TX - Four deaths in 2023 and five in 2022 in similar location of Lady Bird Lake, Austin

[sunflowermomma]

I'm curious if this has been discussed here yet? A few articles:

MAP: Tracking deaths near Lady Bird Lake in Austin

This report aims to provide KXAN viewers with full transparency and facts.

www.kxan.com

Latest body found at Lady Bird Lake highlights high rate of drownings in Travis County

A body found in Lady Bird Lake over the weekend is raising concerns on two fronts. It follows three drownings on the lake just this year which has many wonderin

cbsaustin.com

East Austinites demand action after decades of Lady Bird Lake drownings

Residents say safety concerns preceded Rainey Street deaths

spectrumlocalnews.com

"AUSTIN, Texas — A body found in Lady Bird Lake over the weekend is raising concerns on two fronts. It follows three drownings on the lake just this year which has many wondering if the deaths are somehow related. But it also shows how dangerous local waters have become recently.

The body, identified as 30-year-old Christopher Hays-Clark, was spotted at the east end of Lady Bird Lake near Longhorn Dam. Austin Police say there was no obvious sign of how the person died.

Police Officer Michael Bullock said shortly after the discovery, "Our investigations are done tandemly with the medical examiner’s office because we don’t determine the cause of death, that’s up to the medical examiner.”

The body was found downstream from three separate previous drownings this year. Those drownings prompted the Austin City Council to unanimously approve a resolution calling for new safety measures on the lake, especially south of the Rainey Street neighborhood and the downtown entertainment district."

 

[Howl]

The waters on Lady Bird Lake are no more dangerous than they've ever been.
Lady Bird Lake is a dammed up section of the Colorado River; it runs for miles through downtown Austin. This area is the center of a metroplex with over 2 million people. There is some current, but it's not dramatic.

Texas Monthly debunks the serial killer thing here:
May 1, 2023 Reality Check: There's Almost Certainly No Serial Killer in Austin
What began as a baseless theory has turned into a social media frenzy—one with the power to frighten the public and hamper police investigations, experts say.

 

[happyday]

My daughter and I were just talking about this. She thinks it’s a serial killer and maybe even a female killer. I don’t really know what to think! On one hand I think there are just so many people in Austin now—and lots of late nights, drinking at the bars all so close to the lake. Men, lots of alcohol and water can end in tragedy. But then on the other hand, that is ALOT of bodies in one lake. It really is suspicious.

 

[sunflowermomma]

I really think there need to be more public safety campaigns and conversations around getting your drunk friends home safely, especially for young men. Some basic PSAs could save lives.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

I really think there need to be more public safety campaigns and conversations around getting your drunk friends home safely, especially for young men. Some basic PSAs could save lives.

I read yesterday, but I don't have the link (so, imo) they are putting up some barriers between the hike and bike path and the water and adding additional lighting. Hope that helps. I find the number of bodies suspicious. MOO

 

[Puzzles8]

So, more deaths around Rainey Street (Austin TX) in Ladybird Lake.
When does it go from coincidence to conspiracy?

Has the Rainey Street ripper struck again? Two more bodies found

Rumors continue to circulate online and in the community in Austin that at least some of the 12 bodies plucked from Lady Bird Lake could be victims of a serial killer labeled the Rainey Street Ripper.

www.dailymail.co.uk

JMO

 

[whinewiththegravy]

So, more deaths around Rainey Street (Austin TX) in Ladybird Lake.
When does it go from coincidence to conspiracy?

Has the Rainey Street ripper struck again? Two more bodies found

Rumors continue to circulate online and in the community in Austin that at least some of the 12 bodies plucked from Lady Bird Lake could be victims of a serial killer labeled the Rainey Street Ripper.

www.dailymail.co.uk

JMO

Are those the only options? I wouldn’t necessarily characterize nature (of humans, near water) taking its anticipated, predictable, preventable course as “coincidence,” exactly, and definitely not conspiracy. Maybe that’s hair-splitting on my part.

