TX - Jonathan Foster, 12, Houston, 24 Dec 2010 - Mona Nelson charged with Murder - #8

[mysticrose]

Police: 12-yr-old Houston boy's killer a 'soulless murderer', showed no remorse


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Authorities have also revealed Nelson has an extensive criminal record dating back almost 25 years. FortBendNow.com provided the following record of arrests:

•1986: Nelson was convicted of aggravated robbery in Harris County and sentenced to 10 years on prison.
•1991: Nelson was arrested by the Border Patrol at a checkpoint in Kenedy County for attempting to smuggle five illegal aliens from Mexico.
•1997: Nelson was convicted of theft by check in Daingerfield. That same year, she was also found guilty of theft in Mount Vernon, and served 30 days in jail.
•1998: Nelson was arrested for operating a stolen vehicle.
•2001: Nelson pleaded guilty to possession of marijuana and served 29 days of a 30-day sentence
•2002: Nelson was convicted of possession of marijuana in Collin County.
•2004: Nelson was convicted of making a terroristic threat in Mount Vernon, Va.
•2005: Nelson was convicted of criminal mischief in Mount Vernon, Va.
•2006: Nelson was arrested on a battery charge in St. Charles Parish, La.
•2008: Nelson was arrested on a charge of assault on a family member in Mount Pleasant.
Nelson remains in jail without bond

http://www.examiner.com/missing-per...-killer-a-soulless-murderer-showed-no-remorse

 

[lisser]

Perhaps LE already has a container; perhaps a large trash can already that we might not even know about.

What IF it was really dark outside, she emptied out the container, of which, is not hot to the touch, but just normal in temperature. She drives to the area where she plans to dump the container and it is dark outside. She empties the container, doesn't smell anything with regards to decomp as she is drunk. Leaves the area, dumps the container somewhere OR even brings it home.

Perhaps residue from the charred remains are still in the container, the residue is on the rug that might appear to be burned etc., etc.

Anything is possible.

Respectfully...are you playing devil's advocate, or do you believe that she may be innocent? Do you think DD, who has been cleared by LE had something to do with it, aside from living in close proximity to MN?

LE already has a large trash can with residue in it, along with evidence that the residence is where he was burned.

They also have video showing the accused taking a body, not a container, out of the bed of the truck before dumping him in the ditch.

http://www.khou.com/news/Police-Woman-charged-in-boys-death-a-cold-soulless-murderer-112682194.html

MOO is that she knew exactly what and who she was dumping and is trying to take someone, anyone else, down with her.

 

[sherbetjello]

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=7872780

video

Woman charged in boy's murder speaks out

First, 2:15 in this video, how do you dump the remains of a burned body into a ditch from a plastic container? How was this container not hot or melt? Why isn't there any type of evidence of a fire or burning in the homes of the others she is trying to take down?

Also, now I think it was bad wording for them to implicate Mona in any other cases because I do believe that Q, and anyone else that is now in her corner, is going to use this... and they are going to play on this... and this is going to be a bleeping circus.

 

[epiphany]

Wasn't a large trash can (found at MNs house) brought up by HPD at the presser today?

 

[Lera213]

Bel Air High school but did not graduate. Bel Air School is in El Paso Texas

She has two 26 year old twins a boy and girl

She has 5 grandkids

Sister is AJ

all this info was taken from the video http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=7872780

 

[maconrich]

Any doubts I had about her doing this on her own are now gone. Her lame accusations /story sealed the deal for me.

 

[Redbird]

Actually Redbird, I had been thinking about this today A LOT!!!! I think MN was a sociopath that was in a current state of decomposition. I believe she had melted down and was completely willing to go along with the crazy violent thoughts in her head. In my opinion, Jonathan had encountered her in a brief previous instance that was negative in her mind. She decided to "seek justice" or "get even" or whatever crazy people call it when they kill completely innocent people. The rest of us normal people in the world can't get inside of their heads - because we are normal. Thank God!!!

