GUILTY TX - Jake Kimbley, 2, Smith County, 21 Aug 2012

[Leilei]

OH MY WORD!!!

That does break my heart. What those poor children must have seen and gone through. How do conditions get that bad without SOMEBODY noticing? It obviously didn't happen overnight. What about the older children's school? I just want to give each of those children a warm bath, a good meal and tuck them into clean beds and tell them everything was going to be okay.

I forgot to welcome you, so, welcome

I agree, and am hoping that whoever they are with right now are giving them everything they need and much more. I worry for his twin brother - even at 2 years old he would know that his brother is gone, but wouldn't know the hows and whys. It has to be scary for him.

I am anxiously waiting for the autopsy results. I'm hoping that they can give us a time of death, because I still think Jake was "missing" much longer than they said. We'll see. In the meantime, I'm just going to bite my tongue, as what I believe happened may not be true. (I'll eat a big old crow dinner if it's not what I think, though). :moo:

 

[Mattsmom32]

Thanks for the welcomes. I've been here off and on since 2008, but don't post much.

This case just hit home because my son was so difficult at age 2 because of his autism. There were times when I just had to put him in his crib for 5 or 10 minutes and go in the other room for a break. I was also lucky enough to have a fantastic mother in law who lived 5 minutes away if things got really stressful. BUT, I ALWAYS made sure he was safe.

If you're an adult with a child, the child comes first.

Leilei, I'm sure most of us have the same thoughts as to what happened.

 

[Knox]

TYLER, TX (KLTV) - KLTV just spoke with Reeve Jackson, who is representing Sabrina Kimbley.

Regarding statements from other media about Jake's dad kicking him in a hole, Jackson confirms the father was at work when the child was reported missing. He also says there is no 8 year old in the family. There is a 9 year old. This is consistent with what law enforcement working on this case have told KLTV.

http://www.kltv.com/story/19353571/kimbely-family-attorney-

What the heck? So was Jake missing longer than was first thought? Meaning, Dad (can't even bring myself to say the words) did this to him before he went to work or the day prior?

 

[Knox]

The following statement was released on behalf of the Kimbley family, via The Jackson Law Firm:

We appreciate those members of the media who are taking a deliberative approach to this developing tragedy. There is no greater loss to a parent or to a community than the death of one of its children and the Kimbley family is grateful for the prayers and support that so many have offered.

While it is unfortunate to have to do so during this trying time, circumstances have developed that necessitate a response from the Kimbley family. Specifically, any reports as to inappropriate behavior on their part during the search for their son are entirely false. The tears they have cried, and continue to cry, are as real as they are plentiful. During the investigation the family cooperated with law enforcement and wanted nothing more than to see the safe return of their son.

At this time, the Kimbley family remains committed to working to see a just outcome for their son and the reuniting of their family under happier circumstances.

http://www.kltv.com/story/19353571/kimbely-family-attorney-

Their Lawyer is an IDIOT!!!

ETA- How is that last sentence appropriate? The parents of this poor child are thought to be responsible for his death? Happier circumstances? Ughhh!!!

 

[Arkgirl]

Autopsy inconclusive
http://www.kltv.com/story/19354896/more-details-needed-after-preliminary-autopsy-on-toddler

So does that rule out drowning in sewer? Seems like that would be easy to detect in the lungs. That leads me to assume he was not breathing when he went in the septic tank

 

[Peazzzer]

Well, hopefully the autopsy report will clear up the time of death, and help lead to a resolution of this.... :waiting:

I didn't see your remark about the autopsy being inconclusive! I am not shocked either....sadly. I surely thought he drowned in there.

 

[Leilei]

What the heck? So was Jake missing longer than was first thought? Meaning, Dad (can't even bring myself to say the words) did this to him before he went to work or the day prior?

Knox, that's what I want to know. There is that article that was posted earlier in this thread that stated that Jake's body had been in the septic tank for "quite a while". He was reported missing at 4:30pm, found at 1:30am... so what exactly is quite a while? And what time did the dad go to work that day? After lurking at WS for years, "quite a while" doesn't mean hours, it usually means days/weeks IMO.

As far as whether there is an 8 year-old or a 9 year-old in the house, it's silly, there's not much difference there and his/her birthday could have been recent.

They lawyered up quick. Is it due to Jake's death, or due to the other children being taken away, or a combination of both?

Plus, I haven't seen the family come forward at all as far as interviews go, but I'm not local.

Okay, I am much too wordy this evening, but dang, this case really, really bothers me.

