TX TX - Elizabeth "Liz" Barraza, 29, murdered setting up garage sale, Harris Co, 25 January 2019 #7

[CrimeTheorist]

If geofencing hasn't helped find a suspect maybe they could get a warrant for a larger radius than they've already looked at. It's possible the killer had a phone with them but was smart enough to turn it off when they were near the house.

 

[jessarox]

It's forever vexing that the car wasn't a solid lead.

Dig into everyone known to her - cosplay group, coworkers, other friends - someone must drive that car. If they were borrowing a car from a relative, it still shouldn't be *that* hard to narrow down person that could've had a grudge against Liz + person that would've had access to that particular vehicle. I truly think someone (other than the killer) may know what happened or recognizes that vehicle but is deliberately covering for them.

It's so sad that it's been 7 years. If LE didn't find anything from digging into the car from the get go, who knows if it's too late now.

My theory on why the car hasn't been tied to anyone yet is that it was "borrowed" from a used car lot, auto auction, or car repair shop.

My dad and uncle used to be detailers for a used car lot and they were allowed to use vehicles from the lot that hadn't been put up for sale yet so recent trade-ins and cars that just came from the auction. They used dealer plates which are magnetic and can be removed in seconds. We didn't even own a car because my dad could reliably borrow a car from the lot even when we were going on family trips.

If someone was in a higher position (like a sales manager) and had access to the key cabinet, they could borrow the car, commit the crime, and return it before anyone even knew it was gone.

I hope that LE has looked into sales of this particular made and model but maybe they came up empty because the car wasn't sold but instead sent to auction.

 

[moonglow123]

My theory on why the car hasn't been tied to anyone yet is that it was "borrowed" from a used car lot, auto auction, or car repair shop.

My dad and uncle used to be detailers for a used car lot and they were allowed to use vehicles from the lot that hadn't been put up for sale yet so recent trade-ins and cars that just came from the auction. They used dealer plates which are magnetic and can be removed in seconds. We didn't even own a car because my dad could reliably borrow a car from the lot even when we were going on family trips.

If someone was in a higher position (like a sales manager) and had access to the key cabinet, they could borrow the car, commit the crime, and return it before anyone even knew it was gone.

I hope that LE has looked into sales of this particular made and model but maybe they came up empty because the car wasn't sold but instead sent to auction.

Honestly, you're probably right. I know there was speculation an individual close to S worked at a car dealership, and would thus have access to loaners, repairs, trade-ins like you said etc. I could definitely see whoever did it borrowing the car in whatever way. Very frustrating and aggravating that wouldn't have much or any trail.

 

[Lebowski]

My theory on why the car hasn't been tied to anyone yet is that it was "borrowed" from a used car lot, auto auction, or car repair shop.

My dad and uncle used to be detailers for a used car lot and they were allowed to use vehicles from the lot that hadn't been put up for sale yet so recent trade-ins and cars that just came from the auction. They used dealer plates which are magnetic and can be removed in seconds. We didn't even own a car because my dad could reliably borrow a car from the lot even when we were going on family trips.

If someone was in a higher position (like a sales manager) and had access to the key cabinet, they could borrow the car, commit the crime, and return it before anyone even knew it was gone.

I hope that LE has looked into sales of this particular made and model but maybe they came up empty because the car wasn't sold but instead sent to auction.

would the dealer plates have potentially led back to the specific dealer?

AIUI, none of the numerous camera recordings caught a clear view of the plate. but the perp(s) couldn't have been sure of that going into it. so if the dealer plates would have pointed to the dealer using them would have been almost as risky as using a car with regular plates. I think?

 

[jessarox]

would the dealer plates have potentially led back to the specific dealer?

AIUI, none of the numerous camera recordings caught a clear view of the plate. but the perp(s) couldn't have been sure of that going into it. so if the dealer plates would have pointed to the dealer using them would have been almost as risky as using a car with regular plates. I think?

Yes, they're dealer specific and would be tied to the dealership. It would definitely be risky to use a car like this when committing a crime.

It's possible that they didn't even have a license plate on the vehicle at the time of the shooting and then they slapped one on after stopping somewhere. It literally takes seconds and no tools to apply dealer plates and they can stick to any ferrous metal so sometimes they aren't even in the license plate area but to the side of it.

IIRC some of the cars coming from the auction house would still have an old license plate on them so it's also possible that there was a license plate belonging to the former owner on the truck and then the dealer plate was placed on top of that.

 

[Charlot123]

The saddest thing is, there are too many unknown factors

- motive: unknown. Still 50/50 whether related to the husband or unrelated. If related, there is a wide range of possibilities.

If unrelated, even wider. Honestly, some people are nuts. A thing like a bad review for a business or a restaurant could be a reason, nowadays.

