GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #36 *Arrest*

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  • #81
JMO~
Why in the world is there any reason to try to persuade or cause doubt about the Duke Law Review Journal? It seems to me that all free men and women can formulate their own opinion with regards to various forms of legal guidelines -case law and information available. Even if it is a content information piece or a 239yr old historical document that sets the floor & ceilings on the framework of our life,liberty and rights to all.

The Morris family can protest & picket all they want in the general public marketplace for all I care.
But to invade a single residence and target The Family of the accused is crossing the line again and again.
The picketers have had more than "Fair Opportunity" to get their message & grievances heard since Oct 2014.
via live picketing,Social Media,Broadcasted News Outlets,Print Publications and Billboards.
It is unfortunate that the demands and questions have unreasonable expectations for answers that are simply not there in October 2014 nor are they able to answer the same redundant and obtrusive questions in February 2015.

1st Amendment has limits and duty.
Sorry folks ..but Right to Assemble & Protest in a residential area with sole intent directed repeatedly at 1 private home is NOT legal. It actually is an actionable cause when the sole objective and purpose continued over and over to intimidate -harass and cause Infliction of Emotional Distress.

I am not for ANY Home Picketing or Invasion of Privacy - I was against it in 2014 and still stand opposed.
Just as I would not be for any one picketing the Morris home if roles were reversed.

tym, I appreciate your passion for websleuth cases. However: If the picketing is illegal, please post statute.

If the picketing is actionable, action probably would have been taken. Right?

If my child were missing, and I knew who was responsible, you can bet I would be doing everything legally within my power to do to get answers. And honestly, I probably would do whatever I thought I needed to do, legal or not, to find my child. However, since the law has not stopped the picketing, I'm assuming it is not illegal for the Morris camp to picket.

We do not know if the picketing will help, or hinder. So I cannot fault the Morris' for trying it, because it just might have some positive results for them.

As to the assertion the Morris' should be looking for Christina instead of picketing--puleese. How many cases do we know about where the missing are missing for umpteen years? Decades? Even with ping info, etc., a body is just too easy to either hide or dispose of, so if you can get the perpetrator to tell where she was taken out of the trunk of his car, perhaps that time is reduced to days, weeks, or months, instead.

Some people probably don't want to search, perhaps couldn't bear coming across remains. But they can picket, and so the family of a missing person utilizes the resources available to them.

I, for one, will not, at this time, fault the Morris' for doing any legal activity that would help them locate Christina.
 
  • #82
No offense meant to you, but I hate that this slogan has been chosen for Christina, because it's lyrics to a song Miley Cyrus did that is about using Molly and partying. I'm sure the people who started using it have no idea or they wouldn't have used it!
To be fair, there are plenty of songs with the same lyrics that came out way before Miley, and "Can't stop, won't stop" seems to pretty accurately describe Christina's family's attitude. I guess we've officially ran out of things to talk about when we start nitpicking the phrase "Can't stop, won't stop"
 
  • #83
The time and energy wasted on picketing could be used to look for Christina. She isn't home yet and that should be everyone's first priority. Standing on a sidewalk waving signs and chanting whatever is not bringing her home. His parents are not going to bring her home. EA is not going to bring her home. The people who can bring her home are the ones holding the signs. Be productive. Be Christina's heros who lead the charge searching for Christina.

These people have literally searched day in & day out for nearly half a year. Christina is most definitely the 1st priority, to say anything otherwise is absurd. Not everyone can physically search (take Christina's elderly grandparents as an example -who I've seen in photos outside the jail in the freezing cold)

They aren't chanting anything. They are silently and peacefully holding up signs that ask for answers. This is hardly the most offensive part of this case, IMO.
 
  • #84
To be fair, there are plenty of songs with the same lyrics that came out way before Miley, and "Can't stop, won't stop" seems to pretty accurately describe Christina's family's attitude. I guess we've officially ran out of things to talk about when we start nitpicking the phrase "Can't stop, won't stop"

Maybe if you read the lyrics to this particular song you'll understand why it bothers me.

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/mileycyrus/wecantstop.html
 
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These people have literally searched day in & day out for nearly half a year. Christina is most definitely the 1st priority, to say anything otherwise is absurd. Not everyone can physically search (take Christina's elderly grandparents as an example -who I've seen in photos outside the jail in the freezing cold)

They aren't chanting anything. They are silently and peacefully holding up signs that ask for answers. This is hardly the most offensive part of this case, IMO.
This is an unusual way to go about finding a missing person. People liken it to what happened in Caylee's case and it is a troubling comparison. The drama and ridiculous display did nothing to find Caylee.