Anyone know if the mitigation efforts referenced by @GoBuckeyes above were ever completed? DM article linked only references a previous plan for more lighting and fencing, plus a more recent suggestion for cameras and visible ranger beats in addition to amped-up police patrol, all around the lake. DM article quotes a local concerned about how far the lake is from populated areas and that this seems suspicious to her; which makes little sense since only three of the drowning victims were thought to have disappeared near the lake itself, and many more entered the water via the Colorado in populated areas with known nightlife hotspots adjacent, primarily on Rainey.

This local’s words express bafflement at how someone “could leave Rainey and end up at the lake.” Rainey abuts the river, and Lady Bird is downstream from it. Given these facts, I’m not sure why locals who ought to have a good sense of the geography and culture of their own city are confused about drownings and suspected drownings of residents last seen in the very late/early hours near their city’s main waterway.

It’s nice to hear Austin PD doing their best to correct this misinformation, but how can you manage a common folktale about the treachery of water at night found throughout the ages in different forms, from sea serpents, to ladies in white, to serial killers armed with friendly stickers?

Edited to correct myself: one of the dead is suspected of having succumbed to a cardiac event, one was found not in the lake but under a bridge, and another was found in his car.

 

[x_files]

I am happy to find this forum...there's a series of men disappearing and ending up dead in the Lady Bird Lake.

 

[x_files]

My daughter and I were just talking about this. She thinks it’s a serial killer and maybe even a female killer. I don’t really know what to think! On one hand I think there are just so many people in Austin now—and lots of late nights, drinking at the bars all so close to the lake. Men, lots of alcohol and water can end in tragedy. But then on the other hand, that is ALOT of bodies in one lake. It really is suspicious.

There's a theory it could be two or more working as a team. Send in an attractive woman or man to attract the target, drink with them dose their drink call an "Uber" that their friend is driving, rob the victim roll into the lake left unconscious or dead.
There was a team recently arrested operating similarly.

https://www.fox7austin.com/news/austin-texas-victims-drugged-robbed-6th-street

 

[meade]

And new article here:

'I survived Rainey Street ripper': Drugged man who fell off bridge

Jeff Jones, 38, was on a bachelor party trip to Austin with a dozen friends from his home in Boston and was found badly injured at the bottom of a bridge above a stream leading to waterway.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Hard to believe there aren't cameras covering that bridge.

The part that makes it very fishy is the drugs in the system. But are they really date rape drugs, or recreational drugs? And even if they are date rape drugs, it doesn't necessarily mean he was pushed as part of a plot. But it is very fishy. He is super lucky to be alive.

 

[x_files]

And new article here:

'I survived Rainey Street ripper': Drugged man who fell off bridge

Jeff Jones, 38, was on a bachelor party trip to Austin with a dozen friends from his home in Boston and was found badly injured at the bottom of a bridge above a stream leading to waterway.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Hard to believe there aren't cameras covering that bridge.

The part that makes it very fishy is the drugs in the system. But are they really date rape drugs, or recreational drugs? And even if they are date rape drugs, it doesn't necessarily mean he was pushed as part of a plot. But it is very fishy. He is super lucky to be alive.

You'd think the city would invest in security cameras and more lights. It's not rocket science. But yet the city refuses to do so.

 

[FastRayne]

This case could be linked to cases in Chicago… and I have seen mentions of Houston too

 

[imstilla.grandma]

TMZ released an episode spotlighting persisting rumors of a serial killer in the state's capital city. The Austin Police Department has repeatedly denied the notion in the past, yet true crime enthusiasts and social media users continue to push their curiosity on this unproven narrative.

In the "Strange & Suspicious" segment of TMZ's Sunday, July 14, show, head producer Harvey Levin led a newsroom discussion on what has happened over the past few years that has made people suspicious.

Twelve bodies have been found in Lady Bird Lake since 2022. Authorities ruled some of their causes of death to be accidental drownings or undetermined, but ultimately determined no evidence of foul play was found to have taken place in each case.

"Well if it's undetermined, how can you say it's not a homicide," a TMZ producer said. "In addition to which, when you're doing an autopsy, you should be able to tell whether they died from drowning or some other way, and if you're not disclosing that why not?"

