missed it, I haven&#8217;t read anything that indicates EA&#8217;s parents or his brother are involved with drugs or that Enrique was ever neglected or abused. JMO, but I believe that the Arochis have done what the majority of parents do every day, the best they can.
I believe that EA&#8217;s mother and father have asked him if he kidnapped and killed Christina Morris and I believe that he denied it. But they&#8217;re reading and hearing the same evidence we are so whether or not they admit it out loud deep down they know he&#8217;s guilty. They likely know that with all the evidence LE has their son is likely to spend the rest of his life behind bars or if Christina&#8217;s body is found maybe even the DP. Maybe they have asked their son to tell JM where her daughter is but if he&#8217;s denying he has anything to do with it what can they do? I&#8217;m sure the attorney has advised all of them not to say anything and against all odds they hope this attorney can some how keep their child from receiving a lethal injection.
IMO we&#8217;re all frustrated and we all want Christina to be found and returned to her family. I pray for JM and AM every night and I can&#8217;t even imagine what hell they are going through. I don&#8217;t have any problem with picketing in front of the Arochi home but I don&#8217;t think it will change anything. IMO it will just be more frustration heaped on. But bottom line, Enrique Arochi&#8217;s parents cannot do anything to change what&#8217;s happened to CM and they likely can&#8217;t do anything to make EA tell where he left her. They are not to blame and IMO we should cut them some slack.

 

[imamaze]

But his parents are not the ones to harm Christina!
Picket the Jail
Picket his Lawyers!
Picket the Sheriffs office.

Not his family!
How do u think they actually feel fearing their son (possibly) MURDERED a young woman!

This is just my opinion as a member and not an Admin...

Eileen, I agree with everything you said here. Picketing EA's family is not going to help Christina's family find her. I don't believe EA's family have anything to do with this, not even to protect their son. He isn't admitting anything to them any more than he is LE. IMO EA is the only one that knows where Christina is. He certainly isn't going to admit anything to his family.

Ima