I haven't heard of that many searches for Christina, but maybe you are right. People don't stop searching after 6 months. People don't stop searching after a year. In Lindsey Baum's case, people are still going out searching as a group 5 years later.

Perhaps people could hold a drive to raise the reward for information and the physically limited could man the phones or they could use the time to come up with fresh ideas on where to search next. There are many things they could do to help bring her home while others are out searching again and again and again.

I still do not see the point of standing in front of his parents' house holding signs (and they did chant before, IIRC). At least at the jail where EA is located brings some attention to them, but does EA know or even care?
 
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This is an unusual way to go about finding a missing person. People liken it to what happened in Caylee's case and it is a troubling comparison. The drama and ridiculous display did nothing to find Caylee.

I haven't heard of that many searches for Christina, but maybe you are right. People don't stop searching after 6 months. People don't stop searching after a year. In Lindsey Baum's case, people are still going out searching as a group 5 years later.

Perhaps people could hold a drive to raise the reward for information and the physically limited could man the phones or they could use the time to come up with fresh ideas on where to search next. There are many things they could do to help bring her home while others are out searching again and again and again.

I still do not see the point of standing in front of his parents' house holding signs (and they did chant before, IIRC). At least at the jail where EA is located brings some attention to them, but does EA know or even care?

This is an unusual way to go about finding a missing person. People liken it to what happened in Caylee's case and it is a troubling comparison. The drama and ridiculous display did nothing to find Caylee.

I haven't heard of that many searches for Christina, but maybe you are right. People don't stop searching after 6 months. People don't stop searching after a year. In Lindsey Baum's case, people are still going out searching as a group 5 years later.

Perhaps people could hold a drive to raise the reward for information and the physically limited could man the phones or they could use the time to come up with fresh ideas on where to search next. There are many things they could do to help bring her home while others are out searching again and again and again.

I still do not see the point of standing in front of his parents' house holding signs (and they did chant before, IIRC). At least at the jail where EA is located brings some attention to them, but does EA know or even care?

There are public searches every Saturday morning, I've been to several, and I can tell you there are other searches throughout the week. Jonni didn't move back to TX to sit on her butt.

I disagree that raising the reward would be of much help, as it is already 25K and EA is in jail.

I'm not sure which phones they could man considering it's been ~6 months and I doubt the leads are flowing in at this point. Besides, Crimestoppers and LE get paid to do that.

The thing about the jail protests is that people that walk into the jail during visitation hours see it and they go tell the inmate they are visiting. The word spreads about what a lying coward EA is and other inmates start applying pressure on him from the inside. If he's not gonna man up & talk, they're gonna at least make his life hell.

They are not chanting. From what I saw on Jonnis FB, they got permission for the protests, but we're told they must be silent protests.
 
  • #88
These people have literally searched day in & day out for nearly half a year. Christina is most definitely the 1st priority, to say anything otherwise is absurd. Not everyone can physically search (take Christina's elderly grandparents as an example -who I've seen in photos outside the jail in the freezing cold)

They aren't chanting anything. They are silently and peacefully holding up signs that ask for answers. This is hardly the most offensive part of this case, IMO.
Thank you cat patrol!
 
  • #89
There are public searches every Saturday morning, I've been to several, and I can tell you there are other searches throughout the week. Jonni didn't move back to TX to sit on her butt.

I disagree that raising the reward would be of much help, as it is already 25K and EA is in jail.

I'm not sure which phones they could man considering it's been ~6 months and I doubt the leads are flowing in at this point. Besides, Crimestoppers and LE get paid to do that.

The thing about the jail protests is that people that walk into the jail during visitation hours see it and they go tell the inmate they are visiting. The word spreads about what a lying coward EA is and other inmates start applying pressure on him from the inside. If he's not gonna man up & talk, they're gonna at least make his life hell.

They are not chanting. From what I saw on Jonnis FB, they got permission for the protests, but we're told they must be silent protests.
Good to know they are doing weekend searches. I didn't think Jonni would be doing nothing after she left Tulsa and her life behind.

Raising the reward could always draw out something new either about seeing EA, talking to him later, or about someone else being involved. The phones I suggested they man were to take pledges for a drive to raise the reward. I am well aware of LE and Crime Stoppers. This wasn't about leads, it was about doing something productive for Christina. I do think raising the reward should be done if possible.

