TX - Jonathan Foster, 12, Houston, 24 Dec 2010 - Mona Nelson charged with Murder - #7

[epiphany]

I so agree with the welding torch as being a sign that this is not a first for her.

Agree with you. Also, the homicide detective is both seasoned and interviewed her:

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http://www.khou.com/news/Police-Woman-charged-in-boys-death-a-cold-soulless-murderer-112682194.html

I was one of the detectives to interview Mona Nelson, and I can tell you that she is a cold, soulless murderer who showed an absolute lack of remorse in taking the life of Jonathan Foster," HPD Homicide Det. Michael Miller said.

And...

Miller said. "I’ve worked in the homicide division for 14 years and this is the worst case that I’ve been a part of."

And it appears to be his opinion that:

"Do I believe she’s done it before? Yeah, I do. I don’t believe she began and ended with the abduction of Jonathan Foster," Miller said.

 

[Beyond Belief]

This is so horrible, I just keep feeling inside this woman is HATE.

 

[Kimster]

You know what? I came by earlier and mentioned that posting info from a paid site is a copyright infringement. Then there's all these sneaky looking posts about it after that. The mods in here are having enough of a time just trying to keep abreast of a very busy news issue, answering questions, and trying to help with suggestions. Blatant posts trying to undermine the rules publicly is totally bad form.

Be nice to the mods in here and I mean it. I won't post any more warnings and will just start issuing time outs instead.

 

[KT Can]

Now...that was a press conference!!!

Strategical, methodical...sending Ms Mona a message, IMO!

I am not surprised, as I said earlier, the experience I've had with HPD and Harris County Pros in a very high profile case...followed with a very high profiled "dream team"...didn't shake them one bit! They, my friends, are on their game...they will fight for Jonathan!

Our news reporting might leave a lot to be desired, but our LE here in Houston, HPD and Harris County SD, are top notch when it comes to high profile crimes. We're the fourth largest city and the death penalty capital of the US and we don't mess around. I know LE were getting a bad rap at the beginning of this thing but I have faith that it was handled as best as it could be with the information that they were given. Kudos to them for a quick and thorough resolution to this most awful situation. Ms. Nelson is toast.

 

[Aedrys]

Is that a true statement? I did not know that they had proven that or even charged her. I knew there was speculation about her and the father, but didn't know it was a fact. tia

<modadd> Zahra's case - /OT Okay, not tried and convicted yet, but she probably will be. She led LE to the dismembered body and evidence was in her and the dad's house. The odds of her not being involved somehow are extremely low. I guess I should have said that a child was dismembered. I was trying to point out how horrendous what happened to Zahra was. And most likely it was committed by Eliza Baker, but we do have to wait and see how the case unfolds next year to find out for sure.

Getting back to Jonathan's case, I thought what happened to Zahra was the worst thing I had ever heard someone do to a child. And then Jonathan's body is burned <modadd: maybe> with a welding torch beyond recognition. And now that is the top of my list, unfortunately

 

[Kimmer]

I am not completely caught up reading but here it goes, Mona has been in the system for years and I also would imagine so has her DNA, with all the forensics that go into a crime science, I just cannot see her being able to go around and killing numerous people without a hit on her DNA....Now as far as doing it alone I for one am having a hard time with that, If she knows she is busted dumping the body why not just fess up to the whole mess, I know the needle and I get that but sitting a lying thru your teeth and having no remorse is going to get you that already, so you may as well just put up or shut up, If you can do the crime do the damn time.

 

[Aedrys]

I am not completely caught up reading but here it goes, Mona has been in the system for years and I also would imagine so has her DNA, with all the forensics that go into a crime science, I just cannot see her being able to go around and killing numerous people without a hit on her DNA....Now as far as doing it alone I for one am having a hard time with that, If she knows she is busted dumping the body why not just fess up to the whole mess, I know the needle and I get that but sitting a lying thru your teeth and having no remorse is going to get you that already, so you may as well just put up or shut up, If you can do the crime do the damn time.

I'm wondering if she burns away all DNA with the blow torch? Maybe that's why she's never been caught? I doubt she would have been caught this time if it hadn't been for that video that caught her dumping the body.

 

[Melanie]

Well this is the most depressing end of the year I've ever had...what a sad, twisted case...

I agree - what a GD way to end the year. I had to look up when NYeve was because I was so involved with this case. Can't believe it's tomorrow, and the new year starts on Saturday. Can you tell I have no plans!

Please, Lord, please - make 2011 better for all the children in this world.

Hugs,

Mel

 

[Patty G]

FWIW

I have always had respect for LE doing their investigation of a case and never once did I ever post anything negative about LE.

However, today, I felt that the "power of suggestion" was flashing before my eyes using flash cards that read: "predator, serial killer, torches".

Plant a seed and watch the tree grow!

This is just how I felt personally.

 

[Strawberry Fields]

I think their scale might be broken, look at the weight.

Been reading in horror since this case first broke and am not sure this adds anything at all to the case at this point but how in the world is this person 130 pounds? Did they weigh her or just ask her for her height/weight when booking her? Glad I was not the only person who noticed this, FWIW, Jo in Calif. First I was reading and saw the "build" listed as "medium" and thought that was sort of odd as from what I had seen of the individual getting into the car with the police, she appeared to be a large boned person. Again, I'm sure this is not adding anything to the case, but for future reference, it would be good to know her real weight/height.

