GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #39 *Arrest*

[SteveS]

Details. Yes that story was yucky from our perspective, but it was also consensual. Just like EA, who was also very much an adult preying on a minor, with behavior that demonstrated he knew he was breaking the law and trying to hide it. Felony sexual assault of a minor is the crime EA is charged with.

(And no, I don't believe the idea that every young adult male in Texas has sex with a 15 or 16 year old at some point; such predatory behavior is NOT the norm where I live, and I've known lots of young men that age in the last 10 years or so - I had boys and nephews that age, and knew lots of their friends).

 

[DexterMorgan]

I have always suspected this as well. I remember reading in several places that he took a road trip to some casino somewhere hours away, possibly NM? I forget but I know it was a casino and that seemed like a very opportunistic place to go if that was his intention.

It was also hours away where it would not be included in the search.

I do admit I stopped following the case so I'm not sure if this was already mentioned.

Her boyfriend did give him a 4 day headstart by not reporting Christina missing for 4 days. So he had more than enough time to back track and regroup. Jmo

 

[zippixx]

Her boyfriend did give him a 4 day headstart by not reporting Christina missing for 4 days. So he had more than enough time to back track and regroup. Jmo

The problem I keep having with the "4 days" is, EA did not know he had "4 days" until after the fact... For all he knew, he had 4 minutes... I see no possible way he could foresee the amount of time he had... Any number of people/relatives/friends could have (and maybe should have) noticed something was odd and reported it... but they didn't. EA knew her car was still in the garage & was probably in panic mode, waiting for the knock on the door or phone call.. (which eventually did happen) JMO

 

[SeriouslySearching]

The problem I keep having with the "4 days" is, EA did not know he had "4 days" until after the fact... For all he knew, he had 4 minutes... I see no possible way he could foresee the amount of time he had... Any number of people/relatives/friends could have (and maybe should have) noticed something was odd and reported it... but they didn't. EA knew her car was still in the garage & was probably in panic mode, waiting for the knock on the door or phone call.. (which eventually did happen) JMO

Do you know who he was in contact with during those 4 days? No? Hmmm...hard to tell what he knew and when he knew it.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I have always suspected this as well. I remember reading in several places that he took a road trip to some casino somewhere hours away, possibly NM? I forget but I know it was a casino and that seemed like a very opportunistic place to go if that was his intention.

It was also hours away where it would not be included in the search.

I do admit I stopped following the case so I'm not sure if this was already mentioned.

It was her boyfriend, Hunter, who drove with his dad to a casino in OK when putting up fliers in the days after she was reported missing finally.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Do you know who he was in contact with during those 4 days? No? Hmmm...hard to tell what he knew and when he knew it.

Agree. I think she rarely hung with the friends she was with that night. Plus EA knew her bf was a D..k H..d

So I think he knew he had more time when the friends from the party never contacted him about CM whereabouts. He also may have contacted them about bs just to see if they would bring up CM in the conversation.

 

[MzOpinion8d]

Christina was leaving voicemails and texting Hunter in the minutes before she entered the parking garage with EA. What EA knew is that Hunter expected her to arrive at home in approximately one hour. EA also knew CM was going home because she was due at work in a few hours (I don't remember what time she was expected at work, 10 am maybe?).

At most he thought he had about 5 hours before someone realized she wasn't where she was supposed to be.

He also knew that his phone was her last way of contacting people, and that he was known to be the last person seen with her by the party friends. He wasn't about to leisurely make disposal plans. He needed her gone and gone for good within a very short time frame.

He had NO reason to believe he'd have four days to hide her.

 

[zippixx]

Do you know who he was in contact with during those 4 days? No? Hmmm...hard to tell what he knew and when he knew it.

Agree. I think she rarely hung with the friends she was with that night. Plus EA knew her bf was a D..k H..d

So I think he knew he had more time when the friends from the party never contacted him about CM whereabouts. He also may have contacted them about bs just to see if they would bring up CM in the conversation.

