GUILTY TX - Haruka Weiser, 18, found murdered, UT-Austin campus, 3 April 2016 *Arrest*

[tlcya]

Thank you Tricia.

I have reinstated some posts in light of your post above.

 

[jjenny]

There is no chance of rehabilitation with this "kid".

Foster care does more to create psychopaths in our society than people realize. Marginalized, abused, neglected, and few have transition plans from foster care. Prison is the most common "plan".

Now it's foster care's fault? Sounds to me that while he was considered to be in foster care, he was often in care of his relatives (grandmother and aunt).

 

[SpanishInquisition]

The bridge would be where she was crossing to get to her dorm. If he had a weapon, which is is assumed or implied that he did, he may have forced her into the creek area where it is dark and overgrown. That is the area where she was found, in the creek area. The bridge is used to cross over to the other side of the campus where there are dorms and other buildings.

This what I'm not getting as it's been described that she was found along the normal way she took along the creek to get to her dorm as I'm trying to understand what the 'pathway' was (paved, cut trail in dirt, something created by foot traffic but not formally made). This is how an article describes her route:

Police say her friends knew her route, which regularly brought her along Waller Creek.

This is the route closest to the creek. It also passes through the area police still had blocked off Thursday night.

Lights line the pathway along Waller Creek. Although there is another way around, this is the route closest to the creek. The lights in some spaces are more dimly lit than in other places on campus

http://kxan.com/2016/04/08/following-ut-homicide-victims-likely-route/
This also is why I think he knew her to some degree where he knew that she was going to take her normal route into the creek rather than walk in a more public and populated area. She just seems like she would have been very recognizable and she could have talked to him at least once prior either because she mistook him for a student or that she would be friendly and chatty to a homeless youth where she told him the creek was her route.

 

[jjenny]

I don't think he knew her or knew her route. I think it's much more likely this was a crime of opportunity and it could have been any female that came along that route. Video doesn't show them either talking or chatting about anything. She is walking and looking at her cell phone, not chatting with him.

 

[Safeguard]

There is no chance of rehabilitation with this "kid".

Foster care does more to create psychopaths in our society than people realize. Marginalized, abused, neglected, and few have transition plans from foster care. Prison is the most common "plan".

I don't see this post as, "blaming" foster care for this crime. While I do believe psychopathic nature is inherent, foster care does often lcause irreparable damage and is a societal nightmare in the making, for kids who already have antisocial leanings.

 

[JeannaT]

There is no chance of rehabilitation with this "kid".

Foster care does more to create psychopaths in our society than people realize. Marginalized, abused, neglected, and few have transition plans from foster care. Prison is the most common "plan".

i completely agree. Foster care so often creates isolated, disconnected kids. That's why the movement now (at least in Texas) is to reunite families rather than put them in foster care. In the recent past Foster care was considered preferable to neglectful bioparents, but now, the focus is on reunited families and training and supporting bioparents rather than focus on finding more long term foster parents.

Foster care is needed in a lot of cases, and his case may be one of those, but typically siblings bond together with the goal of avoiding CPS and thus avoiding foster care.

 

[SpanishInquisition]

I don't think he knew her or knew her route. I think it's much more likely this was a crime of opportunity and it could have been any female that came along that route. Video doesn't show them either talking or chatting about anything. She is walking and looking at her cell phone, not chatting with him.

I'm saying that she had talked to him at least once previously, not that she told him where she was going that night. She was the only person - male or female - that went along that route, which was how he was able to operate down there for so long. I'm just skeptical of coincidences and it's awfully coincidental that he followed the only person that took that route into the creek and also appeared to know that he could operate with impunity during that time in that area. If you're just randomly following people hoping they take a certain route without knowing the people and what to expect along that route, you're not going to spend over an hour engaged in criminal activity along that route when another random classmate of hers could have also used that same path within minutes after getting out of the same class as she did.

 

[JeannaT]

I'm saying that she had talked to him at least once previously, not that she told him where she was going that night. She was the only person - male or female - that went along that route, which was how he was able to operate down there for so long. I'm just skeptical of coincidences and it's awfully coincidental that he followed the only person that took that route into the creek and also appeared to know that he could operate with impunity during that time in that area. If you're just randomly following people hoping they take a certain route without knowing the people and what to expect along that route, you're not going to spend over an hour engaged in criminal activity along that route when another random classmate of hers could have also used that same path within minutes after getting out of the same class as she did.

I think it was purely an accident of luck. If another classmate (a large male or several women) came along, they would have stopped the assault, and you do hear of that happening often enough. By pure accident, he got lucky and no one came along, IMHO.

 

[dotr]

Alleged UT killer's DNA to be submitted for matches in other cities
http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/alle...bmitted-for-matches-in-other-cities/130883820

AUSTIN - Investigators in the case of a University of Texas student who was killed on campus last week said they will submit DNA from the crime scene into law enforcement databases for any possible matches to other crimes across Texas, according to KVUE’s Tony Plohetski.

Investigators also told Plohetski that Weiser appeared to have been randomly targeted and was allegedly sexually assaulted and strangled.

 

[dotr]

Did the accused actually have an " accent " or did he imagine he did, or was it an affectation? imo.

Criner is described as having a thick African accent but is unclear if he was born in the United States or overseas.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-teen-17-dumped-body-creek.html#ixzz45iKyervU
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[Safeguard]

Alleged UT killer's DNA to be submitted for matches in other cities
http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/alle...bmitted-for-matches-in-other-cities/130883820

Wasn't seen again for two hours .
That's chilling to comptelate. Was he down in the bushes that whole time?