Also wanted to say how sorry I am for the family of little Jonathan. Sorry just does not seem like a good enough word to offer at this point. I feel helpless in knowing anything comforting to say. The look on the detectives' faces spoke volumes, in my opinion. Bless them all for what they do and I pray for strength for them and the family.

 

[Salem]

I just wonder if the defendent can be connected to adults as well? I feel uncomfortable using her given name. Or at this point referring to her, even, as human.

Is it against TOS to just call her IT? Because I don't feel comfortable sharing the same oxygen with something like that. I just don't. Do not.

My grandmother/grandfather were born in and spent their whole lives in Mt. Pleasant, Texas. So that might be a good place to start, given that some of the defendent's crime spree occurred there.

Lemme me know if it is okay to refer to the defendent as IT. I don't believe said defendent has endeavored to deserve much more than that as a moniker.

I don't know if this has been responded too because I don't have time to go through all the pages.

If it has not - then the answer is NO. It would be considering name calling. However, you may call her the "accused," or use her initials "MN" or call her the "alleged perp." All of those would be fine. My suggestion is to call her "MN" because then everyone knows who you are talking about.

Hope that helps - if another mod answered this before me - please do as they say.

Thanks,

Salem

 

[TheCynic]

I got the definite impression from the press conference that the Detective does not believe this is her first crime because of the (implied) extreme circumstances. He described them finding a lot of evidence and having a very hard time with it. He said that in his 14 years as a homicide detective this is the worst case he's dealt with.

Given that Houston is not exactly a small town, and I'm sure he's seen plenty of horrible things, that spoke volumes to me. I think eventually we will find out some awful things about what happened to Jonathan and I felt literally sick listening today.

I think the words he chose - greed, desire, predator, other victims - make it sound like he believes this was a sex offense, among other things probably. When asked about motive, he mentioned (among other things) waiting for information on COD, etc. So I think we have only scratched the surface of what happened to this poor child.

 

[salvarenga]

I am not completely caught up reading but here it goes, Mona has been in the system for years and I also would imagine so has her DNA, with all the forensics that go into a crime science, I just cannot see her being able to go around and killing numerous people without a hit on her DNA....Now as far as doing it alone I for one am having a hard time with that, If she knows she is busted dumping the body why not just fess up to the whole mess, I know the needle and I get that but sitting a lying thru your teeth and having no remorse is going to get you that already, so you may as well just put up or shut up, If you can do the crime do the damn time.

Unfortunately the CODIS System (national DNA database) is beyond backlogged. It could take years for things to catch up and then someone has to be looking. We just had an arrest here where they had DNA from a 2006 rape that was just now matched up...it's almost 2011, KWIM.

 

[Debbie3223]

Maybe she murdered .. to get pumped up for fights... or after breakups?

 

[Jokerswild]

Here's the latest Houston Chronicle article that details mn's criminal past:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7359495.html

 

[Melanie]

/OT Okay, not tried and convicted yet, but she probably will be. She led LE to the dismembered body and evidence was in her and the dad's house. The odds of her not being involved somehow are extremely low. I guess I should have said that a child was dismembered. I was trying to point out how horrendous what happened to Zahra was. And most likely it was committed by Eliza Baker, but we do have to wait and see how the case unfolds next year to find out for sure.

Getting back to Jonathan's case, I thought what happened to Zahra was the worst thing I had ever heard someone do to a child. And then Jonathan's body is burned with a welding torch beyond recognition. And now that is the top of my list, unfortunately

BBM - been off for a few hours, sorry. Is there a link that indicates that Jonathan was burned with a welding torch?

All the best,

Mel

 

[sherryk]

I have been trying to catch up all day. I check on if news media shows, NG would be covering this. I pulled up Nancy's site and I do not see anything that indicates she is covering the entire story tonigh?

I am just trying to catch up and thought I would watch at 8pm

 

[peeples]

BBM - been off for a few hours, sorry. Is there a link that indicates that Jonathan was burned with a welding torch?

All the best,

Mel

They said so today at the press conference, that was no accelerant used on the body, and she was a welder they are surmising he was burnt with acetelyne torches

 

[Kimmer]

BBM - been off for a few hours, sorry. Is there a link that indicates that Jonathan was burned with a welding torch?

All the best,

Mel

Mel, they spoke about it in the presser today, so sad...If you go back a few pages Patti has the presser on her ut account.

 

[burbqueen]

I am not completely caught up reading but here it goes, Mona has been in the system for years and I also would imagine so has her DNA, with all the forensics that go into a crime science, I just cannot see her being able to go around and killing numerous people without a hit on her DNA....Now as far as doing it alone I for one am having a hard time with that, If she knows she is busted dumping the body why not just fess up to the whole mess, I know the needle and I get that but sitting a lying thru your teeth and having no remorse is going to get you that already, so you may as well just put up or shut up, If you can do the crime do the damn time.

I agree with you!! The first part at least. She has been in and out of jail so many times I just dont get how she would get away with murder and like someone said she was waaaay too sloppy, but sometimes murders get cocky.

She doesnt want to fess up maybe cause this is a way for her to be defiant? They said in the beginning she wasnt working with the police and being difficult. I think she will confess in time once all the evidence is laid out before her.

As i've said before I'm gonna say it again. I dont think we will ever find a true motive as to why she did this. Maybe JF said something to her to make her mad and she beat him up or pushed him down causing his death. MN panics and tried to cover up the crime by burning him.