TX - Jonathan Foster, 12, Houston, 24 Dec 2010 - Mona Nelson charged with Murder - #8

[Dear Prudence]

Quanell X and jail house interviews before attorneys are not uncommon here...and they haven't affected the outcome of any sentence negatively, that I'm aware of...in fact, I tend to believe it's often a LE strategy.

Just google search him and houston jail house interviews / confessions...you might be surprised to see some of the positive influences he's had.

Also...don't forget Houston has live cameras all over the city. I'm sure that's how they know she went to her house first and then back to the "dump" site....and I would bet Quanell X knows that too...he'd have to!

So, IMO, even if it's not a strategy, then it still won't work.

everyoneneedsavoice,
I just now remembered that you posted as a close friend of Tynesha. Didn't Quanell X help to get her killer to confess. Did his role play a part in that trial? How do you feel about QX getting involved with this case? If you don't want to talk about it I understand.

 

[Openmind]

"I believe Nelson did play a role in what happened, but I believe her role is disposing of the body....She said it was the stepfather, David, who paid her money to dispose of a container that he gave her," said Quannel X.

Quannel X says David Davis paid Nelson $20 to throw away the container. Nelson told Quannel X she didn't know what was in the container because she was drunk.

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/new...ear-olds-murder-misses-first-court-appearance


IIRC, on the surveillance, she dumped only his body, no container. It will be hard to justify this statement if the surveillance clearly shows no container. Because if she disposed of the container separately, she removed the contents.

She is grasping at straws. The evidence counters her words. Does she have a lawyer yet? I am surprised they would let her make these statements on the news.

Something is still strange here. If she has committed these crimes before, why did she get so sloppy this time and leave a trail of evidence. Truthfully, I think she is ruthless but I don't think she is smart.

 

[Melanie]

WARNING: VERY GRAPHIC QUESTIONS

Someone asked why law enforcement has brought up greed as a factor. Has been considered, maybe even a snuff film (geez, that was really hard to type). Someone also asked why Christmas Eve, of all times, and I am wondering if there was any evidence of satanic worship. Christmas Eve is a "high holy" day for human sacrifice and often involves both blood and fire. This is thought to give a person great personal powers. Mizizzy posted a calendar of satanic ritual days and I have been hyper-vigilant on those days ever since. Some of the days on the calendar are even listed as days to CAPTURE a person for sacrifice and hold them for a later ritual date for the actual sacrifice. It is extremely chilling. It has also made me question if law enforcement is saying this is likely NOT Mona's first victim because they have found evidence of such involvement. I truly truly hope not, but am trying to be prepared. Each bit of news released so far has knocked the wind out of me. :-(

I brought up the satanic worship early on, but it didn't go over very well. I agree with your post that Christmas Eve is the "grand climax" for satanists, which usually involves young boys. But we can only speculate as we don't know what her views on the occult are. Also, if this was/is the case, then she most likely didn't act alone, as a sacrifice is usually done in a group setting (Lord forgive me for even typing that).

MOO

Mel

 

[OneLove]

I know how you feel about typing such awful things. :-(

If the satanic angle is true, it could explain why LE seems to feel she has acted before.

It could also explain the comments about her 'stalking' and planning this out, timing it precisely, such statements as that.

 

[Openmind]

Could be. Does it upset anyone else that some folks in the media are now referring to her as a mother and grandmother....and the kids in the area called her momma. As if she's some sort of saint!

It made my stomach churn.

MOO

Mel

It bothers me but, truthfully, it doesn't help her and probably has the opposite affect -- like making your stomach churn. It does mine too.

What bothers me is Quannel X getting involved. Why is he promoting her obvious lie since the surveillance video proves she dumped a body and not a plastic tub, and she confessed to dumping this poor child's body when she was arrested.

 

[Dear Prudence]

ahem, cough, cough -- didn't SD clearly state he had seen her around? Now we know he and bio-mom were partying and getting drunk with MN?Why all the lies? This is a dead child we're talking about here.

OMG!

Mel

bbm - No, no, no, that accusation came from the accused sitting in jail tonight. No one has said that but supposedly MN in a meeting with Quanell X and channel 13 news. Unless I've missed something.

 

[OneLove]

It is possible that Quannel X is not "promoting her lie" as much as he is keeping her talking while she still does not have legal representation.

Anything she says at this point can and will be used against her.

 

[JenRen]

It is possible that Quannel X is not "promoting her lie" as much as he is keeping her talking while she still does not have legal representation.

Anything she says at this point can and will be used against her.

I tend to agree with this. Is it normal to allow a new prisoner the ability to "request" a meeting with a non attorney?

Does anyone think LE said she requested this meeting, and maybe told her that QX requested to talk to her instead, to get them both together and make her slip up?

 

[OneLove]

Don't know if it is "normal", but what a great thing to have a suspect talk freely with anyone that will keep them talking, especially if they say things that are easily proven to not be true. What a wealth of ammunition to use in court against her! The more she talks, the better.

