GUILTY TX - Christina Morris, 23, Plano, 30 August 2014 - #7 *Arrest*

[Woe.be.gone]

I guess usually .. but I for one have never kept mine together for over 20 plus years.
my thinking is I would not want to lose both at the same time if I lost or misplaced them

Respectfully - this is an example (unless we're all just chatting which is allowed). It doesn't matter about percentages what you or I do. LE has to get to the bottom of what Christina does and specifically did that night.

It's very difficult for most of us to separate what we think, what is most common for people to do/act.
That's why, for example, suicide cases are so difficult for me to accept after the COD is determined.
I think (who knows what lies ahead in anyone's life?) I'd never choose that route - it would have to be really, really bad and God help me I don't want to go there. If you've had cancer, you're trying to live!

That is why the camera subject had me all excited. It represents concrete evidence pointing LE in a direction if they have facts to back up where the camera was when Christina was on video with walking guy.

 

[txyorkiemom]

LOL. They could be warrants for toll tag fees. They started issuing warrants for anyone that hadn't paid them. Some people don't seem to know they owe possibly because they had moved.

Oh yes ..the infamous NTTA ... good grief.

a few years back I had sold a vehicle ...signed over clear title with bill of sale and canx the insur on the vehicle ... well wouldn't ya know about 6 mos later I was getting all kinds of letters demanding payment.. for $100's of dollars worth of charges on this vehicle occurring about a month after I sold it... well long story short it just got resolved this year...took that long to clear myself off the want list. It was a mess

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Has the possibility of two cameras been ruled out? ty

LE doesn't say anything. We don't know if the camera (larger one) is on a strap hanging and visible on Christina.
That's the point. If the camera was with her or not is the issue.

Sure, she may have two cameras. Only the one camera is important to the case because it can't be around her neck and at her house at the same time.

 

[txyorkiemom]

Respectfully - this is an example (unless we're all just chatting which is allowed). It doesn't matter about percentages what you or I do. LE has to get to the bottom of what Christina does and specifically did that night.

It's very difficult for most of us to separate what we think, what is most common for people to do/act.
That's why, for example, suicide cases are so difficult for me to accept after the COD is determined.
I think (who knows what lies ahead in anyone's life?) I'd never choose that route - it would have to be really, really bad and God help me I don't want to go there. If you've had cancer, you're trying to live!

That is why the camera subject had me all excited. It represents concrete evidence pointing LE in a direction if they have facts to back up where the camera was when Christina was on video with walking guy.

???? I am sorry but I am not following you in response to me stating that in 20plus years I personally do not keep house keys and car keys together because I would not want to lose both at the same time. ..but that is just me.
this was the convo I responded to here:thinkingg 30
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...lano-30-August-2014-7&p=11027862#post11027862

 

[Woe.be.gone]

OT/
If in fact these are for traffic tickets and many have traffic related issues..some may be bogus some may be legit.
most will show outstanding balances if they are being disputed with legal representation.
some will also be clerical error or error in identity as well.. there very could be a whole list of reasons they go unpaid.

Sure, I really don't care that much about the warrants. I was trying to figure out if Texas posts outstanding warrants involving crime cases (when a case isn't sealed). On other cases, there always seems to be a talented sleuther who knows how to look government stuff up and reveals it. Or, sometimes local reporters get a hold of the info somehow - investigative reporters. When that happens, it gives us an idea the direction police are looking.
Usually though there's a news crew filming LE as they're bringing bags of stuff out of a suspect's house.

I'm not really sure how many warrants police might obtain surrounding a case the public never knew about.
Especially if people aren't checking for them.

 

[volcarm]

What does OT stand for?

 

[Suthrnqt]

What does OT stand for?

OT = Off Topic

 

[volcarm]

OT = Off Topic

Thank u

 

[Mountain Misst]

???? I am sorry but I am not following you in response to me stating that in 20plus years I personally do not keep house keys and car keys together because I would not want to lose both at the same time. ..but that is just me.
this was the convo I responded to here:thinkingg 30
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...lano-30-August-2014-7&p=11027862#post11027862

In CM's car, if the ignition is low-set, then a bunch of keys could be banging against her leg, creating a distraction, laddering stockings/leggings etc etc. It's happened to me.

