GUILTY TX - Heidi Broussard, 33, Fnd Deceased, & Margo Carey, 2 weeks, Fnd Alive, Austin, 12 Dec 2019 #10

[Trudie]

That she didn't go directly to her house?

I’m thinking she stopped along the way to show off baby Margo. Perhaps she visited a sibling or a friend & stayed a day or two. That LE knew Heidi left with MF (presuming she was safe because she left willingly with her bestie) but they could not locate MF. Just a wild guess. There was never a bolo for her vehicle. Despite Caressa & Tim speaking with MF via phone, they would not know her location. Moo

 

[Dave F.]

I don't see that said in this video what you are quoting. "Lt. Brad Herried, the Austin Police Detective in overall charge of the case, stated that Houston police had been "watching the house" since earlier in the week. On a routine drive-by of the watch a Houston police officer spotted an individual of interest OUTSIDE the residence in daylight hours and initiated a legal detainment. "


Queue up to 2 minutes 20 seconds...
I hear "as the week progressed, this current week, a lead was generated that created a location of interest in the Houston area in Harris County. Federal, State and local resources deployed to that area of Harris county and began to investigate a residence there. Ultimately those investigators encountered an individual outside of that residence who was detained on Thursday, December 19th 2019. As the evening progressed a search warrant was issued for property....."

I differ in my conclusion from you that they stated there was a routine drive by of the watch.

I disagree that they stated they had been watching the house since earlier in the week. Investigation of the house could merely be what we have been doing here. e.g. who owns it, who lives there etc.

Although.... I will say, I don't disbelieve that is what happened, if that makes sense. I think we all are still racking our brains as to what was the lead, when they monitored the house at the outset, and did indeed the MF not go home straight after the abduction, but instead went somewhere else prior to going home days after on Thursday. If they were indeed monitoring the house live, why the need to ask the neighbors if the other vehicle was there the night before driving through (or were they asking that as to the night of the abduction?)

You asked: "If they were indeed monitoring the house live, why the need to ask the neighbors if the other vehicle was there the night before driving through (or were they asking that as to the night of the abduction?"
My answer: I don't know.......Maybe to see if the neighbor's camera was picking up anything at all? Do the Houston detectives drive black SUV's? I just don't know. Just a question. Not an opinion.

 

[reeseeva]

Been following from the beginning with a lot of confusing details but the one answer no one seems to know is about the silver Nissan. There was a photo/video a couple of threads back with the car still at the residence the following day. The yellow police tape was gone and there was no supervision . I don’t understand why it wasn’t impounded immediately being the main object of a homicide.

 

[PommyMommy]

I don't see that said in this video what you are quoting. "Lt. Brad Herried, the Austin Police Detective in overall charge of the case, stated that Houston police had been "watching the house" since earlier in the week. On a routine drive-by of the watch a Houston police officer spotted an individual of interest OUTSIDE the residence in daylight hours and initiated a legal detainment. "

Queue up to 2 minutes 20 seconds...
I hear "as the week progressed, this current week, a lead was generated that created a location of interest in the Houston area in Harris County. Federal, State and local resources deployed to that area of Harris county and began to investigate a residence there. Ultimately those investigators encountered an individual outside of that residence who was detained on Thursday, December 19th 2019. As the evening progressed a search warrant was issued for property....."

I differ in my conclusion from you that they stated there was a routine drive by of the watch.

I disagree that they stated they had been watching the house since earlier in the week. Investigation of the house could merely be what we have been doing here. e.g. who owns it, who lives there etc.

Although.... I will say, I don't disbelieve that is what happened, if that makes sense. I think we all are still racking our brains as to what was the lead, when they monitored the house at the outset, and did indeed the MF not go home straight after the abduction, but instead went somewhere else prior to going home days after on Thursday. If they were indeed monitoring the house live, why the need to ask the neighbors if the other vehicle was there the night before driving through (or were they asking that as to the night of the abduction?)

