TX TX - Iola, near Bull Creek Bridge, WhtFem 13-19, UP4611, 1904 coin ring, mechanic's cloth, Oct'81

[Alleykins]

So one of the articles that was published last night - the DA of Ottawa County, Mark Wall said he received a "tip" which led him to this Jane Doe in Texas. So the B*tch that I became, messaged the Ottawa Sheriff's Dept and asked why he was trying to take credit - supposedly he has been working on her case for awhile and leading to dead ends. They gave him all the information that I sent them and he ran with it. At least he was able to get into contact with the Jane Doe's correct contact unlike myself.

I wouldn't have let this bother me so much but I matched a case in 2013- 2014 in Cleveland OH (both the missing and UID were in NamUs) - I was interviewed by LE by phone was told what a good job I did - then my friend that lives in that area sent me an article in their newspaper where LE took credit in making the match.

My main focus here is to give this Jane Doe her name back and to find out what happened to Sheryl. I just needed to vent above.

I knew it was you, Chaddylex!

 

[John/Jane Doe]

https://www.facebook.com/100063534672292/posts/657937779667372

 

[John/Jane Doe]

Authorities find relative in missing Picher girl case; awaiting DNA results

MIAMI, Okla. – An older sister of Cheryl Taylor, a Picher girl missing for 45 years, is providing Texas authorities with a DNA sample in hopes it is a match to the unidentified body of a teen found…

www.fourstateshomepage.com

 

[John/Jane Doe]

Authorities find relative in missing Picher girl case; awaiting DNA results

MIAMI, Okla. – An older sister of Cheryl Taylor, a Picher girl missing for 45 years, is providing Texas authorities with a DNA sample in hopes it is a match to the unidentified body of a teen found…

www.fourstateshomepage.com

They found an older sister of Sheryl/Cheryl now we have to wait for the DNA results.

 

[victoriarobinson642]

Ellis and Schaper have been working for years to identify Grimes County Jane Doe.

The profile showed a possible connection on Jane Doe’s paternal side to Sapulpa, Oklahoma.

The sister said the family didn’t live in Sapulpa but published reports showed the family had moved from Nowata County to Picher shortly before Cheryl disappeared.

Some of the similarities are unbelievable, Wall, Ellis, and Schaper said in separate interviews.

The profile showed that Grimes County Jane Doe had red or auburn hair. Cheryl Taylor had red hair.

 

[Alleykins]

Great news.

 

[HmmMysterious]

Ellis and Schaper have been working for years to identify Grimes County Jane Doe.

The profile showed a possible connection on Jane Doe’s paternal side to Sapulpa, Oklahoma.

The sister said the family didn’t live in Sapulpa but published reports showed the family had moved from Nowata County to Picher shortly before Cheryl disappeared.

Some of the similarities are unbelievable, Wall, Ellis, and Schaper said in separate interviews.

The profile showed that Grimes County Jane Doe had red or auburn hair. Cheryl Taylor had red hair.

That part about Jane Doe's paternal side possibly coming from Oklahoma completely stunned me. Maybe Iola Jane Doe really is Sheryl.

 

[John/Jane Doe]

OK - OK - Sheryl/Cheryl Denise Taylor, 12, Picher, July 1978

Not in Namus, nor can I find a thread. CRIME What happened to a Picher teen missing for 45 years? by: Sheila Stogsdill Posted: Jan 12, 2023 / 03:46 PM CST Updated: Jan 12, 2023 / 04:22 PM CST Sheryl Taylor hasn't been seen since July 20, 1978 PICHER, Okla. — A retired law enforcement...

www.websleuths.com

 

[SimsGuy67]

I know where they moved from. It wasn't Sapulpa but was a small town named Alluwe. I'd say that ring was probably the birth year of a family member? Possibly even a marriage year or family heirloom.

 

[John/Jane Doe]

https://www.facebook.com/265261523636998/posts/2377679402395189

 

[Alleykins]

Great article!