I can also remember being told not to have a bunch of keys together with the car key as it can put a weight on the ignition key; creating problems.
IMO, there are probably as many theories, as there are keys. What we need is a key to solve this case...

 

[txyorkiemom]

In CM's car, if the ignition is low-set, then a bunch of keys could be banging against her leg, creating a distraction, laddering stockings/leggings etc etc. It's happened to me.

I can also remember being told not to have a bunch of keys together with the car key as it can put a weight on the ignition key; creating problems.
IMO, there are probably as many theories, as there are keys. What we need is a key to solve this case...

Yup I have heard that too many keys in an ignition can cause problems as well ..I am not sure what the mechanical term is for it

oops let me be clear.. the weight of too many keys and key rings decorations hanging off the starter key in the ignition switch

 

[Breazy]

Just out of curiosity ...
I know police found her car quickly locked and parked..

I wonder if anything was or had been removed since it had been sitting unattended for near 5 days??

Do we know for sure it was locked? I know it seems logical that it would be but was it??

Still here guys :seeya: Catching up... Now y'all got me leaning to BF. At this point and the very little we know, could be either garage guy, bf or somebody off the radar we know nothing about. Sadly, I worry we'll never know. Ugh!!

 

[txyorkiemom]

This report has me confused as well ...is this correct??

http://dallas.culturemap.com/news/c...stina-morris-missing-person-equusearch-drone/

Surveillance video shows Christina left a friend's apartment at the Shops at Legacy in Plano around 4 am on Labor Day weekend. Since then, no one has seen or heard from her. Calls to Christina's cellphone go straight to voicemail, there's been no activity on her bank account and her car was found nearby without any signs of foul play.

 

[mck16]

LE doesn't say anything. We don't know if the camera (larger one) is on a strap hanging and visible on Christina.
That's the point. If the camera was with her or not is the issue.

Sure, she may have two cameras. Only the one camera is important to the case because it can't be around her neck and at her house at the same time.

That was my point,I think. Maybe THE camera was one type to her friends and another type to her father. That's all. jmo

 

[txyorkiemom]

Do we know for sure it was locked? I know it seems logical that it would be but was it??

Still here guys :seeya: Catching up... Now y'all got me leaning to BF. At this point and the very little we know, could be either garage guy, bf or somebody off the radar we know nothing about. Sadly, I worry we'll never know. Ugh!!

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/09/0...nd-daughter-who-vanished-texas-parking-garage

Surveillance video shows Morris and a friend walking to their cars before going their separate ways. The friend who was with her is not being treated as a person of interest.

Morris’ car was found in the parking garage, still locked, but there was no sign of her. Police said they had "a lot of catching up to do" because Morris was not reported missing for four days

 

[CookieM]

Yup I have heard that too many keys in an ignition can cause problems as well ..I am not sure what the mechanical term is for it

oops let me be clear.. the weight of too many keys and key rings decorations hanging off the starter key in the ignition switch

What's interesting is that in the one picture that we DO see of her wearing keys around her neck. She has what looks like two keys. I wonder if she normally carried a lot of keys.

It's just interesting only because we are left to wonder about the last couple texts that her mom reported that she sent. Did she misplace the keys? Or was she trying to incite a response from her boyfriend. Did her friends know she lost her keys? I would think not or I would think they would have relayed that to LE or her mom way before mom found out the content of the texts! That sounds like a major bit of info if you ask me!

To clarify (I hit send too soon) I'm not saying that because she has keys on a ribbon around her neck in that ONE pic she wore them like that all the time. Again this is just conflicting info. Like much we hear in this case... But I would expect her live in bf would be able to report if she wore her keys around her neck or if she kept her house key and car key together. I mean he would know her better than anyone I would think, right ?

 

[txyorkiemom]

Do we know for sure it was locked? I know it seems logical that it would be but was it??

Still here guys :seeya: Catching up... Now y'all got me leaning to BF. At this point and the very little we know, could be either garage guy, bf or somebody off the radar we know nothing about. Sadly, I worry we'll never know. Ugh!!

