GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #36 *Arrest*

[Woe.be.gone]

O/T - body found in Lake Ray Hubbard about 1.5-2 hours ago.

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I was driving down 30, and LE & the crime scene van was pulling up.

Thanks!
Wow, I'm just reading this now - four hours later!

 

[catpatrol]

Here's EA's court record for the theft charge.

 

[zippixx]

Thanks!
Wow, I'm just reading this now - four hours later!

LE believes this is a person that was reported missing yesterday.....

http://crimeblog.dallasnews.com/201...nd-dead-near-lake-ray-hubbard-shoreline.html/

 

[daisytrail]

No idea.. oversight? I thought he was already "out" on bond for the theft charge.. Maybe it's for not appearing in court...

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/PDF-Enrique-Arochi-Wylie-Arrest-Record-281675911.html

If you are already in jail, can you get in trouble for not appearing? Wouldn't be a bit Catch-22?

 

[b.humble]

Yeah, I can just see the detectives, after a few minutes of the first interview, shaking their heads in disbelief... :notgood:

This is why I couldn't be an interrogator. After the second known lie I'd be throwing clipboards, yelling, asking someone to hold my earrings.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

So with all the thoughts you offered re HF, I don't see any actual evidence at all. No evidence that puts him at the scene, no evidence that he did something to CM, no evidence that he colluded with EA, no evidence to tie him to the crime of abducting CM.

People do sketchy things, and can be bad BFs, but this is about a crime rather than a character reference. And if we want to tie someone to a crime, it takes some evidence.

Got any? Without it, there's no case against HF. Lots of us are willing to discuss actual evidence against HF if there is any, but when we ask we get crickets.

He wasn't with his phone. He said so himself. How can his phone provide evidence for him then?
He conveniently lost his phone when he should have had it with him. If it pings from the hotel, tough. He said he misplaced or lost it.
What aren't you getting?

It is everything HF didn't do that has me highly suspicious of him, still.

 

[zippixx]

I'm not claiming HF hands-on did something to Christina necessarily.
He told inconsistent stories and that makes him a liar too.
Something is wrong with the picture and he's locked up as well.

Someone asked for reasons why some people aren't jumping on the EA acted alone train.
I gave my reason.
I'm not on the jury of twelve which should make some posters happy!

Most people realize there's a large number of people who are already convinced BEFORE the trial or even an indictment that EA is solely responsible for what has happened to Christina.
To me, that's wrong.
That said, there are at least three cases that come to mind when I felt I could convict the perp (all had been charged already tho) before the formal trial took place or concluded.
As of now, there are too many unanswered questions surrounding this case to conclude EA acted alone imo.
I'm not dismissing EA altogether.

If evidence against EA is so strong, there's nothing for you prosecutors to worry about.
I'm not ready to go there yet.

If someone can show me some concrete evidence that points to someone else, I'll look that way. Until then, I can only go with the obvious. I hope nobody else is involved & so far I have seen absolutely no evidence that there is.... A lost phone, a handful of drugged-up kids, even a felony drug bust, of a 2-bit dealer, doesn't show me anything that ties in with CM's dissappearance..... jmo

 

[MIKAYOYO]

This is why I couldn't be an interrogator. After the second known lie I'd be throwing clipboards, yelling, asking someone to hold my earrings.

BBM, I just choked on my drink. Thanks for the giggle.

 

[Momoffourboys]

A Molly dealer is not a two bit dealer. IMO.
A guy who sells dime bags here and there is a two bit dealer.
Selling drugs (not weed) in clubs is much more serious than many believe. JMO

 

[Woe.be.gone]

No fighting. We'll just have to wait and see.

 

[zippixx]

A Molly dealer is not a two bit dealer. IMO.
A guy who sells dime bags here and there is a two bit dealer.
Selling drugs (not weed) in clubs is much more serious than many believe. JMO

I guess there is no true definition for "two-bit". I just envision him selling single hits of whatever for $10 each.. To me that's a 2-bit dealer... But I certainly could be wrong... maybe he was selling more than that.. I still don't believe he was any kind of "big-time" pusher.. especially selling to undercover at a club....

JMO!!!!

 

[Helen_Ready]

He wasn't with his phone. He said so himself. How can his phone provide evidence for him then?
He conveniently lost his phone when he should have had it with him. If it pings from the hotel, tough. He said he misplaced or lost it.
What aren't you getting?

It is everything HF didn't do that has me highly suspicious of him, still.

Imo........HF was probably under surveillance..... LE has been on to him since Aug 1st of last year for dealing.....like Zippi, I'd be open to facts that show others involvement.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Imo........HF was probably under surveillance..... LE has been on to him since Aug 1st of last year for dealing.....like Zippi, I'd be open to facts that show others involvement.