 

[imstilla.grandma]

ola, TX

Who killed these young girls and dumped them near Texas highways?​

Michele Freeman11 hours ago

What kind of person can murder a young girl, put her body in a garbage bag, and dump her off the side of a Texas highway?
For these three different cases where female bodies were found in trash bags tossed into ditches and fields, all we have are their skeletal remains. And the stories their bones tell us about their last moments on this earth.
October 29, 1981 - Grimes County Jane Doe

A pencil sketch of what Grimes County Jane Doe may look like.Photo byNaMus

A highway worker discovered a garbage bag of human bones off the FM 244 highway in Iola, Texas. Inside, investigators found the skeletal remains of a white girl with auburn hair. The only clues left behind with her were a pair of pink panties, a white towel, a mechanic's drop cloth, and a ring made from a replica $20 Saint-Gaudens double eagle coin.
The medical examiner's autopsy revealed that the girl died from blunt force trauma to the head.
The ME also discovered the girl had extensive dental work, including 13 fillings, and she had healed rib, breastbone, and toe fractures. The rest of the information is educated guesswork: She was thirteen to nineteen years old, likely a few inches over five feet tall, and may have weighed 110 pounds.
And there's one more grim detail: she was likely kept in a cool, dry place for one to five years after her death. Where was she located before her killer tossed the garbage bag filled with her bones into the ten foot ditch next to FM 244?

We may never know.

For now, her home is Grimes County, Texas, and her caretakers are the investigators from the Grimes County Sheriff's Criminal Investigation Department.

DNA was obtained from the Grimes County Jane Doe and uploaded into CODIS (Combined DNA Index System), but no matches have been made. If you have any information about this cold case homicide or wish to submit your DNA, please contact Grimes County Sheriff's Office at (936) 873-2151.

Who killed these young girls and dumped them near Texas highways? | Michele Freeman | NewsBreak Original

What kind of person can murder a young girl, put her body in a garbage bag, and dump her off the side of a Texas highway?. For these three different cases where female bodies were found in trash bags tossed into ditches and fields, all we have are their skeletal remains. And the stories their...

original.newsbreak.com

 

[Michele_Writes]

ola, TX

Who killed these young girls and dumped them near Texas highways?​

Michele Freeman11 hours ago

What kind of person can murder a young girl, put her body in a garbage bag, and dump her off the side of a Texas highway?
For these three different cases where female bodies were found in trash bags tossed into ditches and fields, all we have are their skeletal remains. And the stories their bones tell us about their last moments on this earth.
October 29, 1981 - Grimes County Jane Doe

A pencil sketch of what Grimes County Jane Doe may look like.Photo byNaMus

A highway worker discovered a garbage bag of human bones off the FM 244 highway in Iola, Texas. Inside, investigators found the skeletal remains of a white girl with auburn hair. The only clues left behind with her were a pair of pink panties, a white towel, a mechanic's drop cloth, and a ring madI we from a replica $20 Saint-Gaudens double eagle coin.
The medical examiner's autopsy revealed that the girl died from blunt force trauma to the head.
The ME also discovered the girl had extensive dental work, including 13 fillings, and she had healed rib, breastbone, and toe fractures. The rest of the information is educated guesswork: She was thirteen to nineteen years old, likely a few inches over five feet tall, and may have weighed 110 pounds.
And there's one more grim detail: she was likely kept in a cool, dry place for one to five years after her death. Where was she located before her killer tossed the garbage bag filled with her bones into the ten foot ditch next to FM 244?

We may never know.

For now, her home is Grimes County, Texas, and her caretakers are the investigators from the Grimes County Sheriff's Criminal Investigation Department.

DNA was obtained from the Grimes County Jane Doe and uploaded into CODIS (Combined DNA Index System), but no matches have been made. If you have any information about this cold case homicide or wish to submit your DNA, please contact Grimes County Sheriff's Office at (936) 873-2151.

