TX - Fertilizer plant explodes in West, Texas

  • #561
Did I read correctly that the plant only employed 12 people? So maybe it wasn't that big. No bigger than the Owens Corning and all those plants along 35 in Waxahachie that I drive by. Scary.

O/T - did I hear active shooting at MIT right now??? WTH is going on people??
 
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Hey you other firefighter people might be able to answer this.

If a volunteer firefighter is killed in the line of duty, does the family get anything?
With a cop they get a pension... does a volunteer firefighter's family get anything?

That just occurred to me. These families already lost their husbands... are they left with nothing?
(Aside from life insurance obviously because they likely have that. I'm talking specifically job related.)

My husband is a volunteer in Tx. They do have insurance.There are also several associations they can join that provide insurance benefits. He was injured twice and both times the dept. took care of his medical bills. I always joke with him that if he dies at home I will drag his body up to the station and put it in a truck so the girls and I will be taken care of.
 
  • #564
Thanks for the updates, MsF.
Hopefully the body count doesnt go up any further. Remember, though, if an entire family is wiped out, and nobody is looking for them, they may not even be listed as "unaccounted for".
 
  • #565
I know, I don't even know how you would go about determining who was where and when... :tears:
 
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  • #567
Hey you other firefighter people might be able to answer this.

If a volunteer firefighter is killed in the line of duty, does the family get anything?
With a cop they get a pension... does a volunteer firefighter's family get anything?

That just occurred to me. These families already lost their husbands... are they left with nothing?
(Aside from life insurance obviously because they likely have that. I'm talking specifically job related.)

Per Mr Swamp who was 🤬🤬🤬't fire chief of our vfd (and which our family was heavily involved in) most departments have life insurance policies in place to cover members of the dept. I can't say for certain this dept did but most vfds DO have life insurance for member killed in the line of duty. Usually about $100,000 to $250,000
 
  • #568
That was like 2 hours ago. :waitasec:

Yeah, I just realized that after I went over to the Boston Marathon thread. "Breaking News" is not what it used to be, I guess. ;)
 
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  • #570
http://www.firehouse.com/news/10924113/families-wait-but-know-last-alarms-answered-in-west-texas

"Among the missing and presumed dead are five volunteer firefighters, four EMS personnel and a Dallas Fire-Rescue captain."

So heartbreaking. There are just no words. This could happen here, in the middle of the night, and I would stumble out of bed and accompany Mr. Swamp to a call such as this because we are both first responders.. No doubt my BIL and SIL (also first responders) would be there as well, and so many dear people that we work with such as the EMTs. )

And then to think that all of those people would just be gone in a second is heartbreaking.

The thing is that first responders (firefighters, EMTs, paramedics, police ) know each other, they get to know the faces they usually see on scenes who are from different departments and they will be the first to volunteer if they happen upon a scene. You keep seeing the same faces, you get to know people, faces, names. You meet in many classes that first responders take. You get to know each other. You might not even know them that well some but have that connection. You feel stronger knowing that there are so many like-minded people, all there to help when people need it the most, whatever that may entail.

They are an amazing, diverse group of people, each with different strengths and talents, which is great because never know what you will be dealing with. They are people who can get stuff done, who deal with unimaginable situations with patience and humor.

I think of all the times I have heard the pager go off, raced Mr. Swamp to see who can get dressed first, run to the truck, go flying down the driveway, get to the firehouse, hop in the firetruck and race to the scene, often not even really know quite what we are responding to, whether it will turn out to be nothing much (as it usually is, thank God) or something more.

But My God, this is unimaginable. I can imagine the scene with them showing up, greeting each other, seeing who is there, assessing the scene, and jumping right in the mix…….. And then in one second, one huge flash, they are no more.

I grieve for their families. I lost a fiancé who was a firefighter although he did not die on duty. He died suddenly and unexpectedly and my whole world crumbled in an instant. I know there are spouses, children, parents, siblings and friends who are going through what I went through and it breaks my heart. Honestly,and I have told Mr. Swamp so, though he says I am silly to say such things), when he goes, I hope I am with him. I never want to go thru that pain again, dealing with such loss and grief. My heart just hurts thinking of those families tonight, those wives and children and loved ones.

I'm home tonight with Mr Swamp and he loves to naggravate (nag + aggravate) me. He was doing it tonight, fussing over stupid stuff (slightly stale tacos and no tomatoes). All I could do was smile and say "I love you" and hug him. There isn't much he could have done that would have made me mad because i know how blessed i am to have him still here on this earth naggravating me.
 
  • #571
Very well said, swampy. Stay safe!
 
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  • #574
Now I feel bad. Seems it was a private owner and him (and his family) live there - are part of the community. I can't imagine how (or what) he must be going through. Its horrible. Certainly NOT his fault - but it was his business. Sad. He's elderly - I hope the stress of all this isn't too much for him (and his family).

Yeah me too. I somehow thought the plant was larger and run by a foreign investor group (someone said the plant was bought by an Egyptian company).

They only had 12 employees and also run a family farm? Very sad! The elderly owner must feel awful.
 
  • #575
Matt Lauer is there now. Today Show right now. (no cows)
 
  • #576
Good morning from the Waco area. Weather was nice yesterday afternoon, so I'm glad the SAR and survivors who lost homes, etc. didn't have to deal with rain and wind all day yesterday.

Mr DD is at his station today, so he'll get a full update on the status of the Waco FD guys that live in West, and hear how their homes are, etc.

I'll try to ask him what he knows about volunteer FD benefits.

Personally, I am surprised they haven't had more forthcoming info on the fatality count, so far. I guess the Mayor is the best source so far, with his estimate at about 35?

Love this community and how they've responded.

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ETA:

Mr DD called from the fire station - all their guys and immediate families are okay. Very lucky. One said his grandmother lost her home, but there are several family members living in West, that will take her in.

WOW - is Mr DD ANGRY. His crew is just learning what happened in their agency that night, and what they were dispatched to do, and what they weren't allowed to do, and some of the behind the scenes info. I can't say more, but the actual fire fighters are not happy with their Chief. Let's just say the fire fighters wanted to do more, and weren't allowed to go do some of what they felt was necessary. They would have been the largest/best equipped agency to do certain things, but no.....
 
  • #577
I love how the animal rescue groups are there, on the ground, helping every way they can. If I weren't unemployed and had a better car, I'd be right there or donating more. God bless everyone involved.

o/t back to Watertown - am I the only one that can't get anything done this week due to breaking news and explosions? Good gravy!!
 
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  • #579
http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/...orted-At-West-Fertilizer-Plant-203505331.html

West Mayor: "We’re Still Holding Out Some Hope”




(I know Justice of the Peace Peterson very well; I worked closely with him when he was a Sgt. at DPS...he retired and then recently became a JP...a wonderful, kind, gentle soul. If anyone wants to add "Pete" to your prayers, I think it would be lovely to do. I'm sure he could use some prayers as he's dealing with next of kin notifications and long hours.)
 
  • #580
http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/...orted-At-West-Fertilizer-Plant-203505331.html

West Mayor: "We’re Still Holding Out Some Hope”




(I know Justice of the Peace Peterson very well; I worked closely with him when he was a Sgt. at DPS...he retired and then recently became a JP...a wonderful, kind, gentle soul. If anyone wants to add "Pete" to your prayers, I think it would be lovely to do. I'm sure he could use some prayers as he's dealing with next of kin notifications and long hours.)

Thanks for the updates. This is so unbelievably tragic.
 

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