GUILTY TX - Five dead, including 8 yr old, in Cleveland home, suspect armed with AR-15 style rifle, active investigation, 28 Apr 2023

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He wasn't so intoxicated, imo, because he knew to flee after murdering the neighbors. (Just saying that generally and not in response to any particular post.)

MOO.
 
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He wasn't so intoxicated, imo, because he knew to flee after murdering the neighbors. (Just saying that generally and not in response to any particular post.)

MOO.
Clearly. He had his wits to dispose of his cell phone and clothing. And never mind he managed to shoot all five victims in the head area.
 
  • #63
I don't see race as having anything to do with this.Clearly this guy was an angry person hostile to everyone.<modsnip - general gun purchase comments belong on the thread dedicated to that>
<modsnip - general gun purchase comments belong on the thread dedicated to that> ICE reports he was deported many many times .... entering the good ole USA is just too easy ... anyone can do it and they are doing it. <modsnip - general gun purchase comments belong on the thread dedicated to that> I figure he will beat it to Mexico and probably unless severe pressure is exerted he will never be picked up
 
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Another mass shooting. Are we at a couple of mass shootings each day now? There is a problem here.

Also, I would never confront someone shooting an AR-15. Just call LEO.
 
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There is a large forested area just south of this location, easier place to hide...

edit: I'm not great with topography, it could be farmland with lots of greenery
Most of the area out there is heavily forested. It’s still pretty rural out that way. Further from I-45 and less traffic. It’s a good place to move through with little attention. Unfortunately for him, everyone is on the lookout for him. Anyone that remotely looks like this guy will be called in.
 
  • #71
There is a large forested area just south of this location, easier place to hide...

edit: I'm not great with topography, it could be farmland with lots of greenery
Its probably forest.

East Texas soil tends to be "red clay". This means a lot of "red clay roads" as the country western song goes and a reduced number of farms as the soil is not generally good for crops.

The red clay soil, however, is very good for growing pine trees and thorn bushes.
 
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Most of the area out there is heavily forested. It’s still pretty rural out that way. Further from I-45 and less traffic. Unfortunately for him, everyone is on the lookout for him.
Very true.

One good thing, however, is that the Sam Houston forest is not as contiguous as the other forests in east Texas. This means more roads, farms and traffic in between the forested areas.

Still plenty of forest to hide in- along with plenty of creepy crawlies. But.... he will also need to cross good sized roads that are actually travelled on and farm fields. As you stated, everyone is on the look out for him.
 
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Another possible siting.
 
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Most of the area out there is heavily forested. It’s still pretty rural out that way. Further from I-45 and less traffic. It’s a good place to move through with little attention. Unfortunately for him, everyone is on the lookout for him. Anyone that remotely looks like this guy will be called in.
I don't know why he would be hiding in a forest when Mexico is only five hours away. There are looking in nearby areas and he is probably in Mexico already.
 
  • #76
I don't know why he would be hiding in a forest when Mexico is only five hours away.
If he does not have a car or a ride, Mexico might as well be on the "Dark Side of the Moon".
 
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If he does not have a car or a ride, Mexico might as well be on the "Dark Side of the Moon".
I don't think carjacking is out of the question here, do you? If he didn't have a car or a ride, he could have easily gotten one.
 
  • #78
They have to find him first. As of now he is nowhere to be found. If he makes it to Mexico, he could likely hide for a long time.
Especially considering that this is Texas law enforcement.
 
  • #79
I was a bit disturbed reading in the article above that LEO was not on the scene after 20 minutes. Seriously? A guy is shooting an AR-15 at 11:30 at night...I wish there was a more definitive time line. Or reason why LEO took that length of time.
 
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Another mass shooting. Are we at a couple of mass shootings each day now? There is a problem here.

Also, I would never confront someone shooting an AR-15. Just call LEO.
You do have to remember that the victims were Honduran and probably did not trust the police (among other things).
 

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