Obviously, no.. I don't know who EA was in contact with. But I doubt he was talking to her brother, sister, step-mom, step-dad, mother, father, security people (at SAL), boss and other friends that had nothing to do with that party, or the people at that party. Any one of those people (and others) could have reported her missing and one of them eventually did. I will stand by what I stated: There is absolutely no way EA could have known that nobody would report her missing for 4 days (unless he has super-powers or is psychic).
JMO MOO IMO

 

[Bootsctr]

Ex-Ravens cheerleader Molly Shattuck must spend every other weekend in a Delaware work-release detention center for nearly two years, a judge decided in sentencing her for having raped a 15-year-old boy in Bethany Beach last summer.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...ed-for-raping-boy/ar-BBlY9sQ?ocid=mailsignout

Yes, let's call it what it is - Rape! If the girlfriend, a minor, in EA's case was living with EA and his family, I question the girl's mother decision to allow that scenario. Were there no girlfriends with whom her daughter could hang with/live with if they were having problems getting along? And when she turned 17, if she didn't like the situation she was in why stay? By the age of 13, I had learned not to put myself in situations where I would be alone with my abuser. In fact, by 14, I distanced myself from my entire family. By 16, when the creepy uncle tried to start his manipulation BS over the phone, I hung on him. Unless this girl was severely mentally challenged, and her mother, there were other options. To me, it seems as if her mother thought EA was a good catch for her daughter as she consented to the living arrangements.

I haven't seen any predatory behavior in boys in the age group of 15 to 16 that I know personally, but I have been witness to girls in the same age group that I do know personally being very cunning and wily in getting the guy they want. No, they're not... what some have referred to here as "jail bait"..., they are simply young people with hormones and they think they know what they want and they know how to get it. That's why they're minors and now allowed to make their own decisions. It's why we have parents.

The 48 y/o EX-cheerleader has some serious problems by plying the victim with alcohol and accosting him, a mere 15 y/o boy. He could very likely turn into a predator himself thanks to this perverted woman. She was probably a victim at some point in her life, but what she did was very, very wrong. Are we comparing apples to apples or apples to oranges here? It seems like we are taking one very rotten, maggot-ridden apple in the guise of sex-starved damaged goods and comparing it to just an apple. Kudos to the boy's parents for nipping her little "party" in the bud. I think the judge (Superior Court Judge E. Scott Bradley) went easy on her because she was a woman.

“Any adult who rapes a child deserves to be in prison,” the boy’s mother said in court. “Please hold her accountable.”

 

[pappa rob]

I hear the Mom crying rape where's the "boy" crying wolf or cougar . The 15 year old "boy" isn't hurting, he celebrating.

 

[zippixx]

Ex-Ravens cheerleader Molly Shattuck must spend every other weekend in a Delaware work-release detention center for nearly two years, a judge decided in sentencing her for having raped a 15-year-old boy in Bethany Beach last summer.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime...ed-for-raping-boy/ar-BBlY9sQ?ocid=mailsignout

Yes, let's call it what it is - Rape! If the girlfriend, a minor, in EA's case was living with EA and his family, I question the girl's mother decision to allow that scenario. Were there no girlfriends with whom her daughter could hang with/live with if they were having problems getting along? And when she turned 17, if she didn't like the situation she was in why stay? By the age of 13, I had learned not to put myself in situations where I would be alone with my abuser. In fact, by 14, I distanced myself from my entire family. By 16, when the creepy uncle tried to start his manipulation BS over the phone, I hung on him. Unless this girl was severely mentally challenged, and her mother, there were other options. To me, it seems as if her mother thought EA was a good catch for her daughter as she consented to the living arrangements.

I haven't seen any predatory behavior in boys in the age group of 15 to 16 that I know personally, but I have been witness to girls in the same age group that I do know personally being very cunning and wily in getting the guy they want. No, they're not... what some have referred to here as "jail bait"..., they are simply young people with hormones and they think they know what they want and they know how to get it. That's why they're minors and now allowed to make their own decisions. It's why we have parents.

The 48 y/o EX-cheerleader has some serious problems by plying the victim with alcohol and accosting him, a mere 15 y/o boy. He could very likely turn into a predator himself thanks to this perverted woman. She was probably a victim at some point in her life, but what she did was very, very wrong. Are we comparing apples to apples or apples to oranges here? It seems like we are taking one very rotten, maggot-ridden apple in the guise of sex-starved damaged goods and comparing it to just an apple. Kudos to the boy's parents for nipping her little "party" in the bud. I think the judge (Superior Court Judge E. Scott Bradley) went easy on her because she was a woman.

“Any adult who rapes a child deserves to be in prison,” the boy’s mother said in court. “Please hold her accountable.”

Good post, Boots.. The girl actually wasn't living at Arochi's house. She would occasionally spend the night. Supposedly they dated from Oct 2012-Feb 2013. The girl's mom found out about it in December, 2012..

http://starlocalmedia.com/allenamer...cle_e3f9523a-c139-11e4-a88c-6f908c6cec9e.html

 

[los2188]

Plano police to hold personal safety seminar in honor of missing woman

http://planoblog.dallasnews.com/201...afety-seminar-in-honor-of-missing-woman.html/

 

[Bootsctr]

Jared Fogle admitted to sex with minors but isn’t facing rape charges

Two of the victims, prosecutors said, were 16 when Fogle committed sex crimes against them. Fogle admitted to those charges and has agreed to plead guilty. But why wasn’t he charged with rape?

