TX - Jonathan Foster, 12, Houston, 24 Dec 2010 - Mona Nelson charged with Murder - #7

[Patty G]

Just out of curiosity, Patty G, do you think HPD are putting on a show with this presser, or just wrong?

I do think she probably did it and acted alone. And I am afraid they'll find more victims when they figure out the MO to look for. I'm not convinced it was sexually motivated except in the sense that torturing someone could have a sexually arousing affect for the perp.

MOO :twocents:

My thoughts are that Det. Miller was speaking with his emotions and throwing out a lot of his own speculation regarding Mona indicating she did this in the past.

I don't see that this was sexually motivated at all.

I don't feel they will ever find any other victims associated to Mona. However, putting it out there certainly makes their case more concrete in the publics eye (jurors).

 

[jjenny]

Why are we arguing that women don't kill? They do. There have been women serial killers. I don't know that I'm fully on board with Mona being one......but if LE thinks she might be, it's not going to hurt to dig around.

I don't know who is arguing that women don't kill.
All I said is what she is accused of is pretty unusual for a woman to be accused of.

 

[georgiajean]

If it was premeditated, and she had been seen around the apartment complex over the last couple weeks, then she could have targeted JF and been casing the place and taking note of peoples' habits and patterns. That fits with her waiting until after DD had seen JF before taking him.
It "sounds" like her hanging around the apartment complex coincides with AD and JF moving in with SE. (IMO).

She knew SE was sometimes home, sometimes not, so she stopped by in the earlier part of the day to see if SE was there. Found out she was not, and JF may have let slip that his mom would be back after 2 pm. (IMO)

I spent time reading the Facebook pages and tracking the comments MN had made on others' pages. The "Ang" woman from Myspace is also MN's friend on FB. On Myspace Ang tells MN about being assaulted by a man, and asks for her help. Same incident is discussed (without MN participating) on Ang's FB page.

IMO this Ang person is someone LE needs to talk with. Has a very, very cute boy who is referenced as "J" in all the pictures. No name given. Could this be the Jr MN writes about???

 

[TexasLil]

Other counties to look for past charges:

Franklin County, Texas
Collin County, Texas

Titus County, Texas (assault charges here)
Cameron County, Texas (arrested here for transporting aliens aka Mona Preston Nelson)
Morris County, Texas
Smith County, Texas (arrested in Tyler)
Hopkins County, Texas

 

[Kimster]

I hope there is more from LE about her killing others. I've never heard such a statement from LE before unless there WERE other killings. If this helps lead to closure for families, then we need to take it seriously.

But I feel we need to know more as to why they believe this happened before too. I don't want to see us all spinning our wheels trying to match up crimes to Mona either.

 

[tehcloser]

I don't know who is arguing that the woman don't kill.
All I said is what she is accused of is pretty unusual for a woman to be accused of.

Very true. But when we first heard the name Manson, we thought he was unusual too. I think when discussing murder, you can't really go by usual or unusual, some killers just flat break the mold.

 

[peeples]

If it was premeditated, and she had been seen around the apartment complex over the last couple weeks, then she could have targeted JF and been casing the place and taking note of peoples' habits and patterns. That fits with her waiting until after DD had seen JF before taking him.
It "sounds" like her hanging around the apartment complex coincides with AD and JF moving in with SE. (IMO).

She knew SE was sometimes home, sometimes not, so she stopped by in the earlier part of the day to see if SE was there. Found out she was not, and JF may have let slip that his mom would be back after 2 pm. (IMO)

I spent time reading the Facebook pages and tracking the comments MN had made on others' pages. The "Ang" woman from Myspace is also MN's friend on FB. On Myspace Ang tells MN about being assaulted by a man, and asks for her help. Same incident is discussed (without MN participating) on Ang's FB page.

IMO this Ang person is someone LE needs to talk with. Has a very, very cute boy who is referenced as "J" in all the pictures. No name given. Could this be the Jr MN writes about???

Wouldn't hurt for you to call the houston LE and let them know.. They may know about it and have tracked all her MS and FB stuff already but what if they haven't... would be worth bringing to their attentnion

 

[LandAuxvasse]

My thoughts are that Det. Miller was speaking with his emotions and throwing out a lot of his own speculation regarding Mona indicating she did this in the past.

I don't see that this was sexually motivated at all.

I don't feel they will ever find any other victims associated to Mona. However, putting it out there certainly makes their case more concrete in the publics eye (jurors).

Thank you! That's a bone I'll chew on. I do have to admit that this is the most bizarre press conference *I've* ever seen, but I certainly haven't seen every one ever televised.

I have a feeling we won't see autopsy results until trial? I think that would answer a lot of our questions!!