Seriously? People really think other criminals are going to hear about the picketing and then pressure EA?! Not a chance in hell that is going to happen, imo. If anything, they will be giving EA lessons in jailhouse legal advice and high fiving him for having a "fan club". There are very few in jail who want to insure other inmates do the right thing or have manned up themselves. smh

I said I thought they chanted before at EA's house, but I could be wrong. I will see if I can find the video or the comments about it.
 
  • #90
LE enforcement would have had to be idiots t not look at EA and HF from the very beginning.
And...they did! That's exactly where they started. We see the results, huh?! Evidence shapes and defines investigations not WS theories, not "maybe" nor "what if's", it's based on factual common sense evidence.
 
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tym, I appreciate your passion for websleuth cases. However: If the picketing is illegal, please post statute.

If the picketing is actionable, action probably would have been taken. Right?

If my child were missing, and I knew who was responsible, you can bet I would be doing everything legally within my power to do to get answers. And honestly, I probably would do whatever I thought I needed to do, legal or not, to find my child. However, since the law has not stopped the picketing, I'm assuming it is not illegal for the Morris camp to picket.

We do not know if the picketing will help, or hinder. So I cannot fault the Morris' for trying it, because it just might have some positive results for them.

As to the assertion the Morris' should be looking for Christina instead of picketing--puleese. How many cases do we know about where the missing are missing for umpteen years? Decades? Even with ping info, etc., a body is just too easy to either hide or dispose of, so if you can get the perpetrator to tell where she was taken out of the trunk of his car, perhaps that time is reduced to days, weeks, or months, instead.

Some people probably don't want to search, perhaps couldn't bear coming across remains. But they can picket, and so the family of a missing person utilizes the resources available to them.

I, for one, will not, at this time, fault the Morris' for doing any legal activity that would help them locate Christina.

I heart ^^^ this!! TY Wind....
What's soo hard to grasp? Common sense IMO
 
  • #93
These people have literally searched day in & day out for nearly half a year. Christina is most definitely the 1st priority, to say anything otherwise is absurd. Not everyone can physically search (take Christina's elderly grandparents as an example -who I've seen in photos outside the jail in the freezing cold)

They aren't chanting anything. They are silently and peacefully holding up signs that ask for answers. This is hardly the most offensive part of this case, IMO.
On another note....most ppl can't imagine how vast TX land is. I won't explain, it's irrelevant here, but it's like searching outer space for a single shooting star. Smh....
 
  • #94
This is an unusual way to go about finding a missing person. People liken it to what happened in Caylee's case and it is a troubling comparison. The drama and ridiculous display did nothing to find Caylee.

I haven't heard of that many searches for Christina, but maybe you are right. People don't stop searching after 6 months. People don't stop searching after a year. In Lindsey Baum's case, people are still going out searching as a group 5 years later.

Perhaps people could hold a drive to raise the reward for information and the physically limited could man the phones or they could use the time to come up with fresh ideas on where to search next. There are many things they could do to help bring her home while others are out searching again and again and again.

I still do not see the point of standing in front of his parents' house holding signs (and they did chant before, IIRC). At least at the jail where EA is located brings some attention to them, but does EA know or even care?

Just jumping off your post SS, nothing to you!

Ha! If you haven't heard of many searches being done, get your self down here local, it's insulting to even state those words or doubt (not you specifically but others here YES) the "donated funds" are being used obscurely. WE KNOW for a fact, searches are being done daily, the public is invited to search/meet up every week for "public searches" that aren't revealed to the media, I have personally seen Jonni's car parked along side heavily wooded areas more than a dozen times, all local, no media just a mom scouring thru the thick of the trees and wooded brush.

I apologize that we seem to be a hyper sensitive group of sleuthers...it's just in our nature to seek justice, seek answers and WHERE THE "F" IS CM? She left EA's trunk but WHERE?! That's why we are asking HIM, his family, his attorney, his community, his town!

Answers aren't given when you don't ask....they're given when you do!
 
  • #95
Good to know they are doing weekend searches. I didn't think Jonni would be doing nothing after she left Tulsa and her life behind.

Raising the reward could always draw out something new either about seeing EA, talking to him later, or about someone else being involved. The phones I suggested they man were to take pledges for a drive to raise the reward. I am well aware of LE and Crime Stoppers. This wasn't about leads, it was about doing something productive for Christina. I do think raising the reward should be done if possible.