 

[Knox]

I'm anxious to get more details. I don't think the child who stated what he saw, lied. I think the time frame he witnessed it in is the key.

Reeves is representing Sabrina, who is representing Dad?

 

[Knox]

Well, hopefully the autopsy report will clear up the time of death, and help lead to a resolution of this.... :waiting:

I didn't see your remark about the autopsy being inconclusive! I am not shocked either....sadly. I surely thought he drowned in there.

When was the last time anyone outside of the family saw Jake? Has that been mentioned anywhere?

 

[FrayedKnot]

All I can say is thank G*d that those other children are out of that "home".

It sickens me the way these sorry excuses for people just breed and breed and take out their frustrations over having too many kids.......on their kids.

Special place in Hell. Very special.

RIP Jake.

 

[GateKeeper]

I feel that baby Jake was already deceased when he was "kicked into the hole".
That poor little 8 year old...what a brave little angel,to tell the truth about what happened to Jake.

IMO

 

[ktgirl]

What a sad ending.
And these people had four children. If you don't want to deal with your children, don't have children in the first place. If you accidentally end up having babies and know you don't want them or care about providing them with the love, care, and interactions they need, put them up for adoption so a family that cannot have children but is dying to give a child the love he/she deserves can love that child.

 

[cluciano63]

I know women can drop off babies up to a certain age, varying state-to-state, but what about older children? Just wondering if there is safeguard in place for people who know they don't want the child, but the child is past the age limit. Can they "turn them in" legally somehow?

 

[Peazzzer]

Knox, the grandmother said something, but I don't know where I read it, it was in an early link....other than family, no one has been mentioned that saw Jake that I can recall....poor baby boy.

 

[MsFacetious]

Now, the pathologist will conduct more microscopic tests and studies on the body. Those studies will take more time, but will hopefully yield more information.

It's been two days since Jake Kimbley was reported missing, just one day since his home was declared a crime scene.

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Right now the case is being treated as a homicide until authorities can say for sure that what happened to Jake was an accident.

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While the investigation plays out, Jake's five siblings have been put in the custody of Child Protective Services.

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In the state's motion, they also expressed concerns about the childrens' living conditions, citing a severe roach infestation and potentially hazardous exposed wiring.

http://www.ktre.com/story/19354896/more-details-needed-after-preliminary-autopsy-on-toddler

 

[Arkgirl]

I remember either Tuesday evening or early Wednesday, reading that in the process of searching for Jake, law enforcement arrested somebody that they had been looking for before this even happened. I know the granddad was arrested, did he have a warrant before Jake went missing? Or is there someone else that got arrested that we don't know about?

I have tried to find that article today and I can't. If anyone else saw it, please let me know.

 

[Peazzzer]

IIRC, the grandfather which is the mother's father, was arrested for being a RSO around children. HTH

 

[TxLady2]

I know LE is saying that the grandfather's arrest was not connected to Jake's death, but I wonder if they're saying that because they have no positive proof yet that it is. Just seems like too much coincidence that he would be arrested so quickly after the child's body was found.
I'm not sure whether the 8 or 9 y.o. is making up what he saw or not. One snippet of the local news said it was the mom who told searchers to look in the septic tank. Why would that have occurred to her. People don't usually leave the lids off their septic tanks because of the smell. No 2 y.o. could open that heavy lid, and it was said they had to call in a septic company to open it up, but that could have been for security reasons, IDK.
Many years ago, I lived in Winona for a brief time, but I haven't been to the town itself in a long, long time. It is very small, used to be smaller than that before they put in all the liquor stores. Maybe I need to drive up there and check out the scenery. I'm about 45 minutes southwest of there.

 

[nervous_nellie]

I remember either Tuesday evening or early Wednesday, reading that in the process of searching for Jake, law enforcement arrested somebody that they had been looking for before this even happened. I know the granddad was arrested, did he have a warrant before Jake went missing? Or is there someone else that got arrested that we don't know about?

I have tried to find that article today and I can't. If anyone else saw it, please let me know.

im thinking that maybe he was "non-compliant" as in he didnt re-register when he moved to that location next to the kids... just guessing tho

 

[hollyblue]

What a sad ending.
And these people had four children. If you don't want to deal with your children, don't have children in the first place. If you accidentally end up having babies and know you don't want them or care about providing them with the love, care, and interactions they need, put them up for adoption so a family that cannot have children but is dying to give a child the love he/she deserves can love that child.

The number of children still evades me. 4-6? Maybe the media needs to release their ages for good measure. They would not allow the children to talk to a psychologist. Why?