Levin alongside other producers talked about "signs of similarities" between most of the male victims and their sexual orientation which they believe could've made them a target. Some of the men who were identified were determined to be gay and had connections to Rainey Street, which is a popular downtown nightlife district in close proximity to Lady Bird Lake.

"Queer men, bisexual, gay men have certainly been targeted, specifically I think this theory is alluding to apps like Grindr where people are targeting them and there's even a witness statement I think from a bartender who mentioned, 'I want to go after and kill h*m*s,' is what he said," said Sylas Dean, host of CreepTime the Podcast.

WATCH: Rainey Street Serial Killer rumors profiled by TMZ

TMZ profiled the rumors of Austin's alleged serial killer after 12 deaths were reported since 2022 involving Rainey Street and Lady Bird Lake.

www.mysanantonio.com

 

[x_files]

TMZ released an episode spotlighting persisting rumors of a serial killer in the state's capital city. The Austin Police Department has repeatedly denied the notion in the past, yet true crime enthusiasts and social media users continue to push their curiosity on this unproven narrative.

In the "Strange & Suspicious" segment of TMZ's Sunday, July 14, show, head producer Harvey Levin led a newsroom discussion on what has happened over the past few years that has made people suspicious.

Twelve bodies have been found in Lady Bird Lake since 2022. Authorities ruled some of their causes of death to be accidental drownings or undetermined, but ultimately determined no evidence of foul play was found to have taken place in each case.

"Well if it's undetermined, how can you say it's not a homicide," a TMZ producer said. "In addition to which, when you're doing an autopsy, you should be able to tell whether they died from drowning or some other way, and if you're not disclosing that why not?"

Levin alongside other producers talked about "signs of similarities" between most of the male victims and their sexual orientation which they believe could've made them a target. Some of the men who were identified were determined to be gay and had connections to Rainey Street, which is a popular downtown nightlife district in close proximity to Lady Bird Lake.

"Queer men, bisexual, gay men have certainly been targeted, specifically I think this theory is alluding to apps like Grindr where people are targeting them and there's even a witness statement I think from a bartender who mentioned, 'I want to go after and kill h*m*s,' is what he said," said Sylas Dean, host of CreepTime the Podcast.

WATCH: Rainey Street Serial Killer rumors profiled by TMZ

TMZ profiled the rumors of Austin's alleged serial killer after 12 deaths were reported since 2022 involving Rainey Street and Lady Bird Lake.

www.mysanantonio.com

I always wondered if the APD investigated a connection to any dating or hook-up apps.

 

[lightofmine99]

I have to wonder how many of these are actual homicide victims vs. accidental. Have any of the bodies been found inside cars?

 

[Missingpuzzlepiece]

I recently have been watching unsolved serial murder cases and serial murders who were caught and released after some served time.

This case in TX with Lady Bird Lake is so dramatically similar to the wide span of Smokey Face Killings which has never been solved. Are they evolving not using the Smiley face calling card? Or are they not looking for a smiley face at all because law enforcement doesn’t want to declare it a connected possible serial murder case? Or acknowledge those people were murdered period!

The motivation and victims are similar in pattern and Rainy St. is a popular place that seems to be a frequent hunting ground.
I have never been to TX but I
that is a street with a lot of nightlife and bars. Good place to slip some drugs into a drink and follow them out the bar. Prime targeting.

Also just like with the smiley face killings there are days that the victim goes missing and is then found in the lake. In the smiley face case they suspected that they were kidnapping and holding the victims at a location for days before finally killing them. This is another big connection.

Also why? Are they listening and exploiting certain men due to financial status, political activist , employment, or at random? It seems like being in a bar they must have a reason why they zone in on a particular victim. I also wonder if it’s a cult, extremist group or what?
It’s pretty wide span if it is linked tot he smiley face killing perpetrators.

My fear is once this area of TX gets to much exposure and surveillance of the lake, what area could be next?
I’m sure it will be another area with a lot of bar distribution and easy waterway access.

Any thoughts?
Do you think it’s related, seems very relatable to me.

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