Found Deceased TX - Crystal Seratte McDowell, 38, Baytown, 25 Aug 2017 #3 *Arrest*

[EmmieA]

Replying to Gooddeeds (forgot to include her OP)... I think you're talking about the wording LE used re several romantic partners and inappropriate relationships? I don't agree that it's unprofessional. It may well be fact. And even if it is indeed fact, that doesn't mean I'm judging her for her private life. For all we know LE has carefully chosen those words bc they might trigger something or someone.

 

[Gooddeeds]

<mod snip> LE hasn't done anything wrong in terms of what they have said. How are you so sure that she wasn't hooking up with multiple people? What if what they said was the nicest way to say that she has a lot of scandalous skeletons in her closet? We don't know her. Not even her own family knows what she does in her personal life. Why would an adult tell everyone what they do or don't do?

-Several Romantic Relationships
-An inappropriate relationship (alluding to)

These above are the two we hashed out the most, though there a few others.

We don't know her. They don't know her either. Why would LE say anything at this point in time without actual proof? At best, the terms, 'alleged' should be in place. Or, 'we have had many witnesses come forth allegedly in regards to an inappropriate relationship', including the several romantic relationships going on'. Otherwise they are planting thoughts to run on. It only serves to hurt, and my concern is the children. There is enough to deal with.

Nothing to debate, just my personal opinion.

 

[Gooddeeds]

Yes Pamelado, AND *EMMIEA: meant to reference you *both.

Correct, these are the things we discussed. Because why introduce that when it could mean his side, her side, OR NEITHER! We DONT KNOW! And if they do, and they feel it is critical to speak out about, then best to be FACT CHECKED with credible witnesses and don't split words. Its sad messy reporting in MO.

 

[EmmieA]

The last day she was heard from everyone is preparing for the hurricane. How does that (or does that) play into her disappearance? Seems like a lot of people were off work or were on different schedules, more people out & about buying supplies, making preparations, etc. The general mood in the area was probably tense? Did the impending storm trigger something? (Probably not but just trying to think beyond EX & BF)

 

[Hoosier952]

Not that I know of. My point was that if LE told the family to shush, why wouldn't they tell BF the same thing? Maybe they want him talking for some reason.

The only family member we've heard from is the uncle who I believe quickly pointed fingers at the ex. I wouldn't be surprised if other family members might do the same. LE may not want that if they have suspicions when it comes to the ex. Especially if there is some huge piece of information that paints ex in a very negative light.

From what I saw, it seemed as though it was the ex's family/friends who weren't aware of the divorce, but is the same true for Crystal's family? If she was the one who filed for divorce both times, it would be reasonable to assume she was the one that was unhappy. She may have been complaining about the ex to family/friends for the last 10 years. It would stand to reason there were some red flag behaviors brought up over 10 years. I cannot imagine an unhappy marriage not having a few. But those are the things that stand out and are easily remembered.

There's also a possibility that family knows way more than the BF and they don't want any important information being leaked.

 

[Theworldterrifiesme]

What I have trouble with is that she text her Ex saying she'd be there , they'd wait out the weather bc it seemed as if it'd just be rain &about the water and in that same brief exchange I thought he said meet me at pbp or whatever his place of employment is- but zero nothing else until after 11 and then it's about the dishwasher. Am I missing something? I think I have to be -so please refresh my memory . You'd think he'd text her angry asking why she didn't show or be worried or both. If she was someone who didn't have a history of not showing up when she suppose to I'd think alarm bells would go off. But he wasn't angry, he wasn't worried, he wasn't anything until after 11 when he said about the dishwasher finally being dropped off. His boss said he called in and at that point he said don't worry about coming in bc of the weather no one else is......wouldn't he need to tell her he I'm not working after all. What about I'm waiting on you with the kids in the parking lot where are you? I'm also not saying he did anything to her bc I don't actually know of course I just think it's odd.

 

[FlossyMay]

I don't think they were implying that she was involved in something inappropriate, but more like someone may have perceived it as inappropriate. Let's remember that she is a grown, single woman and there is absolutely nothing wrong with dating more than one person. Why in the world would any of that be slanderous? I don't get it.

