TX - Jonathan Foster, 12, Houston, 24 Dec 2010 - #10

[jjenny]

The comment was to show feelings within the area. It wasn't for the fact anything was known; just their personal thoughts and feelings. :banghead:

I don't think this one comment represents feeling of the whole area.
Furthermore, if everybody in Houston decided Mona was the guilty party, a trial would be impossible here.

 

[SmoothOperator]

I am getting the feeling more and more that this woman was reveling in what she did. Drinking vodka, being chatty, going back to Jonathan's house to witness the pain she'd caused to his parents, etc. A big Christmas Eve celebration of the murder of a child.

I wish I knew what had been going on in her life in the few days before Christmas Eve. What made her decide at that time to do this? Was she cyclical? And it was time for another kill? Was it the Christmas season? Did she lose a job or lose money in some deal?

And the other thing is that she wasn't terribly concerned about getting caught. It's almost as if she wanted people to know what she'd done. More celebration. To a point of being cocky - going right back over to Jonathan's house where his parents were. You can't get much more cocky than that.

Above BBM..YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!
I mean to the point of gall I've never even seen! The nerve of her to after having tortured, murdered, mutilated this precious son and dump him in a ditch..she then has the nerve to go back to where she just 4 short hours before had abducted the son from..for an intimate gathering of friends/neighbors consoling that son's mother, AD.. She has some real gall and I'd not even call it gall I'd call it psychopathic behavior relishing with delight over the pain, anguish, and suffering that she, alone was creating and still was inflicting by her making this trip back to that home to further drive the knife into this mom's heart and be able to sit and watch with her own eyes..therefor continuing the sick high that she was receiving and getting off on.....

I don't have the link handy at the moment but there is a quote from one of the neighbors that was there at the cottage Christmas Eve consoling/comforting AD and witnessed MN's returning to the cottage.. She said that she nonchalantly told of her 12:30 very brief interaction with Jonathan..according to MN Jonathan seemed to be "hiding" that someone else was in the duplex with him and also planting the seed in mom's head of possible sexual assault, IMO with MN making the extremely odd remark that Jonathan did not have a shirt on when she briefly interacted with him at 12:30..

The neighbor stated that MN "sat back and was taking it all in that night at the duplex"{Christmas EVE-RIGHT AFTER HAVING DISPOSED OF THIS WOMAN'S SON'S REMAINS}..

I believe that now that MN is really being thoroughly investigated and in-depth looking into her ENTIRE PAST{both recent past and from years ago}, It's my opinion that what will be found that Mona is capable of and has taken part in will be the likes of someone we've never seen..Just the sickest depths of depravity, JMO..

 

[tehcloser]

I don't think this one comment represents feeling of the whole area.
Furthermore, if everybody in Houston decided Mona was the guilty party, a trial would be impossible here.

It represents the feelings of a child............

 

[Patty G]

Has anyone seen Reneelovesme or Love on since this case broke wide open?

If you go to the top of the page and click on Members List, look for their name and you should be able to see when they were last online.

 

[Patty G]

I don't think this one comment represents feeling of the whole area.
Furthermore, if everybody in Houston decided Mona was the guilty party, a trial would be impossible here.

I believe the comment was what she felt when speaking to others.

IMO, if there is ONE single child in the Houston area who is concerned about their safety, then I would certainly be concerned myself.

 

[jjenny]

I believe the comment was what she felt when speaking to others. :banghead:

IMO, if there is ONE single child in the Houston area who is concerned about their safety, then I would certainly be concerned myself.

One would think children should be concerned about their safety regardless of this case. It's a dangerous world out there.

 

[strach304]

I would have thought the smell would have been throughout the entire residence

It would have. I think that is one of the things LE is referring to when they say they found a lot of evidence in the apt.

 

[Beyond Belief]

I was wondering if there was ever a rash of animal burnings in areas where she had lived.

 

[BOZGAL]

Two statements stand out to me. The one by Mona, that he had no shirt on. And the one by the SD when he said a pedophile snatched him. Both introduce a sexual angle into this case. I'm just wondering why SD thought that so early on?

Still reading posts today so sorry if this has been said.
It is quite clear to me now why SD thought this.
MN said this herself. She planted the seed so to speak.


JMHO

 

[Openmind]

One would think children should be concerned about their safety regardless of this case. It's a dangerous world out there.

