GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #36 *Arrest*

[Woe.be.gone]

Do You really think she would text that to her drug dealing BF?

jumping off your post, Eileen (not addressing you).

Either CM or EA sent a text to HF from EA's phone asking for drugs.
Considering HF was under suspicion for being a dealer, if CM sent the message maybe he was furious about it. I doubt she'd send that text to get his attention because she doesn't strike me as being stupid. I think EA sent the text in her presence.

IMO the 'xoxoxo' message is ridiculous. Sorry.
There are at least two reports claiming CM and HF were having problems on Friday (per CM's boss) and during phone conversations into Saturday (per SN). They weren't in xoxoxo mode.
It is one thing to theorize but taking the information we've been told and inventing explanations or excuses for specific verbiage and such is, well, annoying to say the least.

EA wanted a drug from HF. Period.

I'd like to see statistics showing crack is usually combined with heroin.
When the two are combined, it is called "speed balling". But why would this be the usual way of smoking crack? It may be for some people I guess but usual?????

If "rock" isn't crack then maybe, just maybe, EA was asking for meth.
BUT LE did say "cocaine" and that they believed HF had access.

Now if people want to invent stories and talk about the tooth fairy go ahead.
I don't really see the point of minimizing reality though. Doing that won't reveal the truth.

 

[SeeAlice]

Do You really think she would text that to her drug dealing BF?

LOL, I would, if he refused to answer my phone calls & texts, just to see if he would answer someone else.

JMO

 

[Woe.be.gone]

If Jonni heard Christina's voice, which was the reason (hearsay) she knew CM used EA's phone, then CM did use his phone regardless if the message was about drugs or leaving the door open, keys or whatever.
We were told Jonni knew CM used EA's phone but never heard directly from Jonni.

HF let LE do whatever they did with his phone on September 6th.
EA's phone had been wiped clean.
Do you think if HF had incriminating messages on his phone, or another phone, he didn't attempt to get rid of it too?
It took HF an extra day (iirc) to get around to producing his phone for LE too.
I just hope LE looked closely checking for alterations into HF's phone records too.
LE said there wasn't prior evidence of HF and EA communicating but they did say HF contacted EA one time after CM was missing.
LE didn't reveal the day or reason why.
Was it, where the heck is Christina? Or, I've got that good rock.
Or, here's the plan for keeping our story tight.
At this point, LE's comment doesn't tell us anything imo.

 

[cluciano63]

The way I remember it is that once we found out what the text said it was thought to extremely unlikely wording for a person to text to their live in significant other.

I don't know the style in which Christina and HF messaged each other but imo if Christina had texted it would be more like "Hey honey, could we have some of that good rock when I get home, love you xoxoxo"

JMO

Unless EA asked her to text him?

 

[zippixx]

Some observations:

*LE believes CM left garage in trunk, yet he meticulously vacuums passenger area & then cleans passenger door @ Kroger

*There was enough time (IMO) for something to happen in garage (3-4 minutes).. but if there was substantial DNA in trunk, you would think there would be plenty in the garage too.. what were the results from the "dog hit"? Maybe it was washed away before LE was able to test?

*The return trip to Granite Pkwy - why? Was he considering disposing CM and/or belongings there, but maybe changed mind? If he disposed of CM there, why would he be 3 hours late to work? It would only make sense to be at work ON TIME to avoid suspicion. (I know we can account for the 10:15-11:00.. at Kroger & driving to work)

*Dents to BOTH sides of car (right worse than left) - that just doesn't sound like a typical street accident.. I'm thinking he was out in a field or wooded area.

*Car was repaired rather quickly (I believe according to one of the VI's)

Just some things that make me go hmmmm...:thinking:

 

[Woe.be.gone]

How do we know who made the call about "good rock?" TIA.

The "good rock" was asked for via text.
I believe this info came out through the Discovery ID show about Christina's case.
Using EA's phone, two texts and one call were made to HF.
The three times given were when EA and CM were together.

