GUILTY TX - Jacob West for kidnap, sexual abuse of 14yo girl, Houston, 2013

  • #221
Had to look it up, cause I wasn't sure of the exact definition:
The term "statutory rape" generally refers to sex between an adult and a sexually mature minor past the age of puberty. Sexual relations with a prepubescent child, generically called "child molestation", is typically treated as a more serious crime.

Statutory rape generally is any sex that occurrs when a person consents, but does not have the legal right to. Hence statutory. There isn't an age limit. No injury is inflicted, but there is a legal prohibition because consent is not recognized even if given. So, it could be sex with a minor, sex with someone who is intoxicated or under the influence of something, sex with someone who is mentally handicapped, things like that.

It is different from an act of rape, where an injury is inflicted.

The law treats them similarly, but they are not the same thing.

Under the age of 14 (typically) there is a different charge, something like "lewd and lascivious conduct with a child", which has broader scope (thus easier to prove) and typically has a harsher punishment. So the perp usually gets charged with that if the victim is under 14. Sometimes they get charged with both. If you look at what Philip Garrido was charged with for example, you will see both charges when she was under 14, but only the rape charge over 14.
 
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I'm confused, too.

All the different versions I recall:

*Haylie lived with her mom.
*Haylie moved out of mom's house into her uncle's house b/c mom lived next door to JW. Trying to keep Haylie & JW separated.
*People warned the family about the relationship between Haylie & JW, but the family felt JW was treating Haylie just like he would his own daughters.
*Haylie lived with grandma & grandma had custody.
*Haylie snuck out of the window(s) at grandma's house to see JW.
*Haylie & JW "ran off" together on 1/15/13 but a law enforcement officer found them shortly thereafter.


''*People warned the family about the relationship between Haylie & JW, but the family felt JW was treating Haylie just like he would his own daughters.''''

This is what I'm afraid of.. he treated her just like one of his daughters. UGH ! :(
 
  • #224
I thought they charged him with ag.SA the other day ? So that they would have warrants to him which would make the search get more attention. Not only has he stolen a child, but he's wanted for sex crimes .
 
  • #225
http://www.kens5.com/news/Amber-Ale...y-took-14-year-old-Texas-girl--188417381.html

Haylie's grandmother says she asked West about a relationship between the two:




:what:

I don't know what to say.... Actually, I do, but I can't. :banghead:

OMG! :what:

I think I know what you're thinking and I think I agree!! Did grandma think he would tell her what was really going on??? Did she believe him??

So they all knew she was sneaking out to be with this guy and they do... nothing? No restraining order?

I don't use emoticons very often, but this requires one :banghead:
 
  • #226
I keep hoping I am going to check in and see that Haylie has been found! As far as her family calling her a "baby," thats the way you see your kids. After all, she is 14. In the world her grandmother grew up in, that was the age for sleepovers and playing records and learning to sew and cook. Of course things have changed a lot in this generation and girls look older than that truly are. But I agree with the family....Haylie is very young and especially so in understanding how these actions will affect her for the rest of her life.

I don't care if Haylie begged and pleaded, this man should not have taken her or encouraged a sexual interest. In truth, I think he is the one that is preying on her innocence and her teenaged desire to look and be older. Basically, we are dealing with a predator. And it would do well if he could be found and prosecuted to the full extent.


I agree with you totally! It doesn't matter what her family thinks about her, to them she is a baby and not old enough to make these kinds of decisions. That's why we have laws in place, to try to deter men from taking advantage of a child. By law, no matter whether she consents or not, or even if she instigated the whole thing, it is illegal, and he knows that, hence the hiding out. He is in a world of trouble and he knows it.

Yes, he is a predator. And he needs to be put away for a long time.
 
  • #227
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Still no news?

I kept up with the recent Brooklyn Gittins case here on WS. She is a 13 yo Utah girl who left her home in the middle of the night after calling a 55 year old man to pick her up. Her family knew the man as he was a previous neighbor. She was reported missing by family who did not know she called anyone to pick her up. She had a cell phone but left it in her room. Later it was found out that the 55 yo man gave BG a non traceable phone that she could call him on.

Anyway, if you are interested in reading here is the link:

Found Safe UT - *Arrest Made* -Brooklyn Gittins, 13 years old, Herriman, 8-Jan-2013 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community


The cases are similar, except BG did not have a relationship and there was no sexual contact as far as has been reported thus far. Charges were filed yesterday against the man. He is in jail and has a $150,000 bond. Here is a link to the latest article regarding charges which will probably be the minimum that this West guy will face, provided he is still alive.

http://fox13now.com/2013/01/25/man-charged-with-kidnapping-herriman-girl/
 
  • #229
I am really hoping Haylie will become fearful and call home....
 
