GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #40 *Arrest*

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  • #521
I wish that Frisson was able to elaborate on his theory, perhaps he/she will. I'm going to be curious as hell when the trial starts. The Feds seem to have one other person locked away indefinitely, so if there is another player, he would be my guess. I really am doubting that there is another involved however, the state hasn't mentioned anyone else and the community was never put on alert. Plus, the smile in the courtroom tells me that he is guilty and that EA knows that the only power that he has left in his life is to hold the information of CM's location back. He may hope that he can negotiate with it or gain some type of pleasure in punishing CM's family.

So, that location seems reasonable. I also think that she may be in the most likely spot on Earth, like C Tennyson. My guesses would be in a green space around Shops at Legacy or the huge green space close to his home, Oak Point park/Bob Woodruff park.

I wish I were able to as well. I just think there is more to this story than has been put forth so far. There are some pertinent pieces....details missing (imo) Does that help?

Justice for Christina.
 
  • #522
I wish I were able to as well. I just think there is more to this story than has been put forth so far. There are some pertinent pieces....details missing (imo) Does that help?

Justice for Christina.

Is that a gut feeling or do have inside info? You are of course entitled to your opinion and there's nothing wrong with you thinking that but right now there is some pretty damning evidence against him and unless those missing details come forward I think he's toast.
 
  • #523
I agree, the Granite Parkway dumpsters are my best guess but sadly that would be the worst possible location for her because that would mean them never finding CM body giving EA an easier ride out of prison in x amount of years instead of him dying in there.

I hold out hope that a conviction for AK will have the jury in the penalty phase considering

1 as a result of EA's actions (the AK) she hasn't been seen or heard from again,
2 since she hasn't ever come back it makes the AK crime one that is ongoing,
3 EA's smirks and attitude show no remorse, and likelihood of repeating against some other prey, if released, and
4 therefore justice means he stays locked away until she returns, life for a life essentially

They can lock him away for 99 years. I've seen no reason he should get less.
 
  • #524
I wish I were able to as well. I just think there is more to this story than has been put forth so far. There are some pertinent pieces....details missing (imo) Does that help?

Justice for Christina.
There is no shortage of missing details and no shortage of sketchy characters so I don't know where to start. The list of subpoenas is extensive, mostly names that I don't recognize. I did notice a recent subpoena from an attorney who has now lost his license, so the plot thickens a little.

I guess we'll just have to wait until trial to learn how compelling the defense is.
 
  • #525
Just did a little checking and the discipline of the attorney appears unrelated to anything here, just FYI.
 
  • #526
Is that a gut feeling or do have inside info? You are of course entitled to your opinion and there's nothing wrong with you thinking that but right now there is some pretty damning evidence against him and unless those missing details come forward I think he's toast.

He may indeed be toast, but I will wait and see. I simply think there is more to the story. That's all.
 
  • #527
Regarding looking at catpatrol's "Find Christina Map" while imagining EA driving along 121: I did have a moment of eerie. I was "driving" in street view and got to one spot along the road I had noticed in the satellite view. And there were tracks going over the curb and down into the trees. Kinda gave me a start, like the image had been taken just after someone drove off-road there. (Didn't look like an accident, either.)

I tried getting back on the map so I could pinpoint the area for this post, but couldn't get to street view. I'm on my iPad mini and I'm not nearly as adept working it as I am my laptop. :(
 
  • #528
Regarding looking at catpatrol's "Find Christina Map" while imagining EA driving along 121: I did have a moment of eerie. I was "driving" in street view and got to one spot along the road I had noticed in the satellite view. And there were tracks going over the curb and down into the trees. Kinda gave me a start, like the image had been taken just after someone drove off-road there. (Didn't look like an accident, either.)

I tried getting back on the map so I could pinpoint the area for this post, but couldn't get to street view. I'm on my iPad mini and I'm not nearly as adept working it as I am my laptop. :(
If you do figure it out can you post a link please. TIA. I am terrible with google maps.

