TX - Jonathan Foster, 12, Houston, 24 Dec 2010 - Mona Nelson charged w/ Murder - #11

[georgiajean]

That is a very scary thought that DD could have gone down for this.
Maybe it was part of MN's plan that when she saw DD come and go at 1.45, she had a person to pin it on, either directly by her or by assuming LE.
DD probably just walked over to the cottage, no car, explains why neighbors did not see him.
After 1.45 , he could have gone to work or another place where people continuously saw him till after 6.00 pm. An airtight alibi IMO.
If MN did this before, other cases with circumstantial evidence that are supposedly solved, should also be re examined. That could have the wrong person in jail.

Once AD got home, I would imagine DD was one of her first calls, and once he arrived, they were each others alibi, correct?

 

[georgiajean]

Since she killed him and dumped the body the same day she abducted Jonathan, that would take some real nerve to burn a body, outside, in broad daylight.

Good point! It got dark at 5:30.
That she is cocky and believes she is invincible is evident in her actions, so maybe she was nervy enough to burn him in her secluded patio. Everyone thought the house and garage apt. were empty, so maybe she didn't even have any direct neighbors.

 

[cloudajo]

It is possible LE tried to interview MN earlier but could not locate her. MN was at her sisters for four days, starting with Christmas day. I have no clue where the sister lives but that would place MN back at her apartment again on Tuesday.
IIRC , MN told AD she was there at 12.30 when she visited AD after 6 pm on Christmas eve.

FYI, her sister she stayed with lives in southwest Houston (stated in video).

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=7872780

 

[rotterdam]

Once AD got home, I would imagine DD was one of her first calls, and once he arrived, they were each others alibi, correct?

Not only AD for DD's alibi, but possibly many other people too.

 

[Bodhi]

Prob not arrested, but like JonBenet's parents, never quite free of suspicion....

Like Richard Ricci in the Elizabeth Smart case.

She was kidnapped in June. LE was convinced Richard Ricci kidnapped her. He went back to jail, on parole violations I think, and died in jail in August. LE continued to focus on him even though the only eyewitness (Elizabeth's sister) knew Ricci and said it wasn't Ricci him, even after she was able to put a name (Immanuel) to the kidnapper in October. Finally in Februrary or early March, the Smarts went public with the information over police objections and John Walsh broadcast the new information. The police dismissed that lead right up until Elizabeth was recovered with Immanuel because someone recognized him from America's Most Wanted story a few days earlier.

Terri Horman has not been charged in the kidnapping of her stepson; but most people (incuding me) think she was involved.

I agree that while the stepfather and/or mother may not have been charged if the dumping of Jonathan's body was not captured on surveillance video, they would still be under a cloud of suspicion. The general public would still think they were involved--just like the Ramseys and Richard Ricci.

 

[Bodhi]

Since she killed him and dumped the body the same day she abducted Jonathan, that would take some real nerve to burn a body, outside, in broad daylight.

It's hiding in plain sight.

 

[cloudajo]

Something to keep in mind. It appears from the pictures I've seen on video and Google/Bing that the brown house that JF and AD were living in with SE was somewhat secluded from the road.

The driveway off Oak St. leads back to the front of the house, and it is looks to be situated somewhat behind another house that is directly on Oak St. It looks like the back of the apartment complex is on one side.

 

[amysmom]

Prob not arrested, but like JonBenet's parents, never quite free of suspicion....

I recently finished 'Perfect Murder Perfect Town' (JonBenet And The City Of Boulder) & after reading 621 pages I'm still not quite sure about her parent/s..The same goes for many in LE & the DA's office that handled (& botched?) the investigation..I can also include the author (Lawrence Schiller) to this list..So, because of that I totally agree with your take on what probably would've happened to DD & has happened to many parents (but mostly step-dads) that have had their missing & murdered children's cases go unsolved.

 

[blondekj]

Good point! It got dark at 5:30.
That she is cocky and believes she is invincible is evident in her actions, so maybe she was nervy enough to burn him in her secluded patio. Everyone thought the house and garage apt. were empty, so maybe she didn't even have any direct neighbors.

Please remind me, what time was she spotted on video? In other words, was it still daylight or after sundown/dark when she dumped Jonathan's body?

 

[BeanE]

Please remind me, what time was she spotted on video? In other words, was it still daylight or after sundown/dark when she dumped Jonathan's body?