In many states, if a 37-year-old man victimizes a 16-year-old girl, it would be considered rape.

But the charges announced against Fogle this week were federal. And according to Tim Horty, a spokesman for the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of Indiana, there is no applicable federal law.

“There is no federal statute for rape in this situation that would have applied,” Horty said. “What always applies is that you cannot cross state lines to engage in commercial sex with anyone under 18.”

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ja...nors-but-isn’t-facing-rape-charges/ar-BBm5gqS

 

[Bootsctr]

My apologies for taking Christina's thread off topic. Where is Christina? Bring Nina home.

 

[Bootsctr]

There's a new drug in town:

'Flakka,' the new killer drug, is spreading across the country

"This is the worst drug I have ever seen in my 18 years of law enforcement across the board," said Johnny Bivens, sheriff of Lewis County, Ky. "Nothing compares to this."

Also known as alpha-PVP, it has a similar chemical makeup to other drugs commonly known as "bath salts," according to the National Institute on Drug Abuse.

It typically comes in a white or pink crystalline form and is foul-smelling. It can be eaten, snorted, injected, or vaporized in an electronic cigarette device, according to the national institute, which has included flakka on a list of emerging trends.

Authorities say flakka is easily accessible. It can be purchased online from China and in some parts of the United States has replaced crack cocaine.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fl...ug-is-spreading-across-the-country/ar-BBm2ICF

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Obviously, no.. I don't know who EA was in contact with. But I doubt he was talking to her brother, sister, step-mom, step-dad, mother, father, security people (at SAL), boss and other friends that had nothing to do with that party, or the people at that party. Any one of those people (and others) could have reported her missing and one of them eventually did. I will stand by what I stated: There is absolutely no way EA could have known that nobody would report her missing for 4 days (unless he has super-powers or is psychic).
JMO MOO IMO

You don't know he wasn't in touch with people from the party or even with HF. You can't base it on what you believe to be true because then it is wishful thinking. He could even be friends with someone else who is friends with those very people who was keeping him informed. It wouldn't take super powers or a psychic.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Christina was leaving voicemails and texting Hunter in the minutes before she entered the parking garage with EA. What EA knew is that Hunter expected her to arrive at home in approximately one hour. EA also knew CM was going home because she was due at work in a few hours (I don't remember what time she was expected at work, 10 am maybe?).

At most he thought he had about 5 hours before someone realized she wasn't where she was supposed to be.

He also knew that his phone was her last way of contacting people, and that he was known to be the last person seen with her by the party friends. He wasn't about to leisurely make disposal plans. He needed her gone and gone for good within a very short time frame.

He had NO reason to believe he'd have four days to hide her.

I disagree that EA knew HF expected her home in an hour. EA expected HF to tell him where to find drugs, but that was it.

 

[zippixx]

You don't know he wasn't in touch with people from the party or even with HF. You can't base it on what you believe to be true because then it is wishful thinking. He could even be friends with someone else who is friends with those very people who was keeping him informed. It wouldn't take super powers or a psychic.

I'm not saying he wasn't in touch with the party people.. they also had no idea when she would be reported missing.. nobody knew. Therefore, EA had no idea when she would be reported missing either. That seems like simple logic to me, not wishful thinking at all.. It would seem highly unlikely that EA was told "don't worry.. CM's dad isn't gonna call the cops until Tuesday evening, so you have 4 days" Too many people involved in CM's life, to assume nobody would notice she was missing. That is just not a chance he would have taken. JMO

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I'm not saying he wasn't in touch with the party people.. they also had no idea when she would be reported missing.. nobody knew. Therefore, EA had no idea when she would be reported missing either. That seems like simple logic to me, not wishful thinking at all.. It would seem highly unlikely that EA was told "don't worry.. CM's dad isn't gonna call the cops until Tuesday evening, so you have 4 days" Too many people involved in CM's life, to assume nobody would notice she was missing. That is just not a chance he would have taken. JMO

I disagree. His ego was such that he would take whatever chance because he never thought he would be found out, imo. The point is...if he was in touch with people and none of them realized she was missing...he would feel quite relieved with that information since they would be the first ones to be asked because too many knew she was out with them that night including HF.

 

[MzOpinion8d]

The fact remains that regardless of how much time EA may have thought he had to get rid of her, he KNEW he was the LAST PERSON TO SEE HER ALIVE and that he'd be the FIRST person people would be questioning.