- car: I think detective Ritchie overrated his knowledge of cars or underrated the degree of planning that went into the crime. One can’t rely on a car. (Example: in Idaho murders, a car specialist defined the type of a car correctly but missed a year. There may always be some details that make a huge difference but are not seen on the video).

- Give or take, the video is very grainy and the perpetrator did everything to stay away from the Nest Cam. That tells us that the killer either knew the house or got detailed insider’s information. This might be a clue, but Liz was social and had friends visiting them, so the circle might be wide.

All in all, my feeling would be that either the perpetrator got detailed insider’s information or had been to the house before. Potentially, both. This still leaves us with a huge group of suspects.

 

[Curiousobserver]

The saddest thing is, there are too many unknown factors

- motive: unknown. Still 50/50 whether related to the husband or unrelated. If related, there is a wide range of possibilities.

If unrelated, even wider. Honestly, some people are nuts. A thing like a bad review for a business or a restaurant could be a reason, nowadays.

- car: I think detective Ritchie overrated his knowledge of cars or underrated the degree of planning that went into the crime. One can’t rely on a car. (Example: in Idaho murders, a car specialist defined the type of a car correctly but missed a year. There may always be some details that make a huge difference but are not seen on the video).

- Give or take, the video is very grainy and the perpetrator did everything to stay away from the Nest Cam. That tells us that the killer either knew the house or got detailed insider’s information. This might be a clue, but Liz was social and had friends visiting them, so the circle might be wide.

All in all, my feeling would be that either the perpetrator got detailed insider’s information or had been to the house before. Potentially, both. This still leaves us with a huge group of suspects.

The weird thing the killer seems to have made little or no effort to avoid being seen. They pulled into a school just before the crime, which they should have expected to have at least 1 camera. They drove around the area the night before and at any point, or at multiple points, they should have expected to be seen on a camera at a home or business. They drove back past the crime scene a few minutes after the crime while a neighbor was on the phone with police.

They were very lucky that they were not identified and may be shocked of that fact themselves.

 

[FromGermany1]

The weird thing the killer seems to have made little or no effort to avoid being seen. They pulled into a school just before the crime, which they should have expected to have at least 1 camera. They drove around the area the night before and at any point, or at multiple points, they should have expected to be seen on a camera at a home or business. They drove back past the crime scene a few minutes after the crime while a neighbor was on the phone with police.

They were very lucky that they were not identified and may be shocked of that fact themselves.

With a stolen or borrowed car (?) and a blonde wig (?), maybe, it wasn't so very risky in the person's eyes. And .... s/he was right. MOO

 

[Curiousobserver]

With a stolen or borrowed car (?) and a blonde wig (?), maybe, it wasn't so very risky in the person's eyes. And .... s/he was right. MOO

Agree- It seems they were right

Its so confident though, to drive through the area the day before. Someone may have been able to get a great look at you, or maybe even Liz might see you or her parents are visiting, or Sergio etc... going out to get the mail or take out the garbage, or walk the dog or whatever... This person was sure nobody would have the foggiest idea who they were.

 

[arielilane]

My understanding is that the cameras at Goddard School were not working (how convenient) that morning. It's also possible there's no truth to that and it's a rumor to mislead the shooter.

I believed or thought there were several surveillance cameras filming that truck as it drove through the neighborhood, but I guess that's wrong too? Why not release footage? I suppose it wont help - more grainy video?

Have LE not checked weeks before the murder of Liz Barraza and weeks after her murder? Killers' return to the crime scene.

In my opinion, a new set of eyes is very much needed and Sgt MR needs assistance to resolve this case. I hope I am wrong but it's not a one man investigation (so WW helps once in a while?) that is going to apprehend the killer and an accomplice. It's time to get this killer off the streets and in a courtroom. Too many missed opportunities? I hope I am wrong. I hope they know who is responsible and are building their case.

all just an opinion

 

[ilovewings]

My understanding is that the cameras at Goddard School were not working (how convenient) that morning. It's also possible there's no truth to that and it's a rumor to mislead the shooter.

I believed or thought there were several surveillance cameras filming that truck as it drove through the neighborhood, but I guess that's wrong too? Why not release footage? I suppose it wont help - more grainy video?

Have LE not checked weeks before the murder of Liz Barraza and weeks after her murder? Killers' return to the crime scene.

In my opinion, a new set of eyes is very much needed and Sgt MR needs assistance to resolve this case. I hope I am wrong but it's not a one man investigation (so WW helps once in a while?) that is going to apprehend the killer and an accomplice. It's time to get this killer off the streets and in a courtroom. Too many missed opportunities? I hope I am wrong. I hope they know who is responsible and are building their case.

all just an opinion

I was just thinking how I had not seen too much posting about Liz Barraza lately-- it saddens me to think this case could go unsolved. When a case gets this cold it is time for fresh eyes---- I hope they are still actively investigating this case but I doubt it. I was saddened even more to read her father is dying of cancer.

