• #2,621
Correct Carl from my understanding is. Thank you for the welcome. I have followed this case for quite a while. Lots of interesting stuff in this thread and I think it’s great how all are working together to bring closure in these type cases.

I have have just recently decided to try to become more involved and try to dig some myself. At this point I would imagine her killer is likely dead or in jail but I sure would love to see her identity recovered. God bless her soul.
 
  • #2,622
Fyi the "girl" in question is the girl "Kathy or Kathleen". Brought forward in the 2015 development.

The girl mentioned by Theresa may or may not be "Kathy" from the motel pic. My understanding was that "the girl" was in reference to the reconstructions of WCJD.

There has not been any specific connection of "Elaine" at Wagner's Carnival Co. to motel "Kathy".
 
  • #2,623
Thank you for the clarification Carl.
 
  • #2,624
Can a Reddit post be linked as MSM?


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  • #2,625
Ok, I don’t need to link the Reddit post because most of the information is over on the Lyle Stevik’s thread. I’ll put it below. Anyways, over on the Lyle Stevik’s Reddit page where this news is listed, one comment asks if Walker County Jane Doe could possibly be the next case they look into. The geneticists replied back that they would look into it.
Obviously this isn’t a guarantee of anything, but it’s exciting to think that there may be progress in her case and that maybe just maybe she can finally be identified.
Hi folks, Someone told me about these recent posts so I registered in order to make some corrections. Colleen Fitzpatrick and I have recently started DNA Doe Project – our website (under construction) is dnadoeproject.org. Our purpose is to tackle unidentified John and Jane Does by raising funds for specialized lab testing of their DNA, then attempting to locate their families as we do when we help adoptees looking for theirs. We are working on three cases at the moment and just agreed to take on Lyle Stevik as our fourth. The ME is making arrangements to get the sample to the lab to test its quality and concentration. We have been providing details to the Reddit group and Facebook group “Can You Identify Lyle Stevik” today and people are already pledging donations to cover the expensive sequencing needed in cases like these. (He can’t spit in a vial and do and Ancestry DNA test.) We are accepting donations toward existing and future cases (by check, until paypal is set up – see our website dnadoeproject.org) but are telling people to hold off on donations earmarked specifically for Lyle, until we know the DNA is good enough to proceed. That will NOT be this weekend – more likely a couple of weeks. We’ll update all the forums and our website when we have those results. The good news is, if the DNA is sufficient, we’ve nearly reached our funding goal in the few hours since our involvement was posted.

We do want everyone to understand that the odds of successful identification are not huge – there are many challenges with these sorts of cases. So each is a gamble. We’ve put in our own funds as well. The cause is so worth it, and even a slim chance of success where CODIS and tips and all else have failed, would be phenomenal.

Thank you for your interest,

Margaret Press, PhD
Cofounder DNA Doe Project.




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  • #2,626
Ok, I don’t need to link the Reddit post because most of the information is over on the Lyle Stevik’s thread. I’ll put it below. Anyways, over on the Lyle Stevik’s Reddit page where this news is listed, one comment asks if Walker County Jane Doe could possibly be the next case they look into. The geneticists replied back that they would look into it.
Obviously this isn’t a guarantee of anything, but it’s exciting to think that there may be progress in her case and that maybe just maybe she can finally be identified.




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That's great - it's really going to be DNA work that solves so many of these old cases I think. How exciting to think about how many families will get closure and/or get reunited with their loved ones in future.
 
  • #2,627
That's great - it's really going to be DNA work that solves so many of these old cases I think. How exciting to think about how many families will get closure and/or get reunited with their loved ones in future.

They're solving a lot with the new fingerprint technology and updates to AFIS, too. It may not help in this case, but a handful were solved last year.
 
  • #2,628
Great news. Hope this leads to more and more opportunities to provide closure to families in this one and similar cases.
 
  • #2,629
Yes, I'm the one who asked! lol. I really hope she looks into it and I explained that she's a very popular case that would get funded quickly.
 
  • #2,630
Since you guys are talking about the DNA Doe Project you might all like to know that Lyle Stevik's DNA passed quality control and they are now taking donations for DNA sequencing.
 
