TX - Jonathan Foster, 12, Houston, 24 Dec 2010 - Mona Nelson charged with Murder - #8

[2anthro]

Do you think the stun gun in her truck could have contributed to the LEO considering that she may have murdered before?

 

[sarx]

Ugh, In my original post I was referring to Mr. X's statement about MN saying that they (MN, AD, DD) got together to do drugs and drink. I also stated IF that turned out to be true. I did not state it as fact.

And for the records JF's uncle has stated in MSM that AD had a drug problem. That has also been posted in these threads today.

Do you think that doing drugs around children is not neglectful?

I absolutely do, but I do not think that we should be dragging her or him for that matter through the mud until we have solid information on this rumor. Right now she is a grieving mother and should be left alone until such time that it is proved otherwise. That's not just my opinion, that is WS rules as well.

 

[lisser]

I have to go and listen or read what the individual who met with Mona stated. I am only going on what I thought I heard, she was asked to dispose of a container for $20.00 by DD.

Did she state in the interview that she disposed the container at the site where she was spotted on video or did she just say she was asked to dispose of the container for $20.00?

I wonder if the individual asked Mona if she took the container to the site considering LE claims there was no container at the site? Lots of unanswered questions.

btw, (I don't recommend doing this)... I just googled some pictures of burned human remains...even the unrecognizable ones still had some semblance of human features. If LE was able to determine that there was twine around this poor little guys wrists, IMO she would have known she was dumping a body.

 

[Amster]

It is very possible she was not aware of what was in the container. According to the person that spotted the remains, IIRC, he/she thought it was burned debris.

What container?

 

[alsmom]

no disrespect intended but...come on! she is captured on video disposing of the body! i agree this does not mean she killed him, however, she needs to say something better than "she was disposing of a container". a 5 year old could concoct a better story than that.

She's also going to have to explain the other evidence found at HER home.

 

[georgiajean]

WOW! She has those side dreadlocks just like described in the Chicago case! And...she is definitely very masculine looking!

I was just going to post this! If you flipped the negative of the picture, and overlapped it onto the suspect drawing for the Chicago case, Hmmmmm.

(It's picture #7 on the slide show) http://www.click2houston.com/slideshow/news/26320186/detail.html

 

[jjenny]

It is very possible she was not aware of what was in the container. According to the person that spotted the remains, IIRC, he/she thought it was burned debris.

What container? Again, the body was not found in any container. If she were dumping a body in a container, where did the container go?

 

[Patty G]

What container?

The container comes from the interview Mona did today and talked about a container she was asked to get rid of.

 

[Kimster]

I was just going to post this! If you flipped the negative of the picture, and overlapped it onto the suspect drawing for the Chicago case, Hmmmmm.

(It's picture #7 on the slide show) http://www.click2houston.com/slideshow/news/26320186/detail.html

Wrong thread kiddos: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=123949"]Is Mona Nelson of Houston TX a serial killer? - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

I'm trying to get this one back on track. This one is about Jonathan, not other cases.

 

[lynnb]

Do you think the stun gun in her truck could have contributed to the LEO considering that she may have murdered before?

I totally missed that. MN had a stun gun in her truck?

 

[tehcloser]

ay up, this is going to drive the Mods bonkers.

 

[Patty G]

What container? Again, the body was not found in any container. If she were dumping a body in a container, where did the container go?

I know the body was not found in a container. The discussion is about the container Mona stated in her interview.

ETA: I gave some of my thoughts with regards to the container in my earlier posts.

 

[Pensfan]

I'm way behind on this case, and I'm sure this has been mentioned. But FWIW (and it might be academic) I'm wondering if the fact that it was Christmas Eve played into her motivation. Bitterness, old wounds, bad childhood experience. Killing a child is horrible in itself, but to do so on Christmas Eve, well, I can't believe that was a coincidence. Are there any other unsolved Christmas Eve murders or child abductions in Texas? Virginia?

(It is not known if MN has killed before. It was suggested by a LE officer.)

Conflict and the depression stage are the events that trigger the serial killer into action. It can be conflict with females, parental conflict, financial stress, marital problems, conflict with males, birth of a child, physical injury, legal problems, stress from a death, and etc...

As the emotional high from a murder ends for the serial killer, a depression stage sets in. This is an additional stressor that triggers the killer’s murdering cycle.

An excellent reference:
http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/serial_killers/notorious/tick/straw_11.html

 

[jjenny]

I know the body was not found in a container. The discussion is about the container Mona stated in her interview.

Just because she claimed there was a container doesn't mean it actually exists.

 

[epiphany]

She's also going to have to explain the other evidence found at HER home.

As well as the witness who saw MN and her truck at J's home at the time of his disappearance (MN has said she saw J at around 12:30).

 

[mendz]

I have to go and listen or read what the individual who met with Mona stated. I am only going on what I thought I heard, she was asked to dispose of a container for $20.00 by DD.

Did she state in the interview that she disposed the container at the site where she was spotted on video or did she just say she was asked to dispose of the container for $20.00?

I wonder if the individual asked Mona if she took the container to the site considering LE claims there was no container at the site? Lots of unanswered questions.

the individual who met with her is quanell x, that means less than than squat to me. seriously, what container?

 

[LandAuxvasse]

I have to go and listen or read what the individual who met with Mona stated. I am only going on what I thought I heard, she was asked to dispose of a container for $20.00 by DD.

Did she state in the interview that she disposed the container at the site where she was spotted on video or did she just say she was asked to dispose of the container for $20.00?

I wonder if the individual asked Mona if she took the container to the site considering LE claims there was no container at the site? Lots of unanswered questions.

WARNING MAY BE TOO GRAPHIC!!

I agree that things can certainly be viewed the way you're stating you believe. I think, though, that in that situation, I would have to believe that IF she received his body (already passed) that she then took him to her house and preceded to mutilate the body. I don't think she can deny that (and it sounds like she is). The video surveillance shows her getting out of her vehicle, retrieving the body from the bed of the truck, and then placing it into the ditch (per press release). I would also have to believe, then, that the press release was some sort of set up for the accomplice/true murderer. Are there any cases where this has really happened? Where LE has lied or twisted the truth in a presser?

MOO :twocents:

 

[lisser]

the individual who met with her is quanell x, that means less than than squat to me. seriously, what container?

According to Q via MN, she was paid $20 to dump a container, which she was too drunk to realize contained a body.

 

[Patty G]

Just because she claimed there was a container doesn't mean it actually exists.

IIRC, LE took a trash can/barrell into evidence, so it's possible there was a "container" = trash can/barrel.

If I am mistaken regarding LE taking a trash can into evidence, please let me know as I am on overload. I thought this was stated at the press conference.

 

[Dear Prudence]

I know the body was not found in a container. The discussion is about the container Mona stated in her interview.

ETA: I gave some of my thoughts with regards to the container in my earlier posts.

But no container was found anywhere. Not with the remains, or at Mona's house or truck. Where do you think she transferred the contents of the container and then got rid of the container before discarding the remains?