 

[Charlot123]

Tonight on Fox News at 9 PM It’s been 7 years since the murder of Liz Barraza Crime Stoppers has an up to a $50,000 reward for information leading to an arrestHer Father Bob has Stage 4 Esophageal CancerWe need this case solved before Bob passes awayTonight on Fox News at 9

https://twitter.com/x/status/2015972540397568211

Agree with what Mrs. Nuelle stated. I have thought the same for sometime.

Family still seeking justice for daughter's murder 7 years later

Seven years ago, a 29-year-old woman was pronounced dead after being gunned down while setting up a garage sale at her Tomball area home.

www.fox26houston.com

Seven years ago, a 29-year-old woman was pronounced dead after being gunned down while setting up a garage sale at her Tomball area home.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2016164374314922072

Yes, I agree with Mrs. Nuelle, too.

 

[arielilane]

SB was held and questioned at the scene in a patrol car. Dashcam was previously linked @ WS.

Despite LE releasing SB, he and his mother did not arrive at the hospital until noon (exact time not publicly specified). By then, Liz’s parents and her brother and other family had already been there for some time.

It’s bothersome that SB arrived to the hospital so late in the day.
It's very bothersome why a husband would stay at a crime scene... dark red blood on the driveway of their home they purchased together --- didnt he watch video and heard four gunshots? Heard his wife's screams? Seen the police tape...

Strange...


moo

New video shows raw moments shortly after Tomball woman killed in her driveway nearly 5 years ago

Nearly five years later, Liz Barraza's murder remains unsolved despite a $50,000 reward. She was gunned down while setting up a garage sale in her Tomball driveway nearly five years ago.

abc13.com

Article date: Friday, December 8, 2023

"Oh my God, dude. This is crazy," Sergio Barraza, Liz's husband, said on the video.

It was his heartbreaking reaction within minutes of learning Liz had been shot.

"So they just (expletive) shot her and left?" he asked the officer.

...

"I leave, and I just saw on the camera, this vehicle pulls up and turns around. I guess right there, and then I don't hear anything for a second. I heard four shots and a scream and then that's it," Sergio explained.

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[moonglow123]

SB was held and questioned at the scene in a patrol car. Dashcam was previously linked @ WS.

Despite LE releasing SB, he and his mother did not arrive at the hospital until noon (exact time not publicly specified). By then, Liz’s parents and her brother and other family had already been there for some time.

It’s bothersome that SB arrived to the hospital so late in the day.
It's very bothersome why a husband would stay at a crime scene... dark red blood on the driveway of their home they purchased together --- didnt he watch video and heard four gunshots? Heard his wife's screams? Seen the police tape...

Strange...


moo

New video shows raw moments shortly after Tomball woman killed in her driveway nearly 5 years ago

Nearly five years later, Liz Barraza's murder remains unsolved despite a $50,000 reward. She was gunned down while setting up a garage sale in her Tomball driveway nearly five years ago.

abc13.com

Article date: Friday, December 8, 2023

"Oh my God, dude. This is crazy," Sergio Barraza, Liz's husband, said on the video.

It was his heartbreaking reaction within minutes of learning Liz had been shot.

"So they just (expletive) shot her and left?" he asked the officer.

...

"I leave, and I just saw on the camera, this vehicle pulls up and turns around. I guess right there, and then I don't hear anything for a second. I heard four shots and a scream and then that's it," Sergio explained.

Timeline

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I know SB wanted to move on with his life, and so doesn’t involve himself with Liz’s investigation anymore… but I do hope he scanned his brain for every possible person that could’ve wanted to harm Liz and presented his ideas to LE.

I guess it could’ve been random, but someone that knew her seems way more likely. And they seemed to have a simple life, like he would’ve known most people she interacted with, either friends, coworkers, people from the charity work they did etc.

The hospital thing is strange, I definitely would’ve been much more frantic but who knows. 12pm was, what, five hours after she was shot? That is a long time…

 

[CrimeTheorist]

I feel like ever since Nancy Grace was a little bit aggressive in questioning SB on her show he hasn't talked.

 

[FromGermany1]

"This case is still very active," Harris County Sheriff's Office Sgt. Michael Ritchie said. "We do have evidence left at the scene. Technology is getting better, and I believe soon we'll be able to do something with it."

Father's dying wish renews urgency in unsolved 2019 Liz Barraza murder

Seven years after Elizabeth 'Liz' Barraza was gunned down in her driveway, her father says time is of the essence to find her killer.

abc13.com

Anyone with information is urged to contact Crime Stoppers at 713-222-TIPS (8477) or by submitting a tip online. Tips can be made anonymously.