TX - Houston jogger finds missing baby dumped in bushes

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  • #41
JeannaT said:
So she appears to have recognized the man "from the neighborhood". Indicating - to me - that this convenience store is in fact, in her neighborhood.

After screaming at the clerk and other patrons and getting no reaction (no one else called 911) it seems it would be rational to run back home and call from home, if she was in her neighborhood. How close to the convenience store did she actually live?
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Well, it must be far, because it took her hours.
 
  • #42
JeannaT said:
So she appears to have recognized the man "from the neighborhood". Indicating - to me - that this convenience store is in fact, in her neighborhood.

After screaming at the clerk and other patrons and getting no reaction (no one else called 911) it seems it would be rational to run back home and call from home, if she was in her neighborhood. How close to the convenience store did she actually live?
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Maybe the clerk/other patrons didn't understand her because she was obviously in a huge panic.
 
  • #43
blue22 said:
Well, it must be far, because it took her hours.
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I don't see where it took her "hours". The incident happened at 1:30, and the car was located abandoned at 3:30.

She could have been home by 1:40 and called at that time, from what I've read. Also, it would be unlikely it if were a several hours walk that she would believe she knew the carjacker "from the neighborhood".
 
  • #44
blue22 said:
Well, it must be far, because it took her hours.
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I think it's much more like that article got it's timeline wrong.
3:30 am is when the abandoned car was found, not when mother called 911.
 
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He apartment is a few blocks from the gas station. Video supports her story. She was inside screaming, no one helped her, she run several blocks to her apartment, broke the door and called 911. The woman was obviously frantic.
She didn't have her cell phone because it was in her stolen car.

"Appearing to be frustrated, police said, because no one appeared to help her, she left and ran the few blocks to her apartment. Neighbors told Local 2 she kicked down her own door, went inside and called 911 herself. An Amber Alert was issued shortly thereafter."

http://www.click2houston.com/news/amber-alert-canceled-after-8monthold-baby-found-safe/26614728
 
  • #47
Wow...very harsh neighborhood to live in - where people stand around a gas station and refuse to acknowledge a woman screaming madly that her daughter was just kidnapped by someone who took her car from the parking lot.

Not only the clerk - but the rest of the people who "wouldn't help her".
 
  • #48
threecrazykids said:
Wow...very harsh neighborhood to live in - where people stand around a gas station and refuse to acknowledge a woman screaming madly that her daughter was just kidnapped by someone who took her car from the parking lot.

Not only the clerk - but the rest of the people who "wouldn't help her".
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Sure is. The only thing I can think of is that maybe they didn't understand what she was saying.
 
  • #49
If it is true that people refused to notify police that a baby had been stolen, is it any sort of legal crime?

It's definitely a moral crime, but I'd like to know if they could at least be fined or something. And the employee of the gas station should receive retraining, and the owners of that station should apologize.

Again, if it is true. I find it so difficult to believe. No-one was at risk, there was no crazy gunman running around. Just a stolen baby. In this sort of situation it more often happens that some recklessly brave person goes after the criminal. I find it hard to accept people in Houston could be so uncaring.
 
  • #50
Which gas station was it? Because I'm acually surprised there hasn't been an apology already.
 
  • #51
zwiebel said:
Which gas station was it? Because I'm acually surprised there hasn't been an apology already.
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I think jjenny might be right - that they couldn't understand what she was saying. I've been out at Walmart at that time of night, and you do see a lot of stuff you just don't see in the day - she may have appeared mentally ill rather than in an emergency crisis.
 
  • #52
zwiebel said:
If it is true that people refused to notify police that a baby had been stolen, is it any sort of legal crime?

It's definitely a moral crime, but I'd like to know if they could at least be fined or something. And the employee of the gas station should receive retraining, and the owners of that station should apologize.

Again, if it is true. I find it so difficult to believe. No-one was at risk, there was no crazy gunman running around. Just a stolen baby. In this sort of situation it more often happens that some recklessly brave person goes after the criminal. I find it hard to accept people in Houston could be so uncaring.
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It's on video. She was screaming, nobody helped her. But she was in such a panic, maybe they didn't understand what she was saying.
You can't really charge someone for not calling 911 (unless it's a Sienfeld finale).
 
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jjenny said:
Sure is. The only thing I can think of is that maybe they didn't understand what she was saying.
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So...I promise, I'm not trying to be mean when I say this, but...how could they not understand what she was saying? Does she not speak English? I'm asking an honest question here.

If it were me in the situation and someone was frantically screaming for help and I couldn't understand I would grab them by the shoulders and scream "calm the bleep down so I can help you!...what do you need me to do?"

I just can't fathom a woman screaming that her child was abducted and NO ONE reacting to that...or were the customers nothing more than the buddies of the person who stole the car?!

The clerk should have at least called LE - even if you aren't going to let her use the phone - if nothing more than to report some crazy woman screaming that her baby had been abducted from your stations parking lot.
 
  • #57
Well, they didn't call LE. It's on video. One would have to ask them why they didn't, because I have no clue.
 
  • #58
I'm hopeless. I have found the station on google, but when I try and link, it's only a picture?

Is it my ipad?

http://www.11alive.com/picture-gallery/news/nation/2014/06/23/baby-found-on-side-of-road/11271989/

Anyway. on google this article says:


"23 hours ago - According to the Houston Police Department, the baby was in her mother's car at the Texaco Gas Station at 1110 North Sam Houston Parkway ..."

I am going to look at the Texaco corporate press dept now, to see what - if anything - they've had to say.
 
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  • #60
jjenny said:
Well, they didn't call LE. It's on video. One would have to ask them why they didn't, because I have no clue.
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Can you repost the link to the store video? I can't find it.

I want to do a little "behavior analysis" of the video...particularly on the body language of those seen standing around and also of the mother screaming frantically and the clerk's reaction as well.
 
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