 

[EmmieA]

We don't know what proof LE has, nor are they obligated to give the public proof of anything right now. This isn't a trial, it's a missing persons case. Most of the time LE knows what they're doing and only say what they want the suspect/s to hear -- so you might be surprised how their quotes fit into the final narrative.

 

[Gardener1850]

-Several Romantic Relationships
-An inappropriate relationship (alluding to)

These above are the two we hashed out the most, though there a few others.

We don't know her. They don't know her either. Why would LE say anything at this point in time without actual proof? At best, the terms, 'alleged' should be in place. Or, 'we have had many witnesses come forth allegedly in regards to an inappropriate relationship', including the several romantic relationships going on'. Otherwise they are planting thoughts to run on. It only serves to hurt, and my concern is the children. There is enough to deal with.

Nothing to debate, just my personal opinion.

The sheriff did NOT say she was in an inappropriate relationship. He was talking about the possible motive for a perp. He was suggesting that whomever harmed Crystal may have THOUGHT she was in an inappropriate romantic relationship. This is pointing a big red arrow at the SUSPECT, not at Crystal--the actual nature of her relationship is not important, it's how the suspect may have perceived her relationship. We don't have a named suspect but this is a big clue from LE, IMO, as to who they are examining closely.

 

[EmmieA]

What I have trouble with is that she text her Ex saying she'd be there , they'd wait out the weather bc it seemed as if it'd just be rain &about the water and in that same brief exchange I thought he said meet me at pbp or whatever his place of employment is- but zero nothing else until after 11 and then it's about the dishwasher. Am I missing something? I think I have to be -so please refresh my memory . You'd think he'd text her angry asking why she didn't show or be worried or both. If she was someone who didn't have a history of not showing up when she suppose to I'd think alarm bells would go off. But he wasn't angry, he wasn't worried, he wasn't anything until after 11 when he said about the dishwasher finally being dropped off. His boss said he called in and at that point he said don't worry about coming in bc of the weather no one else is......wouldn't he need to tell her he I'm not working after all. What about I'm waiting on you with the kids in the parking lot where are you? I'm also not saying he did anything to her bc I don't actually know of course I just think it's odd.

I think the missing piece here is we don't know about phone calls. He might have called her between texts -- but that's just not info we're privy to. (Or at least I haven't seen anything about calls; please correct me if I'm wrong)

 

[Gooddeeds]

I'm not speaking about Crystal at all. It matters not what Crystal did in her personal life.

I'm solely speaking about by 'who and what' standards are the LE categorizing terms.

We discussed:
by what general consensus is *Several* ??? Is it 3 or more? Who knows because there is no set standard?!
Few, Many, More than one...

an inappropriate relationship? Even here where it was stated as a possible motive...they have caused more harm by inserting strong terms.

 

[Gardener1850]

Not that I know of. My point was that if LE told the family to shush, why wouldn't they tell BF the same thing? Maybe they want him talking for some reason.

My guess on this is that LE hasn't told him to shush because LE is not sharing any info with him. LE likely shares some info with her family, plus the family hired a PI who is working with LE. Family has the added benefit of getting updates from the PI that the public doesn't know about. BF doesn't know anything except what he can gather from his surveillance cameras and the news--unless of course he was involved in disappearing Crystal. Letting him talk is a bonus for LE because if he says something that he could only know from being involved, LE can nail him. I personally don't think he is involved because he continues to talk to the press with not much new info. The ex, on the other hand, has been completely silent. :thinking:

 

[Gardener1850]

I'm not speaking about Crystal at all. It matters not what Crystal did in her personal life.

I'm solely speaking about by 'who and what' standards are the LE categorizing terms.

We discussed:
by what general consensus is *Several* ??? Is it 3 or more? Who knows because there is no set standard?!
Few, Many, More than one...

an inappropriate relationship? Even here where it was stated as a possible motive...they have caused more harm by inserting strong terms.

Sorry, I'm not following you at all.

 

[Gooddeeds]

Anything that is reported as falsified, embellished and improperly perceived versus the facts is considered Slander.