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  • #529
Don't feel foolish for critically thinking this through.

I agree with a lot of your thoughts here.

I don't necessary agree with the theory that she was killed in the garage though. My guess is that the attack took place inside the front of the Camaro near Custer Road. Here, I believe Morris realized Arochi didn't intend to drive her home, but intended to rape her (as Jonnie now believes occurred). I'd guess that the injuries to Arochi's right arm were due to Morris's scratches or bites. Also, I'd guess the injuries to Arochi's ribs/abdomen, where due to kicks by Morris. I believe Morris died within a few minutes drive (a few miles) of the Custer Road gantry at about 4:15 am. I believe after her death, Arochi moved Morris's body to the trunk, before her drove back on HW 121 to north of Shops at Legacy. So, in my theory, the trip back was not just to dispose of Morris's purse and phone, but also with Morris's body. As you thought above, I agree that Arochi likely would want to get rid of all evidence ASAP. I believe he did that in the garbage dumpsters north of the SAL. Sadly, I don't think the police have tried to check this including seeing where this garbage was processed and ultimately buried. My guess is that the phone, purse, Morris's body, and Arochi's blanket are all there.

Interesting thoughts.

Without laying out the entire theory;
Considering the items recovered by LE from Arochis' garbage on two different occasions.
The first collection produced cleaning supplies and several rags and towels.
The second collection reportedly produced two jugs of concentrated cleaner w/ each bottle capable of producing 32 gal of cleaner..
..not sure of the time in between collections.

This makes me think that Arochi cleaned the vehicle first and in the days following CM's murder he concealed the body.
He could have used the missing blanket to wrap her remains in, soaked the blanket in the concentrated cleaner in an attempt to mask the scent of cadaver and then bury the remains.
This scenario leaves to question the purpose for the return trip to the Shoppes area within an hour of leaving there and the cell pings w/ a 9 min time lapse between.
And if not to get rid of evidence then what? Maybe just to dump the phone and purse Maybe an attempt or more than one attempt to use CM's bank card for cash withdraw?..idk
Didn't LE say they think he took her all the way to his house in the trunk of the car?
 
  • #530
All the recent ideas are interesting.

My earliest working hypothesis - and one that would readily explain the return to the Shops - was that they left with CM having willingly entered EA's car, the purpose being to go somewhere for some reason. Such as, get some coffee or Adderall or something to help her wake up for her drive to FW, or for a quick late bite of food, or who knows. And in EA's mind is an intent to make a "move." So maybe she declines, and then when they near the Shops area again he realizes it is his "last chance" and asks again, hears "no" again, and he goes to stop in a dark area anyhow. She resists, grabs steering wheel, the car veers into something, he gets pissed, a struggle ensues, and he does who knows what to her and puts her in the trunk unconscious, dead, or dying. He also takes out her phone and stuff and discards it in a dumpster. Then she is in his trunk for some period of time, after which he takes her out of his trunk sometime after that, some place after that, both time and place unknown.

The point being, one way to explain the return to the Shops is if she was okay and was being returned to her car supposedly, and then things go awry when EA's agenda for a sex-laden detour doesn't go as he intends.

But, we may never know the answer to those sort of details. And it doesn't really have to be proven exactly when she was put in his trunk, or why he went back to the Shops ....because whenever it was, EA did put her IN HIS TRUNK at some point, certainly without her permission and not possibly for her welfare, and there's your kidnapping.
 
  • #531
It doesn't take 9 mins plus to drop a phone and purse in a dumpster. 5800 Granite is North of Shops. Any idea where closest tower is? This was the last response from Christina's phone right? There are several bodies of water at 5800 Granite.uploadfromtaptalk1459238872361.jpg
 
  • #532
No check of drive times, I'm not from there, and didn't do the math for mileage.

I just tried to put myself in the mind of a young adult who has a dead person in his trunk, and imagined he would want to rid himself of the dead person asap. He chooses to exit after Custer Road because he's noticed some green spaces as he was driving along Sam Rayburn and didn't want to pass them all.