  • #230
I do think she will be found. I have a good feeling about it. But I don't think the troubles around her will end there.

That pregnancy possibility keeps rattling around in my own brain.
 
  • #231
Restraint is "without consent" if it is
accomplished by:
(A) force, intimidation, or deception; or
(B) any means, including acquiescence of the
victim, if
:

(ii) the victim is a child who is 14 years of age or older and younger than 17 years of age, the victim is taken outside of the state and outside a 120-mile radius from the victim's residence, and the parent, guardian, or person or institution acting in loco parentis has not acquiesced in the movement.

§ 20.04. AGGRAVATED KIDNAPPING. (a) A person commits an
offense if he intentionally or knowingly abducts another person
with the intent to:
(1) hold him for ransom or reward;
(2) use him as a shield or hostage;
(3) facilitate the commission of a felony or the
flight after the attempt or commission of a felony;
(4) inflict bodily injury on him or violate or abuse
him sexually;

(5) terrorize him or a third person; or
(6) interfere with the performance of any governmental
or political function.
(b) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally
or knowingly abducts another person and uses or exhibits a deadly
weapon during the commission of the offense.
(c) Except as provided by Subsection (d), an offense under
this section is a felony of the first degree.
(d) At the punishment stage of a trial, the defendant may
raise the issue as to whether he voluntarily released the victim in
a safe place.
If the defendant proves the issue in the affirmative
by a preponderance of the evidence, the offense is a felony of the
second degree.

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.
Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept. 1,
1994; Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 318, § 4, eff. Sept. 1, 1995.

It's not only kidnapping but aggrevated kidnapping in the first degree if a sexual assault occurred. What I really question is the info I've bolded in RED. So if he kept her in the state of TX and within a 120 mile radius of her home...the aggrevated kidnapping charges doesn't apply? Does this make sense or am I missing something? My word! The crimes could all be committed and she be only a block from her home!!!!

It charges would be reduced to 2nd degree if the defendent can show he released her at some point...in a safe place.

http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/PE/htm/PE.20.HTM
 
  • #232
I believe that unlawful restraint and kidnapping are 2 different crimes. A person can be charged/convicted of aggravated kidnapping without being charged with unlawful restraint, MOO.
 
  • #233
It would also be kidnapping because she is a minor without the consent of her parents/guarding, etc. Doesn't matter if went willingly or not. This guy is in big trouble. IMO

BBM:

And he will be in even bigger trouble if he has transported Haylie over state lines.
 
  • #234
I believe that unlawful restraint and kidnapping are 2 different crimes. A person can be charged/convicted of aggravated kidnapping without being charged with unlawful restraint, MOO.

It certainly could be both now if he is holding her against her will, IMO. I'll just bet the thrill of him is gone by now and she just wants to be home. Just my opinion, of course!
 
  • #235
I found a "missing" FB page for Haylie. The link is below. It has an update posted that the color of West's vehicle is not silver, but dark gray. Family has hired a PI. There's a couple of pictures of Haylie that I haven't seen before and a missing poster in Spanish. Also, there's a post asking for someone near Hendersonville NC or Palm Coast FL to please contact. Doesn't say why - putting up posters maybe?

The vehicle is a ***DARK GRAY*** (not silver) 2005 GMC Envoy with Texas license plate AT4 2794.

https://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/Help-Find-Haylie-White-Missing-from-Houston-Texas/399421313482383
 
  • #236
RED. [/COLOR]So if he kept her in the state of TX and within a 120 mile radius of her home...the aggrevated kidnapping charges doesn't apply? Does this make sense or am I missing something? My word! The crimes could all be committed and she be only a block from her home!!!!

It charges would be reduced to 2nd degree if the defendent can show he released her at some point...in a safe place.

The kidnapping would only apply if there was an intent to commit sexual assault (according to the code cited).

So, if sex did occur subsequently, but they could not show that was the intent for running off, technically the charge shouldn't be made.

I'm curious about this SA charge. Don't you require that someone be arrested first before they are charged?
 
  • #237
I'm curious about this SA charge. Don't you require that someone be arrested first before they are charged?

Snipped by me for relevance.

IMO, maybe through LE questioning of family and/or friends, etc., it was determined that JW and Haylie had already had sexual relations which would equate to JW having committed sexual assault, more specifically, statutory rape due to the fact that Hailey is a minor and their ages differ more than (significantly more than) three years.
 
  • #238
The kidnapping would only apply if there was an intent to commit sexual assault (according to the code cited).

So, if sex did occur subsequently, but they could not show that was the intent for running off, technically the charge shouldn't be made.

I'm curious about this SA charge. Don't you require that someone be arrested first before they are charged?

Not necessarily.

To get the arrest warrant, LE had to submit an affidavit of probable cause to the judge.
 
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