 

[zippixx]

If Jonni heard Christina's voice, which was the reason (hearsay) she knew CM used EA's phone, then CM did use his phone regardless if the message was about drugs or leaving the door open, keys or whatever.
We were told Jonni knew CM used EA's phone but never heard directly from Jonni.

HF let LE do whatever they did with his phone on September 6th.
EA's phone had been wiped clean.
Do you think if HF had incriminating messages on his phone, or another phone, he didn't attempt to get rid of it too?
It took HF an extra day (iirc) to get around to producing his phone for LE too.
I just hope LE looked closely checking for alterations into HF's phone records too.
LE said there wasn't prior evidence of HF and EA communicating but they did say HF contacted EA one time after CM was missing.
LE didn't reveal the day or reason why.
Was it, where the heck is Christina? Or, I've got that good rock.
Or, here's the plan for keeping our story tight.
At this point, LE's comment doesn't tell us anything imo.

From the hearing:

Foster contacted Arochi days later, asking about Morris. Detectives found no previous contact between Foster and Arochi.

http://starlocalmedia.com/allenamer...862-9de4-11e4-b48e-5765cf2b7e65.html?mode=jqm

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Some observations:

*LE believes CM left garage in trunk, yet he meticulously vacuums passenger area & then cleans passenger door @ Kroger

response ~Good point.


*There was enough time (IMO) for something to happen in garage (3-4 minutes).. but if there was substantial DNA in trunk, you would think there would be plenty in the garage too.. what were the results from the "dog hit"? Maybe it was washed away before LE was able to test?

response ~ "dog hit" - at first I thought a dog was hit in the garage - lol.
iirc the PI used a dog who hit on something human near the pillar.
Yet, the something human (fluids) could belong to anyone from what I understand.
Was it a cadaver dog, a scent dog (who sniffs an object belonging to the person and tracks down their specific scent).
Not enough info revealed about the dog's training and if CM's scent was used (of course, she was in the garage), etc.
There wasn't anything meaningful gained specific to Christina afaik.


*The return trip to Granite Pkwy - why? Was he considering disposing CM and/or belongings there, but maybe changed mind? If he disposed of CM there, why would he be 3 hours late to work? It would only make sense to be at work ON TIME to avoid suspicion. (I know we can account for the 10:15-11:00.. at Kroger & driving to work)

response ~ Don't know. I gave an opinion that he may have doubled back to meet someone with an alive CM or not, if he needed help or to buy.


*Dents to BOTH sides of car (right worse than left) - that just doesn't sound like a typical street accident.. I'm thinking he was out in a field or wooded area.

response ~ I wonder if there are clear enough images of EA's car leaving the garage to make out if it was dented at that time.
Someone posted a long time ago EA may have hit Christina with his car.
At the time, I dismissed the idea for no reason other than thinking someone would have noticed, heard something or EA couldn't exit the garage that fast in that case - whatever.
But I keep thinking about those parking cement type objects that one pulls a car up to and parks up close to it thus keeping the rows straight I guess.
Has anybody ever forgotten about one of those things in front of your car and accelerated forward?
What if EA went over one of those things and hit a pillar and somehow Christina was in his path.


*Car was repaired rather quickly (I believe according to one of the VI's)

response ~ Yes, and he's covering up the real cause of the damage.


Just some things that make be go hmmmm...:thinking:

This is a first - my message is too short per a pop up note!
Guess it is necessary to type something under the last line as well.
My replies didn't turn out the way I thought they would so I typed "response" in front of my thoughts.

 

[zippixx]

This is a first - my message is too short per a pop up note!
Guess it is necessary to type something under the last line as well.
My replies didn't turn out the way I thought they would so I typed "response" in front of my thoughts.