Once on 121, I imagined EA frantically looking for any place he could pull into the woods and get that dead person out of his trunk.

Rowlett Creek area has what looks like a bike or walking path running to the south and a track that runs through the woods and comes out on an easy-west street to the south (sorry, can't remember the name, and when I previously tried to post a reply and looked at my other tab with the map, I was booted and lost my post).

Watters Creek, too, has some tracks and entry areas, as well as what looks like a structure in one wooded area.

I just don't think he took her very far once she was dead. He would have wanted her out of his car NOW.

I am puzzled as to why he would return to that area north of the Shops, but maybe he intended to dump CM's purse, phone, etc., back by her car and couldn't get that close for some reason.

I wish we we knew if more phone pings are recorded--I feel a little foolish thinking I can make any sense of Christina's disappearance by looking at a map and imagining scenarios.

And yet, here I am. Reading and wondering and praying for CM's family since the beginning of this tragedy.

I've been following the Adriana Coronado case almost exclusively the last week, so I was surprised to see things moving the last few days.

This is one of my theories about how it might have occurred. I don't believe EA had prior experience with an event such as this. The first thought is that he has to get rid of a body and the sooner the better. Why Christina hasn't been found is pure, dumb luck on his part because I certainly don't see him as some criminal mastermind. I thought I remembered a testimony in an earlier hearing (bond hearing?) that either the crime scene tech or the detective believed that when EA left the garage they believed Christina was already in the trunk of his car.

In any event, I believe any disposing of evidence (purse, cell phone, etc.) and a body was done before 0700. Why he took the route he took (i.e., returning to the shops) is a mystery to me, maybe he drove roads he was familiar with while looking for disposal locations. Why he stopped for a time at any point along the way is also a mystery to me. I don't believe he stopped long enough to commit any act against Christina except to kill her. Any other act seems like it would have taken longer. He could have simply stopped to calm down and think exclusively on the problem instead of trying to think about it while driving.

I just wish they would find her before the trial.
 
  • #533
It doesn't take 9 mins plus to drop a phone and purse in a dumpster. 5800 Granite is North of Shops. Any idea where closest tower is? This was the last response from Christina's phone right? There are several bodies of water at 5800 Granite.View attachment 91217

I think it was reported that 5800 Granite is the location of the tower that the phones pinged.
I'm not sure the phones had to be at the exact tower location per say to ping. Nor do I think that the pings are always an indication of a stopping point...but could be. As how sometimes a phone will lose signal while in route and upon stopping momentarily (at location, a stoplight, etc) regains signal.
Maybe entering and exiting of a dead air space while in route to and from a stopping point caused the pings. Different phones..different technologies..one pings in route one direction and one the other.
IDK..but i think we're getting closer to finder CM...seeing some good ideas.
 
  • #534
I think the phones being wiped clean suggests that there was someone else involved. Perhaps, I believe that person is in jail right now. I have faith that LE knows more than we do. At this point, I have to.

Unfortunately, the scene Christina was in was a very scary one--I mean we are talking drug rings, sex workers, long time addicts, thieves, etc... She didn't belong there. You wouldn't want anyone you love to be caught up in that world. Sigh...

I wish we could find her before the trial, too.

Oh, does anyone know where we can watch the Dr. Phil show with Jonni?
 
  • #535
I believe this is the full episode:

[video=youtube;GPfZ_R0tBso]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPfZ_R0tBso[/video]




I think the phones being wiped clean suggests that there was someone else involved. Perhaps, I believe that person is in jail right now. I have faith that LE knows more than we do. At this point, I have to.

Unfortunately, the scene Christina was in was a very scary one--I mean we are talking drug rings, sex workers, long time addicts, thieves, etc... She didn't belong there. You wouldn't want anyone you love to be caught up in that world. Sigh...

I wish we could find her before the trial, too.