 

[JenRen]

No, I think you're spot on. It's our responsibility, as parents, to acknowledge and trust who we bring into our home. IMHO the mom and SD hold some accountability for bringing this MN around and partying with her (even though SD said he only saw her "around").

MOO

Mel

Respectively BBM. The ONLY person who has said they partied together is MN, and I don't exactly believe anything that comes out of her mouth.

 

[Melanie]

bbm - No, no, no, that accusation came from the accused sitting in jail tonight. No one has said that but supposedly MN in a meeting with Quanell X and channel 13 news. Unless I've missed something.

You're right, I'm wrong! It was X that said that, not the dad. Sorry, my bad. It's hard to keep up - the thread is moving so fast.

Thanks!

Mel

 

[Dear Prudence]

It is possible that Quannel X is not "promoting her lie" as much as he is keeping her talking while she still does not have legal representation.

Anything she says at this point can and will be used against her.

But she hasn't said anything. All the media showed was a reporter and Quanell X saying what she said to them. Were these jailhouse visits recorded and can they be used in trial? IDK

 

[kalekona]

But she hasn't said anything. All the media showed was a reporter and Quanell X saying what she said to them. Were these jailhouse visits recorded and can they be used in trial? IDK

As long as they were not acting as agents of LE I'm pretty sure anything she said to Quanell and the reporter can be used in court. (and yes everything should have been recorded since neither is her legal council)

 

[Openmind]

It is possible that Quannel X is not "promoting her lie" as much as he is keeping her talking while she still does not have legal representation.

Anything she says at this point can and will be used against her.

I don't see Quannel doing this especially on TV. I know a few years back he did get a father to confess to a terrible crime but that was to help recover the children's bodies. I guess he could be playing her along to get information but that doesn't really jive with his normal stance in the community.

 

[txsvicki]

Instead of being a serial killer, could this Mona be an adult gang banger who killed Jonathan in some sort of retaliation for insulting her or some kid, or not doing something she wanted ?

 

[Openmind]

As long as they were not acting as agents of LE I'm pretty sure anything she said to Quanell and the reporter can be used in court. (and yes everything should have been recorded since neither is her legal council)

Then the worrisome part to me is what will not be admitted because she didn't have counsel and they move to have it thrown out. This can cut two ways. Before this is all over, some lawyers will make much of this press. I don't think Quannel is working to help put her away.

 

[impatientredhead]

Then the worrisome part to me is what will not be admitted because she didn't have counsel and they move to have it thrown out. This can cut two ways. Before this is all over, some lawyers will make much of this press. I don't think Quannel is working to help put her away.

Nothing said to a reporter or any other third party falls under protection. Even if she had made those statements to an attorney that then turned around and told them to a third party (like a reporter) her statements would not be protected.

Unless LE took her into custody, detained her against her will and either failed to inform her of her rights or continued to question her after she requested an attorney I wouldn't worry.

She is on video disposing of the body and buried in physical evidence. Had she chosen to remain silent she would be right where she is right now.

I do agree there will be many attention seekers attaching themselves to this case at all levels.

 

[Openmind]

Instead of being a serial killer, could this Mona be an adult gang banger who killed Jonathan in some sort of retaliation for insulting her or some kid, or not doing something she wanted ?

I keep thinking of Tim Miller's comments yesterday that drugs are connected to the case. Hate to admit it but that somewhat endorses Quannel's comments as well, but the police have not implied this at all. Not even close. To me, the drug angle gives some connection to this woman and child other than her just randomly selecting this poor little boy to murder.

 

[sherryk]

Could be. Does it upset anyone else that some folks in the media are now referring to her as a mother and grandmother....and the kids in the area called her momma. As if she's some sort of saint!

It made my stomach churn.

MOO

Mel

There are always people who come to the defense of the criminal. Those in the community who either refuse to believe she could do this or those who simply do not want to admitt what the facts state so far. It amazes me also, if they want to say she is a good person, maybe she portrayed herself as that but torches of welding tools and burns in carpet, video of her dropping body.. some protect their own kind.. friends.

Is there rumors of interviews with any one credible that sexual abuse or assault was involved or just pure evil or just to simply kill. The way the body was burned how in the world could she stomach that.

oh how sad and sickening.

 

[nomoresorrow]

You're right, I'm wrong! It was X that said that, not the dad. Sorry, my bad. It's hard to keep up - the thread is moving so fast.

Thanks!

Mel

Just going off your post here - IMO, this is an example of why it is so important for parents/caretakers of a missing/abducted child to be 100% honest with LE from the get-go. Clearly if a parent will lie about where and/or who the child was with (or not with...) at the time they went missing/were abducted out of embarrassment, fear, or whatever other reason... it's not a stretch at all to think that they'd lie about current or prior associations or behavior that may not be viewed favorably by LE either... JMO ~