This case is moving so fast I had forgotten how fast she dumped the body. I think your explanation is a good one. Or could she have even been proud of what she had done and wanted people to see it. She is such a psychopath and so calculating, I don't think she was drinking. Steroids maybe, but I think she was running on pure evil.

 

[Patty G]

But if you are so drunk you don't smell a VERY powerful and distinct smell, could you even drive to begin with?? Plus, LE has said that there is evidence INSIDE the home, including burned carpet and ties matching those found around JF's wrists.

If the body is encased in a garbage can with the lid on it and placed in back of a opened bed of a pick up truck chances are she would be able to drive and not smell anything.

Regarding the twine, well can't honesty say one way or another until I know more about the testing. We all have some sort of twine around the house.

The burnt rug, that depends also on how bad the rug was burnt, was it a little bit, or a very large area.

I have had burnt marks on my rugs over time from candles, cigarettes burns, etc. I moved into apartments that had burnt marks on them too!

This is why I have felt from the onset that she didn't act alone.

JMO

 

[Dear Prudence]

"I didn't know what was in it until they were showing me pictures in the interrogation room," Nelson said.

But the body, police say, was not found in a plastic container.

Investigators believe Nelson acted on her own. They say all family members have alibis.

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=7872780

Her story is unbelievable. Plus they have a video tape of her taking a burnt child's body out of the back of her truck and putting it in the ditch. No plastic container in the video or found with the body. LE did not fabricate the video.

 

[tehcloser]

I hope everyone has taken their blood pressure meds........calm down. This is Texas. We do everything in a big circus type way. There will be activist, lawyers and mayors...Oh my! But in the end, know that by golly...this here state is a big believer in that little old death penalty thang...and she will get hers.

 

[Patty G]

Respectfully...are you playing devil's advocate, or do you believe that she may be innocent? Do you think DD, who has been cleared by LE had something to do with it, aside from living in close proximity to MN?

LE already has a large trash can with residue in it, along with evidence that the residence is where he was burned.

They also have video showing the accused taking a body, not a container, out of the bed of the truck before dumping him in the ditch.

http://www.khou.com/news/Police-Woman-charged-in-boys-death-a-cold-soulless-murderer-112682194.html

MOO is that she knew exactly what and who she was dumping and is trying to take someone, anyone else, down with her.

I don't play at all.

I don't feel she acted alone; it's just that simple.

She could have emptied the container before she even got to the spot.

I just don't run right to the end of the story. I go page by page and at times I have to read the pages again. This is just how I am.

I can't state who I feel is involved as it is against the rules although I have stated them earlier before the arrest.

 

[jadejazzkayla]

I'm not talking about bringing someone over for an innocent dinner. I am talking about bringing over a drug addict to do drugs with. That is a completely different thing. And again I would like it noted that I said IF it turned out to be true that that is how MN was brought into JF's life.

I am a parent. As a parent, I am 100% responsible for the people that I bring into my child's life. A set of drug abusing parents bringing another drug abuser into the home where a child is present is irresponsible.

if the boss killed my kid - the boss is responsible for killing my kid. if i invited the boss to my home for dinner and the boss killed my kid - the boss is responsible for murder and i am innocent. the dinner can not be innocent or guilty.

 

[Pensfan]

The reporter did say she had tears as she talked. :violin:

Interesting.

Women serial killers-Kehler Typology
Revenge killer
-obsession driven (love, hate, or jealousy)
-victims are usually family or a member of a group that the killer believes to be offensive in some way
-generally shows remorse after arrest
-usually kill 3-4 victims over 2 years
http://twistedminds.creativescapism.com/serial-killers-introduction/kehler-typology/types/

 

[salvarenga]

I don't play at all.

I don't feel she acted alone; it's just that simple.

She could have emptied the container before she even got to the spot.

I just don't run right to the end of the story. I go page by page and at times I have to read the pages again. This is just how I am.

I can't state who I feel is involved as it is against the rules although I have stated them earlier before the arrest.

