TX - Former Dallas Police Officer Amber Guyger, indicted for Murder of Botham Shem Jean #5

[Handsome Sailor]

Why hadn't Botham shem closed his own door?

 

[Handsome Sailor]

If you are soooooooooooooooo tired, delusional, and sleep deprived are you really driving home while talking and texting bow-chicka-bow-wow with your main squeeze?

I will call a friend to stay alert on long drives. It's not in the least unusual.

 

[Handsome Sailor]

I would think that being intimate would be the last thing on your mind if you just finished a 15 hour shift.

She must have had copious amounts of coffee

Jmo

not really. it's a great way to unwind. a healthy way as well.

 

[ilovewings]

Why hadn't Botham shem closed his own door?

From what I recall, the defense attorney said he apparently went
Shopping and when he came back home hemust have forgotten to lock the door--i didn't hear the Prosecution opening statement about that issue (if it was addressed )

 

[Handsome Sailor]

From what I recall, the defense attorney said he apparently went
Shopping and when he came back home hemust have forgotten to lock the door--i didn't hear the Prosecution opening statement about that issue (if it was addressed )

thanks. I really think the prosecution blew it by arguing Officer Guyger was distracted, not by the 15-hour shift, but by sexual texting. Yeah, like she was really thinking about sexting when she shot her weapon. It's preposterous, and I think the jury will see right through it. This, plus the prosecutor's violation of the gag order, have really given day one to the defense.

 

[Handsome Sailor]

So remember, the next time you forget to lock your door, and someone comes in and kills you, it's YOUR FAULT. There is actually someone posting on this thread who wants you to accept and believe this.

Please refrain from putting words in my mouth, and in general for taking this forum so personally. I asked a simple question that is directly relevant to the case. I did not impute blame or fault. Dude, chill out. And stay within TOS.

 

[Longtime_lurker2019]

Why hadn't Botham shem closed his own door?

Where are you going with that?

 

[MsFacetious]

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[Jax49]

Amber Guyger trial: Why did prosecutors focus on Guyger's texts?

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[Jax49]

Dallas County DA spoke about Amber Guyger case on eve of murder trial — much to judge's dismay

During a hearing Monday before testimony began in the first day of Amber Guyger's murder trial, state District Judge Tammy Kemp was visibly upset to learn that Dallas County District Attorney John Creuzot had taken part in an interview about the case on TV the night before.

 

[Lillymac]

I will call a friend to stay alert on long drives. It's not in the least unusual.

Unless she went somewhere before going home, it is not a long drive from the station. I'm assuming she was downtown. 3:33 minutes to me is not a long time at all between calls. Actually it seems fast. I'm assuming the parking garage had elevators.

 

[Lillymac]

Where are you going with that?

This has been the show stopper for the last year. Based on statements by people who knew him that he would never not lock his door. Well now we have an answer as to how she got in. Nobody is blaming the victim!

 

[formerjerseygirl]

I watched the trial today. If I recall correctly, the door hinge had a malfunction that when pulled closed, the hinge did not catch properly and appeared to be closed but lock did not catch.
At 5:27:54 in video,defense opening, is where i saw this. No testimony on this yet so-Grain of salt.

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[mister happy]

Dallas County DA spoke about Amber Guyger case on eve of murder trial — much to judge's dismay

What? And it's the DA, of all people. How stupid could he be? Unbelievable!

 

[Blondiexoxo]

You’d think she’d have known immediately from the second the door opened that this wasn’t her apartment.
1: The door. Everyone’s door opens differently imo I can tell by the sound the handle makes when it goes down, it’s a bit stiff and I have to push a bit harder. The squeak it makes etc.
2: the smell. Everyone’s home has their ‘smell’ I can’t put it any other way but blindfold me and walk me into my house I’d know immediately where I was. Plus if this apartment smelled like marijuana then how didn’t she know immediately this wasn’t her home?
Just those two things make me question her story imo

 

[Catmommy]

Even if she was so goo goo tired that she didn't recognize her own floor and her own door (had she done this before?), the fact that she never tried to render aid to a man she shot before suddenly realizing that he wasn't in her apartment trying to rob or attack her makes this a murder - in my mind. Is it wrong to hope that the jurors see it the same way? This innocent victim deserves Justice if anybody does.

 

[Catmommy]

And "oops" just don't get it -IMO

 

[ilovewings]

So remember, the next time you forget to lock your door, and someone comes in and kills you, it's YOUR FAULT. There is actually someone posting on this thread who wants you to accept and believe this.

No one is blaming the victim for his own death: I listened to the opening statement of the prosecutor this morning and it was excellent: it is a fact that Botham Jean's door was left unlocked: the defense has one reason the door was unlocked: (may or may not be true): the prosecution talks about the locking mechanism, but he does not dwell on the reason the door was not locked, just stated it was unfortunate it was not locked; THAT IS A FACT. The prosecutor's opening statement was short and sweet: he painted Amber Guyger as a police officer who became very distracted based most likely on a phone conversation she was having with her lover-ex-lover or whatever they were at that time and in the past, and because of that distraction she failed to notice all the things she should have noticed as she proceeded to what she thought was her apartment. He described her actions as unreasonable--- that her failure to recognize she was not on the right floor, and how she unreasonably failed to recognize all those things that should have triggered that knowledge: he showed the exhibit of the red door mat which i thought was very strong evidence: that should have stopped her in her tracks right there before she even attempted to gain entrance to Botham Jean's apartment.

The prosecution's opening statement is at variance with the Defense on the position of Botham Jean when he was shot; The defense made Botham Jean sound like a menace, like he was coming at her in the dark and presenting a threat so she had to shoot him. The prosecution stated that the trajectory of the bullet shows he was crouched over when he was shot, probably just getting off the couch to find out who the hell was coming thru his door. I think the strongest part of the opening statement was this: In her phone call to 911 she never said Botham Jean was a threat: she never said he was coming at her: she said 19 times she thought she was in her apartment and she shot who she thought was an intruder, but she never said he was threatening her. The prosecution basically said Amber Guyger just shot him dead because he was in what she thought was her apartment and that if he was a threat she would have said that on the 911 call.

 

[Blondiexoxo]

Unless the gun was already in her hand ready to fire then she had time to reach for the gun and aim. If the lights weren’t on then how did she know where to shoot? How did she know there was an intruder if the lights were off? At the point she shoots she’s still assuming it’s her apartment so why not turn a light on to check it’s not a friend or relative especially if the door was unlocked? I have trouble understanding how she couldn’t see to realise she was in the wrong apartment yet could see the intruder and shoot him dead. All in the dark? Was she shooting aimlessly into the space in front of her or what?

 

[CrimeDawg123]

Unless the gun was already in her hand ready to fire then she had time to reach for the gun and aim. If the lights weren’t on then how did she know where to shoot? How did she know there was an intruder if the lights were off? At the point she shoots she’s still assuming it’s her apartment so why not turn a light on to check it’s not a friend or relative especially if the door was unlocked? I have trouble understanding how she couldn’t see to realise she was in the wrong apartment yet could see the intruder and shoot him dead. All in the dark? Was she shooting aimlessly into the space in front of her or what?

If he had the TV on then maybe there was enough ambient light from the TV for her to see? Which begs the question, does she have the same size TV in the exact same location in her apartment?