TX - Jonathan Foster, 12, Houston, 24 Dec 2010 - Mona Nelson charged with Murder - #8

[bessie]

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Just to further on this...
To my knowledge only a large welding torch is going to put out that kind of heat. A more likely tool would have been a hand torch which is going to heat up to somewhere between 1700 and 3500 degrees. Any and all would melt plastic and any of those temps would also cause damage to a metal can depending on length of time.

I find it interesting that they talked about twine binding his hands. This to me says that there was still traces of it left, which would mean either lower heat and/or shorter time.

I know very little about welding torches. If the twine remained, would that indicate the torch was used on isolated parts of the body? I mean, no accelerants were used, so the body was not set aflame.

 

[fran]

LE stated in the presser this afternoon that everyone MN tried to throw under the bus, they checked them out every which way and their entire days schedule and MN did this ALONE.

Not exact words, but that was the gist.

IMHO, LE has connected all of the dots!

JMHO
fran

 

[Reannan]

I was thinking that perhaps she put the twine on afterwards, to make transportation easier.

Maybe around the entire body, but not just the hands. Oh, I hate where my mind goes with this thought.... just hate it. :sick:

 

[Curious Me]

"Arson dogs detected no accelerate on Jonathan's body, he said, adding that Nelson possibly used welding torches at her home. An autopsy found no soot in the boy's lungs, so Miller said Jonathan likely was not alive when he was burned."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7359495.html

This news kind of makes me feel better, but not really. Don't know if this has been posted, if so I looked over it.

Thank You for posting it. It does make me feel better that it wasn't before he died. But I really know what you mean that it doesn't make you feel that good either. It's sad, sad, sad.

 

[darlin gal]

HPD Captain David Gott said around 6pm Christmas Eve, surveillance video showed a silver truck pull up to a ditch outside of a building on East Hardy. A person can be seen getting out of the truck, taking a body out of the bed of the truck and placing it in on the ground.

. That same day, authorities searched her apartment. Torches and other welding tools were found inside Nelson's northwest Houston home. Authorities beleive Jonathan was taken there, killed and burned beyond recognition the same day within hours. Twine used to tie Jonathan was also found inside Nelson's home. His body laid in the culvert through the Christmas holiday until he was discovered on Tuesday.

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=7872780

 

[sarx]

According to the article we now know that he was placed there at 6 pm.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7359495.html

or maybe we already knew that and I had just missed it!

 

[sarx]

Oh for the love of all things good and mighty, I have managed to lose the media links thread again. These latest links should certainly go over there!

 

[lynnb]

Since LE ruled him out very quickly, I presume his alibi is quite good, considering he did see the child before the child went missing. LE always checks out family members in case of a missing child, and I doubt he would have been ruled out so fast otherwise.

what I meant by my comment was could you imagine the backlash with the defense if it would come out that someone had a made up alibi....especially someone that the accused is accusing. KWIM?

 

[maureen718]

does anyone know where the 'is mona nelson a serial killer' thread is? I can't find it

I found it

 

[alsmom]

Posts about Mona possibly being responsible in other crimes goes here: Is Mona Nelson of Houston TX a serial killer? - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Link in above quote.

 

[Dear Prudence]

According to the article we now know that he was placed there at 6 pm.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7359495.html

or maybe we already knew that and I had just missed it!

Yes, HPD released that info at the press conference today. If anyone has not seen it yet, it is a must. Our wonderful Patty G has the audio portion posted here: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5948085&postcount=63"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Found Deceased TX - Jonathan Foster, 12, Houston, 24 Dec 2010 - Mona Nelson charged with Murder - #7[/ame]

 

[gypsyblue]

does anyone recall what time mona was seen at the house? ty

 

[lynnb]

does anyone recall what time mona was seen at the house? ty

http://www.click2houston.com/news/26319669/detail.html
Officers spoke to Nelson close to the time the body was found. She had spoken to Jonathan at about 12:30 p.m. on Christmas Eve, police said.

 

[Crosby87]

Why did the step dad stop at SE's to check on Jonathan on the 24th of December? Didn't AD leave DD because he mistreated her son? Did AD ask him to go there? TIA

 

[Melanie]

That statement is so ...well, I don't even know where to start.

ahem, cough, cough -- didn't SD clearly state he had seen her around? Now we know he and bio-mom were partying and getting drunk with MN?

Why all the lies? This is a dead child we're talking about here.

OMG!

Mel

 

[gypsyblue]

Why did the step dad stop at SE's to check on Jonathan on the 24th of December? Didn't AD leave DD because he mistreated her son? Did AD ask him to go there? TIA

not sure dd was there... I saw LE say DD was there at 1:45....but maybe they recanted because according to neighbor and mona, LE I think stated today that mona was there at 12:30...

 

[lynnb]

not sure dd was there... I saw LE say DD was there at 1:45....but maybe they recanted because according to neighbor and mona, LE I think stated today that mona was there at 12:30...

supposedly MN was there at 12:30 and left. stepdad comes at 1:45. all is fine. mom calls house about 2 and that is when raspy voiced woman answers. mom gets home and jonathan is gone.

 

[Melanie]

Yes, and just maybe they have video of her removing his poor little body out of the back of her truck with no container making it very clear that she "knew" exactly what she was handling.

That's my thought too. She told that activist that SD gave her a container to dump and paid her 20 bucks. Then said she didn't know what was in the container because she was drunk.

but the video shows otherwise -- her carrying a body out of the back of the truck. She knew what was going on....

MOO

Mel

 

[OneLove]

WARNING: VERY GRAPHIC QUESTIONS

Someone asked why law enforcement has brought up greed as a factor. Has been considered, maybe even a snuff film (geez, that was really hard to type). Someone also asked why Christmas Eve, of all times, and I am wondering if there was any evidence of satanic worship. Christmas Eve is a "high holy" day for human sacrifice and often involves both blood and fire. This is thought to give a person great personal powers. Mizizzy posted a calendar of satanic ritual days and I have been hyper-vigilant on those days ever since. Some of the days on the calendar are even listed as days to CAPTURE a person for sacrifice and hold them for a later ritual date for the actual sacrifice. It is extremely chilling. It has also made me question if law enforcement is saying this is likely NOT Mona's first victim because they have found evidence of such involvement. I truly truly hope not, but am trying to be prepared. Each bit of news released so far has knocked the wind out of me. :-(

 

[Melanie]

"She breezily signed consent forms allowing authorities to search her truck and home, Officer Mike Miller said, and showed no emotion even when told she was being charged with capital murder in the slaying of Jonathan, who vanished from his northwest Houston home on Christmas Eve."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7359495.html

Question: Do you think that perps act like this because they have a "plan" worked out in their head? That she requested this Q person, as well as the report in this article, really sets it up like she has had this all mapped out.

Could be. Does it upset anyone else that some folks in the media are now referring to her as a mother and grandmother....and the kids in the area called her momma. As if she's some sort of saint!

It made my stomach churn.

MOO

Mel