TX - Jonathan Foster, 12, Houston, 24 Dec 2010 - Mona Nelson charged with Murder - #8

[Amster]

It just dawned on me that if it was in fact Mona that was the woman with the raspy voice, and she spent part of Christmas Eve and Christmas Day around AD and DD, then wouldn't AD recognize that voice?

You would think so...the phone calls are hinky, anyway.

 

[gypsyblue]

did anyone hear that le said that a witness placed mona at the home at 12:30? ty

 

[A_News_Junkie]

Here are some of my unresolved questions.
1. Has anyone seen where LE took anything other than the welding torch thing (do not know the name of it) and the broom? IE: the mountain of evidence - the can - the carpet - did they collect these items?

2. 3:15 hours is maybe enough time to do all that, but would the body remain hot to the touch for a period of time and not be able to be moved?

3. What time was she back over at mom house that night?

4. If she burned him - would the smell be transferred to her? If yes, she would need a shower too in the time line.

5. Why did the officer mention greed today - certainly 20 dollars would not qualify.

I just wonder how she did do this alone in this time frame?

Please don't shoot me for asking questions!!!!

 

[jjenny]

You would think so...the phone calls are hinky, anyway.

The phone call business is very strange. If she knew the family, and presumably it's her who was on the phone since she is the suspect, why the question "is your mother's name Angela?" Presumably Mona would know the mother's name is Angela, especially if she was hanging out with them as she seemed to claim through this activist person.
I wonder how accurate mother's recollection is of what the phone calls were.

 

[georgiajean]

I hope QX was brought in to stir things up and shake out the truth, and that he is not truly believing her trail of moldy crumbs.

If there is an accomplice who has somehow scooted under the radar of the LE, hopefully all this new info will cause them to take a wrong step and expose himself or herself.

I keep thinking of those pictures of JF with his cousins, 4-wheeling and admiring their Halloween loot. I am very glad those memories exist for his family.

 

[Jolynna]

It is very possible she was not aware of what was in the container. According to the person that spotted the remains, IIRC, he/she thought it was burned debris.

You'd think that when MN might have told the police about the container big enough to contain a child's body that she'd dumped for DD the same night a child went missing.

IF MN thought that she'd dumped a perfectly innocent package out along the road, why'd she tell LE that her truck hadn't been in that area that Friday night?

Since MN was even trying to hide the fact that she owned the truck that she'd used to dump Jonathan's remains from, she must have known what was in the container. Who'd dump a body for a crummy $20?

Plus DD's timeline checked out. According to Angela, he passed a poly. There weren't burn marks in the cottage OR in DD's place. DD's car will be cleared after being inspected by forensics. I doubt MN's truck will be. Her house already flunked. Fibers matching her carpet were all over the body. SHE was the one with the blow torch.

 

[jjenny]

I hope QX was brought in to stir things up and shake out the truth, and that he is not truly believing her trail of moldy crumbs.

If there is an accomplice who has somehow scooted under the radar of the LE, hopefully all this new info will cause them to take a wrong step and expose himself or herself.

I keep thinking of those pictures of JF with his cousins, 4-wheeling and admiring their Halloween loot. I am very glad those memories exist for his family.

He was brought in because Mona requested him.

 

[lynnb]

just knew there had to be a RSO in this story somewhere.
Nelson said she'd been living in Cookville in East Texas since January 1985, in a house owned by her father-in-law, Clyde Nelson, a sex offender who was sentenced to 30 years in prison for sexually assaulting a 5-year-old girl in August 1985. A probation officer who visited the home in September 1985 reported the home was clean and Nelson's children appeared well cared-for.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7359495.html
just wanted to add....is this the same ex father in law that was interviewed earlier?

 

[sarx]

She says plastic container in her interview, correct? If the container LE found was used to burn JF's remains with a torch at 6000 degrees, then it sure wasn't a plastic one.

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Just to further on this...
To my knowledge only a large welding torch is going to put out that kind of heat. A more likely tool would have been a hand torch which is going to heat up to somewhere between 1700 and 3500 degrees. Any and all would melt plastic and any of those temps would also cause damage to a metal can depending on length of time.

I find it interesting that they talked about twine binding his hands. This to me says that there was still traces of it left, which would mean either lower heat and/or shorter time.

 

[Salem]

Please remember that the parents are victims in this case. While some discussion of drug use, based on media reports, is allowed, at this point in time LE has given NO indication that either parent knew MN or that they socialized with her.

The Roommate has stated in MSM that she was the one that knew MN and it was through her that the parents met MN. LE has given NO indication that drugs, partying, etc. was involved here. IN FACT - LE has given very STRONG indications that this ________ acted alone with evil and malicious intent. Trying to make it the family's fault is inappropriate unless or until LE changes their stance on what happened here.

Salem

 

[jjenny]

You'd think that when MN might have told the police about the container big enough to contain a child's body that she'd dumped for DD the same night a child went missing.