Could he have left the immediate crime scene without being seen on camera and then came back around for the bike, or (some reason)?

That's an awfully long time. Two hours

I don't like to think of that frightened young woman, with those stunningly beautiful, incredibly kind looking eyes, down there with a monster all that very long time!

 

[neesaki]

EXCLUSIVE: Mother of 17-year-old alleged murderer of U of Texas ballerina is a convicted prostitute who makes films and took drugs throughout her pregnancy

Vivian Lafrance Criner, 43, was arrested on prostitution charges in Shreveport, La. last September

She has an active warrant out for her arrest

Her homeless youngest son Meechaiel Crinerwho was charged with the murder of Portland dance student Haruka Weiser, 18

Criner, who uses the stage name De Collecter, is currently believed to be in Nevada where she sells X-rated videos for $75 each

Meechaiel's health problems, his uncle told Daily Mail Online, can be traced back to his mother, who was 'on drugs real bad' during her pregnancy


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...te-makes-🤬🤬🤬🤬-films-took-drugs-pregnancy.html

And they call that journalism... yikes, those pics... how shaming and humiliating for the family. I can totally see now why the sister would say she had committed suicide. Or maybe they were led to believe that by the grandparents in an attempt to protect them.

 

[Matlacha]

And they call that journalism... yikes, those pics... how shaming and humiliating for the family. . . .

The Daily Mail didn't pose for those photos, have sex with random men, take drugs during pregnancy, or produce and abandon a <modsnip> child. So yes, as long as the story is accurate, I call it journalism. Just because we hate what Meechaiel Criner did doesn't mean we can't judge the one person who may have done more than anyone else to make him what he became. The most damning thing in the article isn't the photos but the words of the great uncle, so I think the family already knows.

 

[neesaki]

The Daily Mail didn't pose for those photos, have sex with random men, take drugs during pregnancy, or produce and abandon a <modnsip> child. So yes, as long as the story is accurate, I call it journalism. Just because we hate what Meechaiel Criner did doesn't mean we can't judge the one person who may have done more than anyone else to make him what he became. The most damning thing in the article isn't the photos but the words of the great uncle, so I think the family already knows.

You do have a point and I have no problem with this woman being exposed for what she is... other than that she's no doubt reveling in all the free media attention. I was thinking of how the other family members must feel now, it just seems rather cruel, IMO.

 

[Safeguard]

The Daily Mail didn't pose for those photos, have sex with random men, take drugs during pregnancy, or produce and abandon a <modsnip> child. So yes, as long as the story is accurate, I call it journalism. Just because we hate what Meechaiel Criner did doesn't mean we can't judge the one person who may have done more than anyone else to make him what he became. The most damning thing in the article isn't the photos but the words of the great uncle, so I think the family already knows.

True or not, I won't call it, "journalism". I'll choose to call it, "sensationalism", "trash reporting". Cruelty for the sake of profit, as it benefited no one, other than the rag that aired it.

Oh and maybe "the family already knew", as you say, but maybe some didn't,( and why would that matter anyway, exactly?!). Maybe the Daughter in her second year of law school, didn't need that all over campus with all she has to deal with right at the moment. So yeah... It's cruel and it served no purpose, other than providing very small minds, a helping of voyeurism, (and it was clearly written with a heavy slant towards appealing to that sort of Jerry Springer mentality!). JMO

 

[SpanishInquisition]

I've found photos that were taken a few years ago by a bicyclist who went along Waller Creek including going through UT. I don't know if this is necessarily the specific bridge, but it seems to show that she would have crossed the bridge in order to get on the paved side of Waller Creek:
http://s110.photobucket.com/user/TEXASJAM/media/Waller Creek/8.jpg.html

 

[Safeguard]

I've found photos that were taken a few years ago by a bicyclist who went along Waller Creek including going through UT. I don't know if this is necessarily the specific bridge, but it seems to show that she would have crossed the bridge in order to get on the paved side of Waller Creek:
http://s110.photobucket.com/user/TEXASJAM/media/Waller Creek/8.jpg.html

Nice find!
Certainly gives me a much clearer picture of how utterly vulnerable a person alone on that route would be! Wow. Even in the daylight, plenty of areas for a potential attacker to lay in wait, and lots of hidden nooks and underbrush for a crime to take place unseen.

All the more sad as it is really hauntingly beautiful little area! I would have loved such a place as a kid, night or day, I would have been all over that!

Sad how Evil steals beauty from the world, in so many different ways, large and small, that we otherwise could have enjoyed!

 

[lisapr355]

The wooden bridge is the place. The building with the fountain is the alum center at the side.

 

[SpanishInquisition]

Nice find!
Certainly gives me a much clearer picture of how utterly vulnerable a person alone on that route would be! Wow. Even in the daylight, plenty of areas for a potential attacker to lay in wait, and lots of hidden nooks and underbrush for a crime to take place unseen.

All the more sad as it is really hauntingly beautiful little area! I would have loved such a place as a kid, night or day, I would have been all over that!

Sad how Evil steals beauty from the world, in so many different ways, large and small, that we otherwise could have enjoyed!

From what I can tell it looks similar to the area she grew up in at a middle-class commune on acreage where it probably reminded her of home and she probably safely and securing walked at night in the woods of the commune, just the problem is that this is in downtown Austin instead of in the outskirts of Beaverton. I don't blame her for thinking that area was safe, but I do think the school really needs to do more as that place is very easy access for all sorts of big city trouble and colleges are going to get students who aren't streetwise and the assumption has to be that this is all brand new to them where they wouldn't know they're placing themselves in danger.

 

[lisapr355]

Photo of the creek, near where the vigil was held. Please let me know if this is allowed.