I hope the police are keeping an open mind. JF could have been killed in the home with the help of someone else. But then MN could have agreed to take the body and dispose of it. Perhaps she took the dead child's body somewhere, torched it to make it not recognizable and then disposed of it.

It has not been stated that anyone saw JF walk out with MN. His body could have been carried out.

 

[lisser]

I don't play at all.

I don't feel she acted alone; it's just that simple.

She could have emptied the container before she even got to the spot.

I just don't run right to the end of the story. I go page by page and at times I have to read the pages again. This is just how I am.

I can't state who I feel is involved as it is against the rules although I have stated them earlier before the arrest.

I agree it requires thought and due diligence before forming opinions, which is why I mostly keep mine to myself until I have the bulk of the story.

She may very well have an accomplice, but imho, just from what LE has stated, her residence is the one that the burning was done at, and that makes her sitting very much in the right place tonight.

ETA: if she removed the body from a container prior to the dump, then she is lying to the public by saying that she didn't know what was in the container when she dumped it.

 

[salvarenga]

if the boss killed my kid - the boss is responsible for killing my kid. if i invited the boss to my home for dinner and the boss killed my kid - the boss is responsible for murder and i am innocent. the dinner can not be innocent or guilty.

You are missing my whole point. I am not talking about an innocent dinner. I am talking about people getting together to do drugs. Let's just agree to disagree on this one.

My point is, as a parent you are responsible for who you bring into your child's life. If you are a drug addict and choose to bring other drug addicts into your home.....well then, IMO, nothing good is EVER going to come of that. Sure the child may not end of dead everytime but damage whether it be neglect, abuse, etc. is bound to happen.

 

[Penelope]

Reading this..

"Quannel X says David Davis paid Nelson $20 to throw away the container. Nelson told Quannel X she didn't know what was in the container because she was drunk."

.. made me livid.
So, tell me Q, Mona took a flaming hot container (at least 6000 degrees) moved it, then opened it and thought "shiiii, this is a child in here." Leaves it, says nothing, does not report SD (why, too drunk? that's REALLY DRUNK!!), and then goes back to the house the mother of a missing child is staying.


I CAN NOT BELIEVE.
I am going to get a time out or ban in this case.

*SITTING ON HANDS*

This somewhat reminds me of New York's Tawana Brawley case where three African-American activists (including Al Sharpton) got involved in the case and blamed what happened to Ms. Brawley on everyone else. It was eventually revealed that Tawana had lied about everything. (link here) Of course, this case is much more serious and horrifying as an innocent 12-year old boy is dead due to the suspect's alleged actions.
IMHO-- Q needs to tread very carefully here lest he get burned.

 

[kalekona]

Perhaps LE already has a container; perhaps a large trash can already that we might not even know about.

What IF it was really dark outside, she emptied out the container, of which, is not hot to the touch, but just normal in temperature. She drives to the area where she plans to dump the container and it is dark outside. She empties the container, doesn't smell anything with regards to decomp as she is drunk. Leaves the area, dumps the container somewhere OR even brings it home.

Perhaps residue from the charred remains are still in the container, the residue is on the rug that might appear to be burned etc., etc.

Anything is possible.

Except the witness who spotted the remains spotted a "Body" not a container.
And it was made clear there was NO container found and LE was clear that everyone she tried to implicate has been cleared.

 

[mendz]

quanell x coming into the mix is just wrong. this is not a race issue, its not a human rights issue (except for the fact that jonathan's rights were taken from him). the video speaks for itself and if there is more to the story, mona needs to start talking. this $20 to to dump a container stuff ain't gonna fly...IMO

 

[Dear Prudence]

Bel Air High school but did not graduate. Bel Air School is in El Paso Texas

She has two 26 year old twins a boy and girl

She has 5 grandkids

Sister is AJ

all this info was taken from the video http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=7872780

Pretty sure the reporter meant Bellaire High School in Houston.