LOL.. yeah, I think you have to have at least 3-4 characters, to post a reply.. for some reason, your replies look like part of my original post.. maybe the Mods can fix it.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

From the hearing:

Foster contacted Arochi days later, asking about Morris. Detectives found no previous contact between Foster and Arochi.

http://starlocalmedia.com/allenamer...862-9de4-11e4-b48e-5765cf2b7e65.html?mode=jqm

I know, but what exactly does days later mean? After she was reported missing or before?
Days later could mean Monday or after Wednesday.
As it is, the info doesn't have specific meaning to me.
That's why I want to know if LE checked if HF deleted phone history or used another phone for his drug dealings.
The two may have communicated all the time using separate devices.
EA had a bunch of them in his car and, I suppose, HF had other means as well.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

LOL.. yeah, I think you have to have at least 3-4 characters, to post a reply.. for some reason, your replies look like part of my original post.. maybe the Mods can fix it.

I don't know why that happened. Guess I should have used a color.
Do you want me to delete my post?

 

[zippixx]

I know, but what exactly does days later mean? After she was reported missing or before?
Days later could mean Monday or after Wednesday.
As it is, the info doesn't have specific meaning to me.
That's why I want to know if LE checked if HF deleted phone history or used another phone for his drug dealings.
The two may have communicated all the time using separate devices.
EA had a bunch of them in his car and, I suppose, HF had other means as well.

Not sure... I have a feeling it was after CM was reported missing.. but JMO

 

[zippixx]

I don't know why that happened. Guess I should have used a color.
Do you want me to delete my post?

Doesn't matter to me...

 

[Woe.be.gone]

No one can quote the part of the post with my responses anyway so it won't be carried forward. Your original post remains untouched zippixx.

 

[zippixx]

No one can quote the part of the post with my responses anyway so it won't be carried forward. Your original post remains untouched zippixx.

Yeah.. no worries, WBG

 

[daisytrail]

WBG, I really liked your point about those concrete parking thingies.

ETA: I have no idea how to spell that last word above. :thinking:

 

[Woe.be.gone]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25540061

In December 2014 a thirty year old man died from a combination of Ethylone and other drugs. His death was ruled accidental.

http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/21cfr/21usc/841.htm

An explanation of drug categories and quantities that dictate terms of prison sentences.
Another factor involved is if a death occurred as a result of the actions of a drug dealer.

Since two patrons of the club Eden died, I wonder if investigations include tracing their deaths back to a specific drug and finding who sold the drug to them.

HF is under Federal Contract Hold meaning his drug charges aren't directly from the state of Texas. It is possible to be charged for the same crime both Federally and by the State in separate courts.
Bond is not granted/allowed in felony Federal cases.

It is unclear as to why HF's case is a Federal one.
It may be because the drugs were being supplied through Mexico.
States have drug laws too.
If someone is trafficking drugs between states it would be a Federal offense.
If someone lives in a state and sells within the state, why is it a Federal crime?
Could this be the reason Cartel activity is possible?
Also if the U.S. mail is used to obtain or transfer drugs, the case falls under Federal laws.

The Eden bust may be more serious than usual because of the connected deaths.
It looks as if HF's goose is cooked for, at a minimum, at least ten years.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

WBG, I really liked your point about those concrete parking thingies.

ETA: I have no idea how to spell that last word above. :thinking:

Thanks, neither do I! I think it is thingies or if only one, thingy.

Do the concrete thingies have an actual name though? Are they called barriers? :crazy:

 

[daisytrail]

Thanks, neither do I! I think it is thingies or if only one, thingy.

Do the concrete thingies have an actual name though? Are they called barriers? :crazy:

Here we go:

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090816203602AAwJ4h9

They are apparently called precast parking bumpers or parking blocks or bumper blocks.

 

[Eileen730]

LOL, I would, if he refused to answer my phone calls & texts, just to see if he would answer someone else.

JMO

Thing is the possibility is there that if he gets busted she could also be in trouble. I do not think either of them are that stupid. Jmo