Sadly, tragically children are all too aware of the world they live in and all its dangers, but knowing how to protect themself from a predator such as this is overwhelming. That is the scary part -- how does anyone protect themself from pure evil?

 

[strach304]

I live in Houston and I do not think race has anything to do with this. If the race of the perpetrator and the victim were reversed, I don't think you would see any different determination to get a capital conviction. If the accused was middle class and white, the difference would be she would have some lawyer playing to the media, but I don't think the outrage would be any different. The innocence and vulnerability of the victim is absolute, the brutality of the crime is unusual, and the evidence is driving this reaction. Not saying prejudice does not exist -- just not in this case.

I agree and would like to add that it is the way LE believes JF died that has them seeking the DP imo.

 

[noZme]

BUMP!



Reports from LE said there was tons of evidence linking MN to the murder of little Jonathan - like burn marks on the carpet in MN's apartment, twine found there, matching twine used to bind the child, welding equipment in the apartment coupled with a burned body yet no traces of accelerant on the body (which would indicate another method used other than a torch, to burn the body), witnesses placing MN and her truck at the child's house around the time the calls were made to mom's work, the video showing her dumping his body, her admission that she saw Jonathan the day he went missing, zero evidence of any other kind to indicate another person was involved and solid alibis for the family, IIRC. Taken together, I think it's likely that a jury would find that this woman DID murder Jonathan and burn his body. Unless other evidence surfaces to suggest otherwise, I think their case is very good.

So many links at Nelson's home, yet she rode away in the backseat of investigator's car as if they were going out for a burger & a movie! Way back in thread #3, I couldn't believe she was a suspect, much less under arrest because she was not cuffed for transport. A big girl like her "loose" in the car... unusual, careless, foolish! I was even more stunned to learn she was, indeed, more than just a suspect, but a pro-boxer at one time. Am I the only person still questioning the cops? Isn't in SOP for anyone transported in LE vehicles to be restrained?

 

[peeples]

So many links at Nelson's home, yet she rode away in the backseat of investigator's car as if they were going out for a burger & a movie! Way back in thread #3, I couldn't believe she was a suspect, much less under arrest because she was not cuffed for transport. A big girl like her "loose" in the car... unusual, careless, foolish! I was even more stunned to learn she was, indeed, more than just a suspect, but a pro-boxer at one time. Am I the only person still questioning the cops? Isn't in SOP for anyone transported in LE vehicles to be restrained?

They rarely cuff around here unless person seems to be threatening or drunk or high or something, if you're being calm and respectful, they treat you the same. You are cuffed before you go into the jail though. That i a SOP for the jail.

 

[strach304]

This could very well be possible. If you recall, she was not at the "probable cause" hearing due to a "medical condition". My first thought was maybe drug or alcohol detox/withdrawal symptoms but fresh burns would definite be some pretty big evidence in my opinion.

Welding burns are very distinctive also. My ex-husband was a welder.

 

[peeples]

Hmm about the cuffing. I'm not from some huge city, we've only had like 3 murders ever or something small like that... and i'm sure those people were handcuffed.. I'd say for a city that size, most people are probably cuffed to be ont he safe side. Maybe they thought if they were nice she'd spill her guts.......

 

[tehcloser]

noz...I think they had a reason to to treat her the way they did, but man. Maybe they thought they would get further by being nice, but when you read what they said about her later they seemed to have taken a big chance.

 

[believe09]

strach, ty for your post. Are burns routine when handling the torch sort of freestyle? Does he wear gloves and or goggles? Are there fumes from the chemicals that might be overwhelming?

 

[zoomom]

We don't really know if MN has a raspy voice, unless I've missed a video with her speaking in it. MN may have been disguising her voice too. MOO

I would love to hear what she sounds like, for other reasons.

Maybe, just maybe, that's why she wasn't on video when she spoke to the reporter. She already knew from the news that the voice on the phone was being characterized as "raspy".

?

 

[Dear Prudence]

I agree and would like to add that it is the way LE believes JF died that has them seeking the DP imo.

Did the DA announce they are seeking a DP? I know she's been charged with capital murder but that does not automatically mean DP.

 

[angelainwi]

Thought this might be a good article for some to read if interested in learning more about how she became to be who she is.

http://ushealths.net/2011/01/how-trauma-shapes-sexuality/