  • #2,631
I have questioned that myself. Yes they had his truck in AZ, when they arrested him. From Graveyard Shift "In Robert Ben Rhoades's truck, authorities recovered a briefcase filled with sex toys and torture devices which the hitchhiker said the trucker had used to abuse her over the course of several hours. Inside the briefcase, officers found dildos, alligator clips, handcuffs, leashes, and whips, as well as pins which Rhoades had used to pierce the young woman's nipples and genitals".
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They also searched his Houston area home, where they found nude pictures of Walsh and Walters. He was one sick puppy!
 
  • #2,632
I got another tip on WWWCJD. Not sure if it is credible, but it is interesting. I have to redact the tipster's name and the name of the Huntsville resident referenced in the woman's tip.

_____________________

[Redacted]
Awhile back I saw the Walker Co Jane Doe feature on my Facebook feed. At frst, I wondered why I didn't remember the case since there had to be a Huntsville media blitz, but then I didn't take the newspaper or listen to the radio.

Anyway, some details in the article triggered a memory of a young girl my husband and I gave a ride to from Oakhurst to Huntsville years ago. The photo didn't jump out at me, but the clothing similarities was spot on, odd necklace, yellow clothing, strappy sandels. My nagging gut feeling says the young girl was possibly this Jane Doe.

She didn't give a name that I recollect but did say she was from Aransas Pass area on the coast. At the time, I wasn't familiar with that area and asked if it was near Three Rivers...a town Dad had talked about. When I asked about family, she offered up, who cares. My first thought was she may be a runaway from a juvenile detention center in Oakhurst...if one existed.

We dropped her off at the [Redacted] house on 13th Street in Huntsville and I think he may have worked at TDC. I don't know why my husband thought she could stay there or how he even knew them. I knew the daughters from school. Later on when I asked him if he had heard anything else about how she was doing, he said Mr. [Redacted] said she had headed out to somewhere else.

I didn't notice the model of [Redacted] car, but he could have been the one that dropped her off at service station. If he did work for TDC, maybe she was trying to contact him. The [Redacted] girls may remember something, but I don't even know if they were still living at home at the time.

Irregardless, do you think this information would provide any new leads in this unsolved tragedy.

I contacted Walker County Sheriff's Office and shared this information a few months ago.

_______________
Who Was Walker County Jane Doe?
Thank you for the information. I will pass this on to them, even though you say you already did.

_______________
[Redacted]
I ran it past Detective Billingsley first since he had worked cold case (went to school with him) and he said to share with Sheriff's office so I did.
 
  • #2,633
I got another tip on WWWCJD. Not sure if it is credible, but it is interesting. I have to redact the tipster's name and the name of the Huntsville resident referenced in the woman's tip.

_____________________

I think it's very interesting CarlK.
 
  • #2,634
Interesting possibility, CarlK
Thanks for passing it along.
 
  • #2,635
AddiesMom found something very interesting. The name of the man referenced in this tip is the exact same somewhat uncommon name as a man arrested in Guadalupe county in 1981 for "aggravated attempted rape". The man (whose initials are BRS) attempted to rape a 13 year old Mexican immigrant girl, threatening her with a shotgun. As the girl attempted to flee, he fired the shotgun at her (which missed), and then rammed her with his truck, knocking her into a barbed wire fence before driving away.

This BRS is not the same BRS referenced in the tip who lived in Huntsville. The arrested man was born about 1945. Huntsville BRS was much older.
 
  • #2,636
Incidentally, TDC mentioned in the tip is the Texas Department of Corrections.
 
  • #2,637
Wow! Definitely worth looking into. Gave me the goosebumps reading that. Hope something comes of the info, she deserves her name back.
 
  • #2,638
AddiesMom found something very interesting. The name of the man referenced in this tip is the exact same somewhat uncommon name as a man arrested in Guadalupe county in 1981 for "aggravated attempted rape". The man (whose initials are BRS) attempted to rape a 13 year old Mexican immigrant girl, threatening her with a shotgun. As the girl attempted to flee, he fired the shotgun at her (which missed), and then rammed her with his truck, knocking her into a barbed wire fence before driving away.

This BRS is not the same BRS referenced in the tip who lived in Huntsville. The arrested man was born about 1945. Huntsville BRS was much older.

I know it's not the same BRS but that incident in Guadalupe county feels so oddly coincidental in timeframes, same name, etc!
 
  • #2,639
I sure hope that isn't an attempted troll. I am still a bit leery after someone attempted a troll job on the Buckskin Girl thread.
 
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