BBM

They were asking about the night of the abduction, IIRC. Sounds like they were trying to confirm CG's story that he was out of town, as has been reported. MOO

 

[Trudie]

. I don’t understand why it wasn’t impounded immediately being the main object of a homicide.

is the Nissan the main object? I’ve yet to find any info about the vehicle HB was found in.
Moo

 

[PommyMommy]

It seems only mid Jan details of investigation will be revealed

New court date set for woman linked to slain mom Heidi Broussard

That’s a BIG maybe imo

Yes, it is. An extension may be granted or the judge may order it unsealed. IOW, it's not a gimme that the probable cause document will be released mid-January. MOO

I'm not suggesting she will or would 'get off' on the charges, I'm wondering if it is possible that she has been sent to a psych hospital for testing to see if she is mentally competent to stand trial.. likely on the demands of her lawyer, and police could possibly be postponing the laying of the murder charge until the findings come back. Considering that this seems to have been a well planned out event, I doubt if MF would be able to claim 'insanity' (for lack of a better word right now), but her legal reps may be scratching the bottom of the barrel to try every avenue in their client's defense?

What other reasons could there possibly be for the delay in laying murder charges under these circumstances?

A psych evaluation won't take place before she is charged. MOO

 

[Trudie]

You asked: "If they were indeed monitoring the house live, why the need to ask the neighbors if the other vehicle was there the night before driving through (or were they asking that as to the night of the abduction?"
My answer: I don't know.......Maybe to see if the neighbor's camera was picking up anything at all? Do the Houston detectives drive black SUV's? I just don't know. Just a question. Not an opinion.

Heidi went missing on Thursday & was found the next Thursday.
I assumed LE wanted to know if HB returned on Thursday 12/12 in the black suv. Because they knew she was with under LE supervision a good part of Thursday 12/19, right?
Or, did she return home in a black suv on 12/19 & LE wanted cam footage as evidence? Moo
(Dazed & confused here.)

 

[Trudie]

A psych evaluation won't take place before she is charged.

She has other charges though. The kidnapping & tampering with a corpse could be enough to warrant an evaluation, imo. Moo

 

[Seattle1]

Forgive me if I'm confused (this case does that to me) but who was sitting on the covered porch with MF in daylight hours if not LE? Was it not dark in TX at 8 pm on the 19th?

eta: maybe it's not the case , just the reporting

Multiple county, state, and federal agencies involved here including Jersey Village police said first to arrive mid day trying to locate a vehicle from earlier tip. I believe those with jurisdiction to exercise the warrants made the 8 - 11 pm timeline. Not less than two dozen LE reported at the scene! MOO

 

[Dave F.]

Been following from the beginning with a lot of confusing details but the one answer no one seems to know is about the silver Nissan. There was a photo/video a couple of threads back with the car still at the residence the following day. The yellow police tape was gone and there was no supervision . I don’t understand why it wasn’t impounded immediately being the main object of a homicide.

In studying the video, it looks to me like the gate opens in the direction of the car, and she backed it up against the gate (effectively locking the only gate). The fence is 6 ft high, sturdy, and not see-through. One of the Houston reporters said they found a policeman guarding the house the next day. There was no marked cruiser seen that next morning, so the officer must have been inside the house. All in all, it seems pretty secure to me. Wwith the armed police guard just a few feet from the Nissan, I would guess it's slightly more secure than it will be at the impound lot.
Another thought is that the driver's side front tire is the spare, and the regular tire appears to be leaned against the garage, with some other stuff that may (or may not) have been removed from the car. A blogger on social media pointed out that there seems to be some minor cracking around the front grille, as if the car had hit something. Could the police have decided to leave the car in place in case the evidence that they gathered indicated that might be a crime scene? I don't know, it's all guesses, or IMO

 

[Trudie]

Wwith the armed police guard just a few feet from the Nissan, I would guess it's slightly more secure than it will be at the impound lot.

In my state, the ME has a very large garage & receives vehicles vital to criminal investigations. Moo

 

[Dave F.]

Heidi went missing on Thursday & was found the next Thursday.
I assumed LE wanted to know if HB returned on Thursday 12/12 in the black suv. Because they knew she was with under LE supervision a good part of Thursday 12/19, right?
Or, did she return home in a black suv on 12/19 & LE wanted cam footage as evidence? Moo
(Dazed & confused here.)

I don't know who owns a black SUV, or who drives one. There are so many false leads, but there is one neighbor who said the police asked her if her security camera picked up a black SUV from the night before. The camera did not see it. IF the police officer had been driving that black SUV the night before, he/she would have known exactly the path it traveled past that neighbor's house, and what time. If the camera missed a black SUV, it would probably miss anything............and it wouldn't be worth the time to review the video further. JMO

 

[Deleted member 718]

I think as soon Heidi's phone records were examined, MF was added to LE's hot list of suspects. Add in LE ability to track cell phones, it became clear something was amiss.