The only surveillance the feds needed was to monitor them at the club when their own informants were making the buys and introducing them to the dealers. I don't believe for one minute they put tails on all of those dealers they arrested 24/7. They don't even do that for suspected murderers or rapists so why for a few drug dealers who in the scheme of drug dealing are not very high up on the totem pole?

They caught HF dealing at the club and he was arrested at the club.

 

[zippixx]

We have been reminded many times to stay within TOS on HF. He can't be sleuthed and discussed on here in that way, so you can't get your answers no matter how many times you ask.

He can't be sleuthed because there is no evidence that he had anything to do with CM's disappearance or AK... eace:

 

[zippixx]

fftobed:

 

[SeriouslySearching]

One piece of factual evidence is the communication from EA to HF immediately prior to the abduction. Regardless of what it said or if the message was acknowledged by HF...the text itself puts HF into the scenario. If this were any other case...we would be all over the fact he was the last one to receive a communication not only from CM, but the accused EA.

 

[SteveS]

One piece of factual evidence is the communication from EA to HF immediately prior to the abduction. Regardless of what it said or if the message was acknowledged by HF...the text itself puts HF into the scenario. If this were any other case...we would be all over the fact he was the last one to receive a communication not only from CM, but the accused EA.

It is factual that someone texted HF. But is it actually evidence?

It could be perhaps be used as supporting or corroborating of primary evidence, if we have anything that can put HF at the scene, show he did something to CM, show he colluded with EA, or involve him in the crime of abducting CM.

But if we have to take it as primary proof of something (and I think you're saying this is the best we have to offer against HF), then I don't see how it can be said to be EVIDENCE that he did this crime. It's just a random fact. (And afaik we can't even prove who sent it or if HF saw it that night, which weakens its value even more.)

Still looking for evidence, if there is any.

 

[Balor51]

O/T:

My brother bought chanel bag/purse at a rummage sale. He is drag queen...lol. any way, it reminded me of the purse discussion we had on these threads. He asked me how do you tell if it real or not. They told him it is real, he said it does look real. But I know the fakes look pretty real too. Anyone know? Thanks for any info in advance.

 

[b.humble]

One piece of factual evidence is the communication from EA to HF immediately prior to the abduction. Regardless of what it said or if the message was acknowledged by HF...the text itself puts HF into the scenario. If this were any other case...we would be all over the fact he was the last one to receive a communication not only from CM, but the accused EA.

IMO, this is a valuable point; ALL aspects of a missing person's life need to be analyzed with a fine tooth comb by LE and in my opinion, they have probably done so, and very early on. From what we know, CM contacted not only HF in the moments before she was last seen, but there was also a communication between her and SN, ALP, and just a few hours prior, PP; all of which have been scrutinized and discussed in the media. IMO, and only my opinion, I'm of the camp that wouldn't be surprised to find out the communication from EA's phone was in fact CM attempting to reach her boyfriend from an unknown number about a subject she knew her boyfriend cared very much about; the almighty dollar. Having studied linguistics, the structure of the text, as released implies female communication; it's indirect and is seeking permission ("could I get some of that good rock"), my educational experience indicate it is highly, highly likely it was written by a female; a male is typically going to be much more assertive in their requests (ex: lemme get some of that good rock, how much for the good rock, etc). Every time I read the quoted version of that text I picture a very astute, polite, well mannered female, drinking tea, pinkie up, stating "pardon me, could I perhaps bother you for a spot of that good rock?". Linguistically, I'm confident in the above analysis, however, in reality I could be totally wrong about it. It may have been EA. Pinkie up.

 

[jennapuppy]

IMO, this is a valuable point; ALL aspects of a missing person's life need to be analyzed with a fine tooth comb by LE and in my opinion, they have probably done so, and very early on. From what we know, CM contacted not only HF in the moments before she was last seen, but there was also a communication between her and SN, ALP, and just a few hours prior, PP; all of which have been scrutinized and discussed in the media. IMO, and only my opinion, I'm of the camp that wouldn't be surprised to find out the communication from EA's phone was in fact CM attempting to reach her boyfriend from an unknown number about a subject she knew her boyfriend cared very much about; the almighty dollar. Having studied linguistics, the structure of the text, as released implies female communication; it's indirect and is seeking permission ("could I get some of that good rock"), my educational experience indicate it is highly, highly likely it was written by a female; a male is typically going to be much more assertive in their requests (ex: lemme get some of that good rock, how much for the good rock, etc). Every time I read the quoted version of that text I picture a very astute, polite, well mannered female, drinking tea, pinkie up, stating "pardon me, could I perhaps bother you for a spot of that good rock?". Linguistically, I'm confident in the above analysis, however, in reality I could be totally wrong about it. It may have been EA. Pinkie up.

This post gave me a chuckle. You've made a good point that is definitely worth considering.