Sunset in Houston on Dec 24 was 5:28 pm

Fri, 24 Dec 2010 07:13 17:28

http://www.happyzebra.com/timezones-worldclock/sunrisesunset.php?city=Houston

 

[amysmom]

what confuses me is that in all the talk of phonecalls,hangups,disconnects,raspy women and threats.....not one neighbor or someone close by was called to get to that apartment ASAP! Apparantly 15minutes meant life or death for this child if we are to believe the timeline given.

If mom, in fact, spoke to MN (when the threats supposedly occurred) in her car just minutes from home I can see why nobody was called to check..OTH! Mom claims she was concerned enough about the call she was told about (nobody on line) that she rushed home..I wish we knew exactly what time that was & how long it takes mom to get home..Until then I'll remain confused but honestly I'm not too surprised mom didn't think to call anyone for reasons I will not (& can not) say.

 

[dreamweaver]

Sunset in Houston on Dec 24 was 6:28 pm

Fri, 24 Dec 2010 07:13 17:28

http://www.happyzebra.com/timezones-worldclock/sunrisesunset.php?city=Houston

It was reported that Jonathon was abducted, murdered and tossed aside in about four hours time.

http://www.ksat.com/news/26323834/detail.html
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http://www.examiner.com/crime-in-na...ouston-boy-to-be-laid-to-rest-next-week-video
He will be laid to rest.

 

[rotterdam]

FYI, her sister she stayed with lives in southwest Houston (stated in video).

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=7872780

Tks so much. I wonder if that visit to sister was a spur of the moment thing and part of MN's plan. After she disclosed she was at AD's place at 12.30, she could have expected LE at her home. May be, MN even expected the body to be found sooner. And she could have said that somebody else entered her home and used it to murder Jonathan. Would explain all the evidence, she left behind and the careless discarding of body.However, she did not plan for the surveillance tape evidence.
Wonder if she left for her sister shortly after the visit to AD's place.

 

[BeanE]

Looking at the time of sunset that day, and I think it was reported the video showed her dumping poor Jonathan's body about 6, it looks like she waited until just after dark.

Also, she had said she was driving around. There may be truth in that. She may have been driving around, looking for a spot, waiting for dark.

I feel like I'm beginning to get a feel for this woman. Ugly stuff. And scary. Poor Jonathan.

 

[BOZGAL]

Tks so much. I wonder if that visit to sister was a spur of the moment thing and part of MN's plan. After she disclosed she was at AD's place at 12.30, she could have expected LE at her home. May be, MN even expected the body to be found sooner. And she could have said that somebody else entered her home and used it to murder Jonathan. Would explain all the evidence, she left behind and the careless discarding of body.However, she did not plan for the surveillance tape evidence.
Wonder if she left for her sister shortly after the visit to AD's place.

Excellent thought rotterdam.
I have been wondering why in the world she was out visiting people and left all that evidence behind. Seems to me she would have been cleaning up that little place of hers.

JMHO

 

[sreshowtime]

snipped from-http://www.click2houston.com/news/26298521/detail.html#story
"I got two phone calls at work," mother Angela Davis said. "My job told me that my son called one time saying it was an emergency, and I never got that call. The second time I got a phone call from my boss. She said that it was a lady, and by the time I got to the phone they hung up."

BBM- do you have any idea how PO'ed I would be about this, given what ultimately transpired?? GRRRR that is all I will say.

 

[rotterdam]

Excellent thought rotterdam.
I have been wondering why in the world she was out visiting people and left all that evidence behind. Seems to me she would have been cleaning up that little place of hers.

JMHO

Heck, she could have even announced at AD's place that she was leaving several days to visit family. And who knows, she might have gotten away with it, except for that wonderful priceless surveillance tape.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

She did it, imo. Her own words will be evidence against her.

If Jonathan's body was passed off to her to dump then why would her twine that was found in her home be binding his hands? Why would she take the time to burn him up with a welding torch in her home if she was just suppose to dump a container that she says she didn't even know held a body? She is vile, depraved and a pathological liar, imo.

Imo, it is so blatantly obvious no one had a thing to do with this sadistic horror but Mona Nelson.

Now was it for sexual purposes or just for the thrill of the kill? We may never learn what her motive was but her intent was pure evil.

imo

 

[SailorMoon]

I'd be mad too....what kind of work did she do?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I'd be mad too....what kind of work did she do?

maintenance and she was a welder.