IF MN thought that she'd dumped a perfectly innocent package out along the road, why'd she tell LE that her truck hadn't been in that area that Friday night?

Since MN was even trying to hide the fact that she owned the truck that she'd used to dump Jonathan's remains from, she must have known what was in the container. Who'd dump a body for a crummy $20?

Plus DD's timeline checked out. According to Angela, he passed a poly. There weren't burn marks in the cottage OR in DD's place. DD's car will be cleared after being inspected by forensics.I doubt MN's truck will be.

While we don't know any details, I believe it's quite possible the step father has a good alibi for the timeline in question. Since police always investigate family members of a missing child, I have no doubt police would have checked where the step-father was. Maybe they even got the step-father on video somewhere at the time in question.

 

[sarx]

Yes, and just maybe they have video of her removing his poor little body out of the back of her truck with no container making it very clear that she "knew" exactly what she was handling.

 

[debirlfan]

It just dawned on me that if it was in fact Mona that was the woman with the raspy voice, and she spent part of Christmas Eve and Christmas Day around AD and DD, then wouldn't AD recognize that voice?

People often sound different on the phone -and it's always possible she was intentionally disguising her voice when she was on the phone. Add to that the fact that mom and sd were presumably very upset/near hysteria (especially the mother) and it's understandable that Mona's voice wasn't recognized. Besides - who would expect the perp to come wandering in and claim to have seen the child that morning?

 

[Pensfan]

and why she would do that and just waltz back into the house of a missing child?

non sense.

She could have re-involved herself in the crime scene for any or all of these reasons:
1. Fantasy plays a large role with serial killers and she could have been gathering info for her next disturbed one
2. Stalking the mom
3. The thrill/risk of being at the scene undetected
4. Reconnaissance on the danger of being caught
5. Has a compulsive disorder and revisiting crime scene relieves anxiety
6. Was obsessed with babysitter and/or the mom who were in the house

 

[Patty G]

You'd think that when MN might have told the police about the container big enough to contain a child's body that she'd dumped for DD the same night a child went missing.

IF MN thought that she'd dumped a perfectly innocent package out along the road, why'd she tell LE that her truck hadn't been in that area that Friday night?

Since MN was even trying to hide the fact that she owned the truck that she'd used to dump Jonathan's remains from, she must have known what was in the container. Who'd dump a body for a crummy $20?

Plus DD's timeline checked out. According to Angela, he passed a poly. There weren't burn marks in the cottage OR in DD's place. DD's car will be cleared after being inspected by forensics.I doubt MN's truck will be.

I don't think an individual with an extensive criminal background is going to call 911 and say "hey I was just asked to dump this container and it has a dead body in it". Nope

Did Mona tell LE she wasn't in the area and that she was trying to hide the fact she owed the truck? I have to admit I haven't read every article out there.

I sure wish LE would indicate who took a poly and who passed.

 

[lynnb]

While we don't know any details, I believe it's quite possible the step father has a good alibi for the timeline in question. Since police always investigate family members of a missing child, I have no doubt police would have checked where the step-father was. Maybe they even got the step-father on video somewhere at the time in question.

Not accusing anyone of anything, but I hope LE went outside this family to verify alibi's because we've all seen stories being told to cover butts since this started.

 

[georgiajean]

just knew there had to be a RSO in this story somewhere.
Nelson said she'd been living in Cookville in East Texas since January 1985, in a house owned by her father-in-law, Clyde Nelson, a sex offender who was sentenced to 30 years in prison for sexually assaulting a 5-year-old girl in August 1985. A probation officer who visited the home in September 1985 reported the home was clean and Nelson's children appeared well cared-for.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7359495.html
just wanted to add....is this the same ex father in law that was interviewed earlier?

Thank you for posting this article. Lots here. The whole time line of her life, knowing when she married and had kids, etc. In 1983, to have twins born 3 months premature, I'm amazed the kids survived.
My opinion is it is the same ex-father in law...

 

[jjenny]

Not accusing anyone of anything, but I hope LE went outside this family to verify alibi's because we've all seen stories being told to cover butts since this started.

Since LE ruled him out very quickly, I presume his alibi is quite good, considering he did see the child before the child went missing. LE always checks out family members in case of a missing child, and I doubt he would have been ruled out so fast otherwise.

 

[Hamsterdance]

WARNING GRAPHIC NATURE


Just to further on this...
To my knowledge only a large welding torch is going to put out that kind of heat. A more likely tool would have been a hand torch which is going to heat up to somewhere between 1700 and 3500 degrees. Any and all would melt plastic and any of those temps would also cause damage to a metal can depending on length of time.

I find it interesting that they talked about twine binding his hands. This to me says that there was still traces of it left, which would mean either lower heat and/or shorter time.

I was thinking that perhaps she put the twine on afterwards, to make transportation easier.

 

[jjenny]

I was thinking that perhaps she put the twine on afterwards, to make transportation easier.

If twine was put on afterwards it wouldn't be burned.