MOO :twocents:

 

[Kimster]

Please do not post info from paid sites due to copyright issues. :tyou:

 

[burbqueen]

finally caught up! WOO!

I have a serious hard time believing that MN is some sort of sexual predator on little boys. I'm not trying to stereotype, but I dont care that she is a woman it's the fact that IMO Mona might be gay. If this was a little girl that got murdered then yes I would agree, but why take a boy?? Just strange. Mona may just be down for the thrill kill ya know?

I am also finding it hard to fathom that she has done this before. Not cause she is a female, it's just her criminal record is full of theft and nothing too violent I thought? If there is evidence to the contrary then ok.

I'm still not firm on the timeline and who was where and when. I dont think the parents had anything to do with this and I think Mona acted alone. why she took JF to her house and the weird statement about him with no shirt on? I also wanna hear more from the roommate. She knows Mona in theory so she could shed some light on her personality.

 

[tehcloser]

Titus County, Texas (assault charges here)
Cameron County, Texas (arrested here for transporting aliens aka Mona Preston Nelson)
Morris County, Texas
Smith County, Texas (arrested in Tyler)
Hopkins County, Texas

BBM

Can you tell me when she was arrested in Tyler, it's not showing up on the jail records here. TIA


ETA: There is a Yvette Nelson, but it's the wrong DOB, and height, and the pic is def. not Mona.

 

[georgiajean]

Wouldn't hurt for you to call the houston LE and let them know.. They may know about it and have tracked all her MS and FB stuff already but what if they haven't... would be worth bringing to their attentnion

I would hope that with the importance of social networking sites, LE has people who run checks on FB, myspace, etc? Or am I just wishing and dreaming here?

The Ang person, besides the "Star" person, are the only ones MN had really communicated with on FB/MS, so it seems. I want to go back to MS and track down some more things.

 

[nomoresorrow]

and get sloppy, lazy & overly confident, jmo.

Agree 100% fhc and, in this particular case, I happen to think that the date/timing - Christmas Eve - played a huge role in the sloppiness part, in addition to her being over-confident, which is clearly exhibited by her visit to the Mom's home that very evening, after disposing of poor Jonathan's body. IMO, her visit to Mom's that evening indicated two things about her: She was/is an overly-confident sadist-murderer. Again Jmo.

 

[peeples]

I would hope that with the importance of social networking sites, LE has people who run checks on FB, myspace, etc? Or am I just wishing and dreaming here?

The Ang person, besides the "Star" person, are the only ones MN had really communicated with on FB/MS, so it seems. I want to go back to MS and track down some more things.

I don't doubt they do, but i don't know if it goes deeper than say checking the last few days worth of posts looking at photos etc.... without a lot of digging some of this stuff just isn't real apparent. Seems we have more time on our hands than LE sometimes and are focused on only a couple cases when in the case of that town.. they got a lot on their plate. That is why i suggested bringing it up Not because i feel they are incompetant, just that hey if a helping hand can be offered, why not

 

[maggieo]

This crime is so bizarre and sick and goes so against everything I've ever assumed about how people act... I can't even imagine a motivation here. If the police are right, and she's acting alone, I mean. It makes me not want to read about crime anymore. I mean, I feel there's nothing to be learned about human nature here, or anything. It's just sick and depressing and baffling and horribly, horribly tragic.

 

[SuziQ]

and get sloppy, lazy & overly confident, jmo.

It seems their arrogance gets the best of them eventually.

Mona may have run out of time. Since she ran in the same circle as these people, she may have found out quickly that LE was involved, and needed to do a quick body dump.

 

[Lera213]

serial killers usually have killed several before they come on the radar of the cops. If a TRAINED 14 year detective believes she has killed before, I will go with his instinct and we do not know, he may have some strong indications but no hard evidence as of yet.

 

[marlap]

My hinky meter is up...I would not be shocked to discover she maybe did the deed alone but for someone else, for some promise of profit. There may not be evidence of it though.

I also would not be shocked if she acted completely alone...maybe to punish some insult or slight she had felt from some adult Jonathon was associated with.

I also would not be shocked if she acted alone, and has killed before, and is a bona fide sadist.

I really hope Jonathon gets justice, whatever that may end up being and for all--even if only one---is involved.

Rest in Peace sweet Jonathon...run and play with the Lord and his other angels.

 

[Patty G]

I missed the FIRST minute of the presser but was able to rewind HLN to get the first minute. This is titled: Jonathan Foster: Press Conf. 12/30/10 Part 1A

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y0poFgtBJI[/ame]

 

[Lera213]

THink about this and sorry to be graphic here so this is your warning to stop reading:

No type of fuel was used to burn the body but yet welding equip was found at her home...it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see she used a torch to burn the body. That is UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL! If person can stomach that, then yeah I think she killed before. She is a thrill killer