GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #36 *Arrest*

[Sweetgrits]

Someone earlier brought up the "Kelly" tool( kind of like a tire iron). I thought about this in conjunction with the cellphone hoard EA had in his car. Maybe when CM and EA arrived at the garage he told her something like: yes, I have a charger for your phone in my trunk. He opens trunk, she is standing there waiting and then is hit by tire iron from his trunk. Places her in trunk and....

Good theory. If he had phones he could have had chargers too. And since her phone was almost dead I don't think she would have questioned where they were kept.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I think if they got their hands on "rock" (and it was indeed "crack"), Christina may have had a seizure, heart attack or suffered death as a result.
She was a very small person and had taken an Adderall earlier (if true) as well.

Don't ask me why, if this happened, EA hasn't told the truth.
Because I couldn't begin to tell you why.
It may explain why he believes he didn't "murder" her though.
And, if this did happen, he may have handed her off to someone else who put her somewhere. There's a slight chance EA really doesn't know where Christina is.

Also the friends know/knew what happened to Christina if this scenario is true imo.
HF knew CM wasn't going to return home safe and alive - he already knew when he spoke to the media.
SN knew when he saw Christina leaving the apartment early Saturday morning, it had been for the last time. He said so when her story hit the news.
He didn't know that on Saturday but he knew it by (day?).

This is my alternative theory to EA killed Christina during a sexually motivated attack.
There is more concrete evidence pointing to drug related activity being conducted and both EA and CM may have been involved in the score.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Yes of course we don't know for sure of EA's location but I was going off one of your posts #425 throwing out one reason that EA may have returned to an area near SOL. Just a theory and JMO.

Yes, I know. That's what I was doing too!

It just seems too risky to return to the scene of the crime so soon after he committed it - based on the theory he accosted Christina in the garage before speeding away.

Just like EA was the last person seen with Christina, their final texts were asking for drugs.
Don't two lasts carry the same weight?

 

[MIKAYOYO]

Yes, I know. That's what I was doing too!

It just seems too risky to return to the scene of the crime so soon after he committed it - based on the theory he accosted Christina in the garage before speeding away.

Just like EA was the last person seen with Christina, their final texts were asking for drugs.
Don't two lasts carry the same weight?

There's that word accosted again. I will venture to guess you used it correctly in this scenario. MOO

 

[Latestforever]

Here is another theory/ idea:

EA and CM are walking into the garage. As they approach their cars, there is "someone else" waiting for them in the garage. There is a scuffle; CM is injured and put in trunk, EA is injured(from fighting perp)and put in the backseat of his car disabled(tied up,etc). Unknown person drives to the drop off point for CM, then drives back towards SOL. Unknown person then gets out near SOL and frees EA from his "containment" with a warning of "I will kill your future, your family, and whatever else you care about in this world if you say anything." EA is scared to death and begins his "story" of lies.

Sounds far fetched? Yep, for me too! My imagination can come up for many scenarios, this is just another.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

There's that word accosted again. I will venture to guess you used it correctly in this scenario. MOO

What do you mean? Is accost inappropriate?
Doesn't it mean to try to get something you want from someone else using aggression?

 

[SteveS]

There is more concrete evidence pointing to drug related activity being conducted and both EA and CM may have been involved in the score.

So you think CM had drugs in her purse, and EA killed her to get them? Obviously whatever theory is chosen has to center around them. There are only two people we can put at the scene, and we know they both left in his car so it was an extended time together (in some way or another).

 

[JDauxa]

Even though Meth resembles a crystal rock, it is called crystal, glass, ice or crank.
http://www.narconon.org/drug-information/methamphetamine-ice.html

Everything about Cocaine known as coke, snow, flake or blow in powder form.
Crack is described too.
If you click specifically the crack description, you'll see the dangerous results a person can suffer from smoking crack.
The statistics at this site are old - from the 80's and 90's. What's up with that?
http://www.narconon.org/drug-information/cocaine-coke.html

There are so many slang names given to different drugs these days so who knows.
Oh I know, bf knows and so does EA.

Also bf was arrested for something that begins with "e".
Is that a chemical used to make a drug into something else? Or, a drug all by itself?
Whatever, LE believes bf had access to "rock", good rock at that.

Not sure if you are truly posing a questions with regards to the bold text, but to answer your question I do believe "e" would be Ectasy, also known as "X"

 

[MIKAYOYO]

What do you mean? Is accost inappropriate?
Doesn't it mean to try to get something you want from someone else using aggression?

Why yes, yes it does.