 

[Dave F.]

In my state, the ME has a very large garage & receives vehicles vital to criminal investigations. Moo

It seems like Houston has one large shed-like steel building at 1202 Washington Ave for all of the impounds towed in a sprawling megalopolis. I'm baffled how they hold them all. It has a six foot wire fence around it, with razor wire in a few spots but not all the way around. Could they be waiting for a parking slot to open up? JMO
Property Division

 

[PommyMommy]

Nevermind...

 

[Lillymac]

is the Nissan the main object? I’ve yet to find any info about the vehicle HB was found in.
Moo

That's true. They have only reported a vehicle registered to MF. I've tried to find exact description of the vehicle...only Gray Nissan reported. And this info was reported after the one was found at the home.
But, I have seen several reports of them asking about and looking for Black SUV earlier. No make or model.
If the gray car at the home is the car they found Heidi in, I can't imagine them leaving it there all night. Unless it wasn't structurally able to be towed without some repairs and they waited until daylight to address that.
With no timeline and no clear reporting...it's almost impossible to garner any logic. It's really become a cluster!! jmo

 

[reeseeva]

That's true. They have only reported a vehicle registered to MF. I've tried to find exact description of the vehicle...only Gray Nissan reported. And this info was reported after the one was found at the home.
But, I have seen several reports of them asking about and looking for Black SUV earlier. No make or model.
If the gray car at the home is the car they found Heidi in, I can't imagine them leaving it there all night. Unless it wasn't structurally able to be towed without some repairs and they waited until daylight to address that.
With no timeline and no clear reporting...it's almost impossible to garner any logic. It's really become a cluster!! jmo

Was there any report saying she was found in the trunk of a car registered to MF? If it was the gray car, wouldn’t that be the crime scene, and yet the yellow tape was removed by the next day with the car still there. I would think one of the reporting stations would know if and when it was towed. An SUV doesn’t have a trunk.

 

[Trudie]

I don't know who owns a black SUV, or who drives one. There are so many false leads, but there is one neighbor who said the police asked her if her security camera picked up a black SUV from the night before. The camera did not see it. IF the police officer had been driving that black SUV the night before, he/she would have known exactly the path it traveled past that neighbor's house, and what time. If the camera missed a black SUV, it would probably miss anything............and it wouldn't be worth the time to review the video further. JMO

Michelle Choi‏Verified account @MichelleKHOU
I’m told a silver car parked in the backyard was searched through (still here) along w/ a black SUV (no longer here) parked at the house. Neighbors say the SUV is driven by man who lives here, the silver car by his girlfriend. #khou11#htownrush

(the black suv supposedly driven by a man was mentioned during the activity on 12/19, moo)

 

[susiQ]

Multiple county, state, and federal agencies involved here including Jersey Village police said first to arrive mid day trying to locate a vehicle from earlier tip. I believe those with jurisdiction to exercise the warrants made the 8 - 11 pm timeline. Not less than two dozen LE reported at the scene! MOO

Gotcha! Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Trudie]

Was there any report saying she was found in the trunk of a car registered to MF? If it was the gray car, wouldn’t that be the crime scene, and yet the yellow tape was removed by the next day with the car still there. I would think one of the reporting stations would know if and when it was towed. An SUV doesn’t have a trunk.

It is confusing. This article tells us HB was found dead in trunk of a car & the last sentence (BBM) mentions MF’s car was also at the scene. Moo

Court date pushed back for woman connected to murdered mom Heidi Broussard

Austin mom Heidi Broussard was found dead in the trunk of a car near Houston on Dec. 20 after a week of searching for her and her weeks-old daughter. The child was found alive and is back with family.

• Family gathers for funeral of murdered Austin mom Heidi Broussard

Fieramusca, who a mutual friend said was like a “best friend” to Broussard, was arrested and is listed as being in custody in the Travis County Jail. While at the time police did not name Fieramusca as a suspect, her charges match those of a suspect police said they had in custody. A car registered to Fieramusca was also parked at the home where the child was found.