Well I had made an observation early this morning and I am not sure if it is because at this point I am trying to be objective and take the emotions out of it..


http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Search-Efforts-Continue-for-Missing-Fort-Worth-Woman-274404321.html

Steven Nickerson was with Morris before she went missing and said she seemed a little upset that

night, but he didn't know what was wrong. He said she insisted on driving back home to Fort

Worth, but he never realized it would be the last time he saw her before she was reported

missing.

My observation is ... he is the 1 person that knew she was insisting on driving back home to Ft Worth ...when every one else thought she was going to stay over.. he knew she would be having to go back to her car in order to make that drive ..as she told him her plan.
I have not heard anyone else stating this directly that was there with her that night.
If they have ..I missed it somewhere.

 

[mck16]

To me her not having her car keys is not logical. That would be the first thing I would tell my bf. No house key would be a moot point without transportation to get to the house. So, she either had her car keys or she had arranged a ride. jmo

 

[CookieM]

Well I had made an observation early this morning and I am not sure if it is because at this point I am trying to be objective and take the emotions out of it..


http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Search-Efforts-Continue-for-Missing-Fort-Worth-Woman-274404321.html

Steven Nickerson was with Morris before she went missing and said she seemed a little upset that

night, but he didn't know what was wrong. He said she insisted on driving back home to Fort

Worth, but he never realized it would be the last time he saw her before she was reported

missing.

My observation is ... he is the 1 person that knew she was insisting on driving back home to Ft Worth ...when every one else thought she was going to stay over.. he knew she would be having to go back to her car in order to make that drive ..as she told him her plan.
I have not heard anyone else stating this directly that was there with her that night.
If they have ..I missed it somewhere.

To be honest we haven't heard any statements from ANY of the other ppl who were with her that night. We have seen reported that she was with 4-5 friends at the apt that night. We don't even know if SN was at the apartment or if he saw her earlier in the evening. All we know is he saw her that night before she went missing. I would guess that some of the people in her "friends video" were there that night but we don't know who specifically or what they said to LE. Wish we did.

 

[Dion]

Why did Christina leave her friend's apartment?
She had planned on staying overnight, but changed her mind. In my mind it's not clear why she really left.

• Did she want to pick up her dog? I don't buy this excuse at all - why not wait until morning.
• Was she planning on sleeping on the couch, but people were showing no sign of leaving at 3:30am and she was tired and wanted to sleep?
• Did she decide to leave, believing she would have an escort (all the way!!!) to her car, as she would not contemplate walking there by herself at that time of night?
• Did she inform anyone else (personally or by text) that she was intending to leave to drive home, and if so, would that person have had time to either drive to the garage and wait for her, or otherwise intercept her without the "walker" seeing or hearing anything?
• Did she lose her car keys? I doubt it - why would she leave to drive home if she had no car keys. She would stay the night and sort out things in the morning, ie call around to places she had been the night before - Henry's bar and the restaurant where they ate. The "house keys text" was sent around the time she left the friend's apartment, so she must have done a key check at that time or earlier. It makes no sense that she realized she had mislaid/lost her house keys, only to get to her car and realize that she had also lost her car keys!

 

[txyorkiemom]

What's interesting is that in the one picture that we DO see of her wearing keys around her neck. She has what looks like two keys. I wonder if she normally carried a lot of keys.

It's just interesting only because we are left to wonder about the last couple texts that her mom reported that she sent. Did she misplace the keys? Or was she trying to incite a response from her boyfriend. Did her friends know she lost her keys? I would think not or I would think they would have relayed that to LE or her mom way before mom found out the content of the texts! That sounds like a major bit of info if you ask me!

To clarify (I hit send too soon) I'm not saying that because she has keys on a ribbon around her neck in that ONE pic she wore them like that all the time. Again this is just conflicting info. Like much we hear in this case... But I would expect her live in bf would be able to report if she wore her keys around her neck or if she kept her house key and car key together. I mean he would know her better than anyone I would think, right ?

Yup ... he should know almost everything ..including where important things are kept,how she liked her eggs,what kind of fabric softner and toothpaste to get at the store,if there are extra sets of keys for the house,vehicles,passwords etc.