Who killed these young girls and dumped them near Texas highways? | Michele Freeman | NewsBreak Original

What kind of person can murder a young girl, put her body in a garbage bag, and dump her off the side of a Texas highway?. For these three different cases where female bodies were found in trash bags tossed into ditches and fields, all we have are their skeletal remains. And the stories their...

original.newsbreak.com

I wrote this article. I think the Iola Jane Doe might be Patricia Lynn Taylor. Rather than Sheryl Denise Taylor. Also ... both their last names are Taylor? Both have red hair and green eyes. Both from Oklahoma. Weird coincidence.

 

[chaddylex]

Cheryl is not the Iola TX/Grimes County Jane Doe. They are still testing to see if she will match to another Jane Doe. DNA not a match for missing Picher girl

 

[chaddylex]

I wrote this article. I think the Iola Jane Doe might be Patricia Lynn Taylor. Rather than Sheryl Denise Taylor. Also ... both their last names are Taylor? Both have red hair and green eyes. Both from Oklahoma. Weird coincidence.

I think Patricia would be a good match, now considering the Jane Doe isn’t Cheryl. The only thing I wonder is both the Jane Doe and Patricia should have DNA in Codis - you would think they would have been matched. They aren’t on one another’s rule out list though

 

[Alleykins]

I think Patricia would be a good match, now considering the Jane Doe isn’t Cheryl. The only thing I wonder is both the Jane Doe and Patricia should have DNA in Codis - you would think they would have been matched. They aren’t on one another’s rule out list though

They wouldn't be on each other's rule out list because it would have been an auto rule out through CODIS, and they don't list those. I was told the ones we see in NamUs are manual rule-outs. I think they make exceptions when they're constantly inundated with the same potential matches.
The NamUs rep said it would be impossible to list all the auto rule-outs because there are so many.
But I always say, when in doubt, submit.

 

[SimsGuy67]

They wouldn't be on each other's rule out list because it would have been an auto rule out through CODIS, and they don't list those. I was told the ones we see in NamUs are manual rule-outs. I think they make exceptions when they're constantly inundated with the same potential matches.
The NamUs rep said it would be impossible to list all the auto rule-outs because there are so many.
But I always say, when in doubt, submit.

I'd always submit, just to make sure. We all have no idea what can slip through the cracks.

 

[Alleykins]

I'd always submit, just to make sure. We all have no idea what can slip through the cracks.

IKR? This one always gets me:

20-year-old cold case solved after murdered mom and son ID’d by DNA

The unidentified bodies of a woman and a 10-year-old boy found along an interstate in separate states 20 years ago have been identified thanks to an online DNA database, international police, and a…

nypost.com

In hindsight, it was sorta obvious these two were related, but because they were found in different states, it appears no one exchanged info and no one connected the dots. But, when we go looking for matches, it's usually not between sets of unidentified remains, but UP's and MP's. I don't think we ever figured out if their DNA was in CODIS at the same time, or if neither were, or if one was, and the other was held locally. Because the NamUs rep said DNA of unidentified remains are compared to each other in CODIS, too. Either someone dropped the ball there, or one or both DNA profiles weren't in CODIS. But this is why I encourage people to submit.
Has someone submitted Patricia for this set of remains already? I can't remember.

 

[chaddylex]

They wouldn't be on each other's rule out list because it would have been an auto rule out through CODIS, and they don't list those. I was told the ones we see in NamUs are manual rule-outs. I think they make exceptions when they're constantly inundated with the same potential matches.
The NamUs rep said it would be impossible to list all the auto rule-outs because there are so many.
But I always say, when in doubt, submit.

I agree. I don't remember who, but I know different people have said in the past that a Jane Doe and a missing person are probably ruled out in CODIS, but just didn't make the NamUs rule out list. I saw too, to submit anyway!

 

[Alleykins]

Submitted Patricia Taylor.

In March, 2018, Patricia was submitted. So, I'm thinking she was ruled out already.