TX - Former Dallas Police Officer Amber Guyger, indicted for Murder of Botham Shem Jean #5

[blue22]

I don't find that unusual. I've taken CPR training several times over the years and yet do not feel confident enough to apply it. I would just call 911 too.

Is the expectation of rendering aid part of your occupation? I think it's a bit apples to oranges. JMO, of course.

 

[blue22]

"Was it a well lit hallway?" Yes it was.

(This is an officer testifying. I didn't catch his name.)

 

[Bennettfit]

Guyger, stated that she saw that the front door was ajar, (ie partially opened), but she still attempted to put her key into the lock. There's no reason to unlock a door that's already opened. This woman is a blatant liar, I'd convict her in 2 seconds.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

"Was it a well lit hallway?" Yes it was.

(This is an officer testifying. I didn't catch his name.)

Name: Keenan Blair

 

[HongKongPhooey]

But you'd probably at least try while you were waiting, wouldn't you?

I dont know why you'd have the training if you wouldnt at least try!

 

[YESorNO]

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[blue22]

Name: Keenan Blair

Thank you!

 

[Mickey Mouse]

I cannot believe the incompetence of this defense. AG must be so pissed.

To be fair, the defense doesn't have much to work with.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

I have done CPR before and I am about AG's same size. I don't believe she could have done anything useful with one hand. I have to use both arms with elbows in a locked position, raise my body high on my knees, and press down forcefully with all of my might very rapidly. It's truly exhausting. She could not have been effective with a one hand chest compression IMO.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Guyger, stated that she saw that the front door was ajar, (ie partially opened), but she still attempted to put her key into the lock. There's no reason to unlock a door that's already opened. This woman is a blatant liar, I'd convict her in 2 seconds.

BBM: Exactly ... I keep wondering IF - IF she put HER key into Bo's lock AFTER she shot him.

In other words, the front door was ajar, so all she has to do is push the door open further -- no need for a key.

But she did put her key in the door ... I still question whether it was before or after she killed Bo.

MOO and MOO

 

[rosesfromangels]

I have done CPR before and I am about AG's same size. I don't believe she could have done anything useful with one hand. I have to use both arms with elbows in a locked position, raise my body high on my knees, and press down forcefully with all of my might very rapidly. It's truly exhausting. She could not have been effective with a one hand chest compression IMO.

She could have held his hand as he lay dying.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[Rocco]

I have done CPR before and I am about AG's same size. I don't believe she could have done anything useful with one hand. I have to use both arms with elbows in a locked position, raise my body high on my knees, and press down forcefully with all of my might very rapidly. It's truly exhausting. She could not have been effective with a one hand chest compression IMO.

I doubt anyone could do anything useful with one hand. Amazing she didn't get any blood on her considering his injury. Oh wait....she testified there wasn't much blood. Yep---amazing.

 

[blue22]

I have done CPR before and I am about AG's same size. I don't believe she could have done anything useful with one hand. I have to use both arms with elbows in a locked position, raise my body high on my knees, and press down forcefully with all of my might very rapidly. It's truly exhausting. She could not have been effective with a one hand chest compression IMO.

I am a bit smaller, but I agree. I have to use my body weight and force to be effective. One hand would be absolutely useless. I KNOW that and wouldn't even bother with just one hand. It would be an insult.

 

[Bennettfit]

Delete duplicate post.

 

[Bennettfit]

BBM: Exactly ... I keep wondering IF - IF she put HER key into Bo's lock AFTER she shot him.

In other words, the front door was ajar, so all she has to do is push the door open further -- no need for a key.

But she did put her key in the door ... I still question whether it was before or after she killed Bo.

MOO and MOO

Her only out is to say it was ajar, because, obviously her key wouldn't unlock the door. I believe what happened is she attempted to unlock the door, Shem, heard his front door lock jiggling, answers the door and she then shoots him.

 

[Mickey Mouse]

I doubt anyone could do anything useful with one hand. Amazing she didn't get any blood on her considering his injury. Oh wait....she testified there wasn't much blood. Yep---amazing.

So, she's holding the phone in one hand, doing "a little bit" of CPR with the other... How was she texting? With her nose?

 

[gitana1]

excellent explanation for those having trouble grasping the gravity of what happened

I think the confusion is as to how the law on murder is written in TX. It's much broader than most states. It doesn't require premeditation. Or a departed heart per the wording of the statute. Although case law could flesh that part out more. I'm unfamiliar.

 

[blue22]

Her only out is to say it was ajar, because, obviously her key wouldn't unlock the door. I believe what happened is she attempted to unlock the door, Shem, heard his front door lock jiggling, answers the door and she then shoots him.

Respectfully, I don't believe any of the evidence presented shows him at the door.

 

[mickey2942]

I have done CPR before and I am about AG's same size. I don't believe she could have done anything useful with one hand. I have to use both arms with elbows in a locked position, raise

my body high on my knees, and press down forcefully with all of my might very rapidly. It's truly exhausting. She could not have been effective with a one hand chest compression IMO.

Especially while texting.

Thanks everyone for the commentary, I can't watch at work. I have a gun, but if I walked into my house, and saw a guy there, I wouldn't go "guns blazing". Agreed, AG was mad and took it out on Botham Jean.

 

[LadyL]

But you'd probably at least try while you were waiting, wouldn't you?

doubtful
I have been in the position but the person wasn't dying
but I still didn't remember any training and just called 911