 

[catpatrol]

Not sure if you are truly posing a questions with regards to the bold text, but to answer your question I do believe "e" would be Ectasy, also known as "X"

HF was arrested for ethylone. I think it's a designer synthetic drug, similar to MDMA or ecstasy, but the places that make them continually come up with new formulations and call them new things. There have been a couple of recent deaths of local kids due to the synthetic drug called N-Bomb.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

So you think CM had drugs in her purse, and EA killed her to get them? Obviously whatever theory is chosen has to center around them. There are only two people we can put at the scene, and we know they both left in his car so it was an extended time together (in some way or another).

No, I don't think EA went after drugs already in Christina's possession.
The possibility exists that they ventured out together to get the drugs from HF since they inquired about wanting them via text. They worked as a team apparently.
At least Jonni claims she heard Christina's voice during one of the contacts (two texts, one vm).
If not HF, they may have found another source to acquire similar drugs.
Why would EA stop his efforts to acquire "rock" so soon?
That's anti behavior for someone who is wanting to obtain drugs.
Maybe Christina said she'd go with EA to do so.

 

[Latestforever]

HF was arrested for ethylone. I think it's a designer synthetic drug, similar to MDMA or ecstasy, but the places that make them continually come up with new formulations and call them new things. There have been a couple of recent deaths of local kids due to the synthetic drug called N-Bomb.

This is a report of 12 going to the hospital due to so called "MDMA":
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/02/23/wesleyan-11-students-hospitalized-with-drug-symptoms/

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Not sure if you are truly posing a questions with regards to the bold text, but to answer your question I do believe "e" would be Ectasy, also known as "X"

Thanks. See below for the exact "e" word written in the article about hf's arrest.
Sorry that I was too lazy to look it up or link the article about the drug bust/sting operation.
What bold text?
Please see my post #438 - I didn't bold the line in my post that you show bolded.
Oh, I get it now, you bolded the line unsure if I was asking a question or not. duh!
Time for bed - lol!

HF was arrested for ethylone. I think it's a designer synthetic drug, similar to MDMA or ecstasy, but the places that make them continually come up with new formulations and call them new things. There have been a couple of recent deaths of local kids due to the synthetic drug called N-Bomb.

Thank you catpatrol. Yes, "ethylone" that's it. I'd never heard of it before.
So JDauxa could be correct too if ethylone is considered (a type of?) ecstasy.
I knew the word ecstasy wasn't what LE listed as the drug hf was arrested for dealing though.
I looked it up. A lot comes up in French and German languages.
It's a Rave drug, involves a long word beginning with 'meth' and is a stimulant.

 

[catpatrol]

This is a report of 12 going to the hospital due to so called "MDMA":
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/02/23/wesleyan-11-students-hospitalized-with-drug-symptoms/

I watched a show that explained that since only certain known chemical formulations are banned by US, the people who make the drugs just alter the chemical formulas every time they ban one. So that's why they call them designer drugs, and DEA has to continually ban all of the new stuff they come up with

 

[jnblsm]

Here is another theory/ idea:

EA and CM are walking into the garage. As they approach their cars, there is "someone else" waiting for them in the garage. There is a scuffle; CM is injured and put in trunk, EA is injured(from fighting perp)and put in the backseat of his car disabled(tied up,etc). Unknown person drives to the drop off point for CM, then drives back towards SOL. Unknown person then gets out near SOL and frees EA from his "containment" with a warning of "I will kill your future, your family, and whatever else you care about in this world if you say anything." EA is scared to death and begins his "story" of lies.

Sounds far fetched? Yep, for me too! My imagination can come up for many scenarios, this is just another.

Interesting.
Love that you opened our minds to another possibility.

 

[SteveS]

I appreciate all the hard work you guys are doing in discussing and figuring out all these drugs and drug lingo. But it's so foreign to me. I'll probably just be happy to end up with the general sense that some of the people in this story maybe liked "drugs," or wanted drugs, or something like that, but please don't ask me to take a quiz on which drug is which and so on :shame:

 

[Suthrnqt]

Subscribing

 

[leep]

I am referring to "real life" & first hand... "Rock Cocaine"... maybe it's a southern thang.. lol

ETA: As Mamamerced said, this comes from the 70's-80's...

Your right rock is crack cocaine (freebased cocaine) and is normally used in conjunction with heroin which i just don't see CM,EA and friends been involved in.
and i think looking at BF he is the one that sells and uses molly and for that reason i think EA is asking BF for molly not crack (maybe hes not that accurate in what he asking for and maybe it was just a ruse anyway) to my knowledge i've never known a dealer sell molly/mdma and crack two totally different drugs.

Source:- Been there done that for years unfortunately.

 

[Eileen730]

I think they need to search closer to her home!

I don't think she is near the Shops or EA's

 

[Z&BsMommy]

I've always thought that the rock text was possibly CM trying to get HF to respond.. JMO
Eta: NOT that Christina wanted drugs, I think she was using that as a ruse to get HF to respond since he was ignoring her..
#ComeHomeChristina