I'm not labeling her or anything she did as Slanderous at all. I'm referencing the opposite in what is being termed loosely.

 

[SuperTmo]

BBM above

Wonder if she had to stop by the office (but which office??)...before her day began??? Would that be typical behavior for a R/E agent???

:thinking:

My friend is a real estate agent and she is always running to her office for this or that. Maybe Crystal had to stop and get some paperwork or something? Maybe stuff to bring home so she could still get some stuff done before / during the storm?

 

[Gooddeeds]

If I were missing and the media claimed I had *several* romantic relationships:

What if I had 4? Who cares right?! Its my business.

What is the LE definition of Several? Are they going off of the Dictionary meaning or what they feel is justified as Several? Objection your Honor...

Everything is relative and if a person wants to date several at one time it makes no difference.

 

[Gardener1850]

My friend is a real estate agent and she is always running to her office for this or that. Maybe Crystal had to stop and get some paperwork or something? Maybe stuff to bring home so she could still get some stuff done before / during the storm?

A briefcase with her real estate papers in it was found at the ex-husband's house. She had an appointment that morning to show a new build in Crosby, which is why her thread title says missing from Crosby, but that appointment was canceled. Presumably, she would have needed her real estate briefcase to go to the Crosby showing. Somehow it ended up at the ex-husband's house.

 

[DexterMorgan]

What I have trouble with is that she text her Ex saying she'd be there , they'd wait out the weather bc it seemed as if it'd just be rain &about the water and in that same brief exchange I thought he said meet me at pbp or whatever his place of employment is- but zero nothing else until after 11 and then it's about the dishwasher. Am I missing something? I think I have to be -so please refresh my memory . You'd think he'd text her angry asking why she didn't show or be worried or both. If she was someone who didn't have a history of not showing up when she suppose to I'd think alarm bells would go off. But he wasn't angry, he wasn't worried, he wasn't anything until after 11 when he said about the dishwasher finally being dropped off. His boss said he called in and at that point he said don't worry about coming in bc of the weather no one else is......wouldn't he need to tell her he I'm not working after all. What about I'm waiting on you with the kids in the parking lot where are you? I'm also not saying he did anything to her bc I don't actually know of course I just think it's odd.

Thats my thing as well. The kids bags would have to be packed and ready for that road trip. So she would likely want to pick them up from the house herself so she has the chance to grab any last second things from the home. So i was confused about the ex wanting her to get the kids fom another location.

I wonder if the ex seen or heard about the billboard and just decided to snap.

 

[SuperTmo]

And why is everyone assuming the inappropriateness is on her end. It sounded to me like they were saying she was dating(relationship) a married man (inappropriate) and the wife (someone) found out (discovered). And not even saying she knew the guy was married!

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I always see the missing person as the most innocent, friendliest, do-gooder and my gut reaction to the idea of her dating a married man is that "she wouldn't do that!" I'm not sure why. Maybe I get my feelings invested or come to think they are wayyy too nice to be a home wrecker. I don't get the vibe from her that she would willingly contribute to someone else's unhappy marriage, you know? So while I say that we don't know what the police know, or what she did, my gut feeling is if (big IF) she was involved with a married man, she probably didn't know.

I think I mentioned yesterday that lots of people inadvertently end up with someone they didn't know was married. If they are ok betraying their own spouse they won't think twice about lying to a potential partner do it! Which is very sad, IMO, because it's another person damaged.

By all accounts that I've heard, Crystal is a very nice person.

 

[ScotAng]

If I were missing and the media claimed I had *several* romantic relationships:

What if I had 4? Who cares right?! Its my business.

What is the LE definition of Several? Are they going off of the Dictionary meaning or what they feel is justified as Several? Objection your Honor...

Everything is relative and if a person wants to date several at one time it makes no difference.

No, what is relative - if you were missing - LE would want to speak to all four of your (hypothetical) romantic interests.

If you are missing, it becomes LE's business to find out why and potentially who was involved in your disappearance.

Does it really matter what the definition of several is? Whether there's one or ten people romantically involved with a missing person, every single one of them is of interest to LE. It's that simple.