Seriously? People really think other criminals are going to hear about the picketing and then pressure EA?! Not a chance in hell that is going to happen, imo. If anything, they will be giving EA lessons in jailhouse legal advice and high fiving him for having a "fan club". There are very few in jail who want to insure other inmates do the right thing or have manned up themselves. smh

I said I thought they chanted before at EA's house, but I could be wrong. I will see if I can find the video or the comments about it.

What time does it get dark in TX, I thought the jail protests were taking place in the evening when there wouldn't be enough light to search.

The videos I've seen have been of silent protests, there may be some with shouting but I've watched multiple ones and I haven't seen any.

I'm not convinced about the amount of the reward, is it likely that if somoeone knows something they are keeping quiet because $25k isn't enough? IMO if there is such a person they are keeping quiet because they are scared to speak out or they have some kind of loyalty to EA and I don't think either of those things have a price tag.

I have no experience of jail at all but from what I read those suspected of crimes against children and young women may well be reviled by others and I can absolutely see EA getting a very hard time from his fellow inmates, IMO kidnapping a defenceless young woman is hardly going to make him someone to be looked up to or respected, I wouldn't be surprised if he was being kept away from the other prisoners for his own safety.

JMO
 
  • #96
I heart ^^^ this!! TY Wind....
What's soo hard to grasp? Common sense IMO

Yes .. what is so hard to grasp ... Common sense .. and Rights.

I see a few scenarios playing out in this unfortunate situation and will not be surprised... time will tell.
The clock speeds up for some and slows to a sloth crawl for others. IMO
 
  • #97
What time does it get dark in TX, I thought the jail protests were taking place in the evening when there wouldn't be enough light to search.

The videos I've seen have been of silent protests, there may be some with shouting but I've watched multiple ones and I haven't seen any.

I'm not convinced about the amount of the reward, is it likely that if somoeone knows something they are keeping quiet because $25k isn't enough? IMO if there is such a person they are keeping quiet because they are scared to speak out or they have some kind of loyalty to EA and I don't think either of those things have a price tag.

I have no experience of jail at all but from what I read those suspected of crimes against children and young women may well be reviled by others and I can absolutely see EA getting a very hard time from his fellow inmates, IMO kidnapping a defenceless young woman is hardly going to make him someone to be looked up to or respected, I wouldn't be surprised if he was being kept away from the other prisoners for his own safety.

JMO
The photos I have seen at the home with the picketing group were in the daytime with clear weather. The night shots I have seen at the jail were during the candlelight vigil I believe (unless they do that every night).

I thought I vaguely remembered someone (Jonni perhaps?) making a comment about EA being able to hear them as they picketed. Like I said, I could be mistaken.

I don't have jail experience either, but from what I have been told over the years the inmates do not like anyone who messed with children. The same does not apply to young women, imo. EA is probably being held separately, but only because this is a high profile case and not because of his safety due to allegedly harming a young woman. EA is in with some pretty rough people and respect won't come easily regardless of his crime.

Rewards can and do work, but it has to be made worth their while to give up info on some people. If the reward isn't too demanding, the chances of garnering solid information is better. They need more leads and they need people who may have talked to EA or seen something to come forward. They aren't yet. Someone knows something outside of his circle, imo.

I know the family and friends want answers from EA, his family, or his attorney, but surely they know answers are not coming from them...right?! It won't happen! He isn't going to talk and his family won't throw him under the bus. His attorney certainly won't help convict his client! It is an exercise in futility.
 
  • #98
On another note....most ppl can't imagine how vast TX land is. I won't explain, it's irrelevant here, but it's like searching outer space for a single shooting star. Smh....
.

I was reading the located page yesterday
2 missing persons were located deceased and they were found in areas already searched. The mans son said we walked right past him.
So many are found very very close to where they were last seen.
Sooo IMO go back and do it again.
Krisiti Cornwell was found a year after she went missing by her brother clost to where she went missing from. The area was searched.

So IMO go back and search these areas again!

Why are the search areas so hush hush?
They have EA in Jail right?
Unless they fear there is someone else out there that will move her.

food for thought nothing more!
 
  • #99
If I were Jonni Id be all over the Detective assigned to her like white on rice!

That's where she will get whatever information that they are free to indulge not the Arochi's

Sadly they don't release a lot of info so if they wont release info to her do u really think HIs parents will?

JMO
 
  • #100
No offense meant to you, but I hate that this slogan has been chosen for Christina, because it's lyrics to a song Miley Cyrus did that is about using Molly and partying. I'm sure the people who started using it have no idea or they wouldn't have used it!
I honestly thought the line was "dancing with Miley" until now!
Naive, much?
 
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