Oh, does anyone know where we can watch the Dr. Phil show with Jonni?
 
  • #536
The phones being wiped does seem to imply EA was hiding something or someone.

As to the idea of whether it was a "someone else" (rather than some info EA doesn't want known) that EA was trying to hide, that's always possible. But my impression of EA is that if there was someone else to blame, he'd have been rushing to swap that info for a reduced charge the day he was arrested and locked up. He doesn't strike me as one willing to take one for the team, while the other(s) involved go free. Quite the opposite, frankly.

In any event, whatever (or whoever) he is hiding, if anything, only goes to further underscore EA being right in the middle of whatever happened, and knowing whatever there is to know about what happened to CM. It was his car, IN HIS TRUNK, where CM's DNA and blood was found, and no way someone else was driving that car with her in it. Even if there are others as well, he's a predator multiple times over, and need to take him off the streets for good for the protection of your daughters, sisters, nieces, and female friends as well as mine.
 
  • #537
Thank you so much, JMOM! I appreciate it. I'll watch it this afternoon. My heart breaks for her family and loved ones. I hope you are holding up ok. I know how hard this has been.

I should reiterate that just because I think there may be someone else involved does not mean that I think Enrique is innocent. I don't think we can know if he's implicated anyone else in this crime yet. I wouldn't be surprised if he has thrown everyone he knows on the chopping block. We will see what happens at the trial.

My main concern is finding Christina. I want anyone that was involved in her disappearance to be held accountable. I want the truth. I hope we get it soon.
 
  • #538
"I want anyone that was involved in her disappearance to be held accountable. I want the truth."

Agreed. I think we all want that. I focus solely on EA because I am a "bird in the hand" type, and don't want him to get off easy for this horrendous crime, as a result of losing our focus on what he did in a desire to see if there are others too. (There is no question in my mind some, including EA's attys, would try to use involvement of others, if it were discovered, to lessen EA's culpability. Even though EA was unquestionably the last person she was ever seen with, and even though her DNA and blood was found IN HIS TRUNK.)

That's not to say that I want others to skate, if involved. Not in the least. But imo it is two separate cases in a way, the case of EA doing what he did to CM and being locked up for good for doing so, and the case of exploring for possible (but not certain) involvement of others. Who knows, if EA gets sentenced to 99 years and he knows of others, he might opt to talk at that point so he won't be there alone. I say let's take the next few months, get him the 99 years he worked for, and see what results. :-)
 
  • #539
03/28/2016
Motion

Comments:
Motion To Suppress: Defendant's Cell phone Records and Historical Cell Tower Data by Warrant of December 12, 2014



03/24/2016
Motion

Comments:
Motion to Suppress Evidence and Records Obtained by Court Order Concerning a Cellular Phone Number Allegedly Associated with the Defendant's Cell Phone Use



03/28/2016
Motion

Comments:
Motion To Suppress: Defendant's Cell phone Records and Historical Cell Tower Data by Warrant of September 6, 2014 and November 9, 2014




https://apps.collincountytx.gov/JudicialRecords/Case/1387104/100/Other|Inmate Detail
 
  • #540
It would be interesting to see the basis of the defense's motion to toss that evidence. No way to tell for sure without access to the wording of the motion itself, but from what we've already seen of this case, I'm guessing they are arguing that something in the basis or wording of the very first request for a warrant - which was then copied verbatim into later ones - was amiss in some way.

Losing any evidence is certainly concerning, if it happens, and there can be a ripple effect too. This is only a motion, of course, and could easily be denied.

But IMO even if granted, evidence suppression won't risk crippling the case against EA and letting this predator of females walk free until and unless something endangers the admissibility of one or both of the two central pieces: the video of them walking into the garage together, and the DNA/blood evidence of him having her in his trunk. As long as those remain intact, I think they can hang him, and for a long sentence. And it's comforting to know they have him lined up for a second predator charge after this one, just in case another is unexpectedly needed to keep this dirtbag off the streets and away from other potential victims.
 
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