TX - Jonathan Foster, 12, Houston, 24 Dec 2010 - Mona Nelson charged with Murder - #8

[Lera213]

I want to google the satanic calendar as OneLove mentioned but I fear my pc will blow up and my stomach launched into the stratosphere

 

[SmoothOperator]

The body was disposed before this case attracted any media attention. LE says the body was disposed on the same day the child went missing. At that time there was no media attention on this case whatsoever.

{Sorry if already stated am still in process of thoroughly reading thru each and every post}

jjenny I agree with your above statement ^above^... Not only had the media sensation NOT NEARLY BEGUN, NOR AMBER ALERT, NOR NATIONWIDE COVERAGE OF JONATHAN MISSING.. and to go even a step further at the time which the badly burned body was dicarded having it partially shoved into culvert of the ditch that is covered/recorded by Rolled Alloys surveillance cams.. All of the criminal activity that was inflicted on Jonathan including the burning of his body, and the disposal of his body in culvert.. ALL OF THIS WAS DONE BEFORE JONATHAN WAS EVEN "OFFICIALLY" ENTERED INTO THE MISSING PERSON'S DATABASE..

With the disposal having taken place at 6pm on Christmas Eve he HAD ALREADY HAD THE PAIN, TERROR, ETC MOST LIKELY IN THE MOMENTS LEADING UP TO HIS MURDER..AND HAD ALREADY DIED AT THE HANDS OF MONA NELSON, AS WELL AS DUMPED IN CULVERT BY MONA NELSON..

ALL OF THIS DONE PRIOR TO HIS HAVING BEEN ENTERED INTO MISSING PERSON'S DATABASE.. ALL BE FORE HIS DISAPPEARANCE WAS BEING TAKING 100% SERIOUSLY BY LE..NOT EVEN BEING MORE URGENT OF A CASE..BUT YET ALL THE WHILE HIM LISTED ALONG TEH SAME LINES OF A JUVENILE RUNAWAY...

Heartbreakingly done for seemingly no rhyme nor reason.. Am not dealing well with the outcome of this case.. It is just further proving to me that there indeed are evil monsters in and around ALL OF US{and from what I've seen thes monsters transcend all boundaries...meaning they can easily come in all colors..be it black, white, yellow, purple.. any sex, male or female, all socioeconomic classes from the wealthy to those poverty dependant on the government, and every personality know to man{i.e. funny, humorous, seemingly "giving" and "caring"}... it runs the entire gamut..

we are left to not know whom that we are casually interacting with on a somewhat daily basis..in a grocery line, speaking to at corner gas station, etc, etc..we are just being nice and considerate to neighbors in and around our neighborhoods... NOT KNOWING WHAT IS TRULY LURKING BEHIND THOSE EYES OF THAT PERSON..NOT KNOWING THEIR EVIL DESIRES AND WANTS.. NOT KNOWING{or even wanting to know}what this person is actually capable of doing and inflicting on other humans be

And below is snipped from my post way earlier..that touches on some of what you are also speaking in your above^ post

~Begin snipped quote~
She was "finished" with Jonathan by 6pm when she dumped his little body...I AM FLOORED AND SPEECHLESS AND TERRIBLY SHAKEN BY THIS!

HERE AT WS WE ALL NOW HOW VERY RARE THAT IT IS THE "BOOGEY MAN" THAT SNEAKS AND TAKES THEN MURDERS A CHILD..MUCH MORE OFTEN UNFORTUNATELY IT IS A PARENT OR CLOSE RELATIVE...

IN THIS CASE IT WAS THAT VERY RARE OF OCCURANCES... IT WAS THE BOOGEY MAN THAT INVADED THIS FAMILIES LIFE AND TOOK THE PRECIOUS LIFE OF A SON, JONATHAN FOSTER.. HUG YOUR BABIES TIGHT..BECAUSE THESE SICK MONSTERS THAT USED TO BE ONLY IN NIGHTMARES MANY YEARS AGO...TODAY THEY ARE ALIVE AND THEY ARE REAL AND THEY ARE LOOKING FOR THEIR NEXT VICTIM{OUR CHILDREN}..

*MONA NELSON, MATTHEW HOFFMAN ARE THE 2 MOST RECENT OF MONSTERS THAT I AM SPEAKING OF!
~End Snipped quote

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[bessie]

Exactly what are satanic rituals? Or is it Satanic rituals?

 

[Curious Me]

It is so strange to go through the trouble to burn the body that badly, beyond recognition, and yet leave the body in an open ditch where it could be found quickly. I just can't imagine how this went down. I am stunned by how senseless it seems.

Why would she pick on this beautiful child, Jonathan. It was an opportunity for some sick plan, yes, but not really a greedy, monetary thing his dying and her being in jail now. What did LE mean by greed?

 

[Miss Optimism]

"Arson dogs detected no accelerate on Jonathan's body, he said, adding that Nelson possibly used welding torches at her home. An autopsy found no soot in the boy's lungs, so Miller said Jonathan likely was not alive when he was burned."

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7359495.html

This news kind of makes me feel better, but not really. Don't know if this has been posted, if so I looked over it.

Thank goodness. Burning as COD would be absolutely horrendous. Has the COD been stated yet? I just pray that it was very quick and that sweet Jonathan didn't suffer. I hate to think that he was terrified and tortured.

 

[Melanie]

Exactly what are satanic rituals? Or is it Satanic rituals?

I don't exactly know the deets - I've only looked at a calendar. I'm afraid to go to the sites that actually describe such horror -- probably wouldn't sleep at all tonight. All I know is some satanists sacrifice people to their "God" or something along those lines. Christmas Eve being their night to take away from Christian beliefs.

MOO only

Mel

 

[Miss Optimism]

I wonder if AD was afraid of Mona, and that is why she was hesitant to tell everything from the beginning...could have been fear that Mona would come back and kill her and other family members.

At the probable cause hearing, it is stated that AD received threatening phone calls at work, which is quite different from what was initially stated. Then, later on, AD says something to the effect of she didn't point the finger at Mona, she just told them who came to her house that day. I wonder what these threatening phone calls were all about. Was it part of the thrill for Mona, to hear and anticipate the panic AD was surely feeling? Or, was it really a vengeance type thing? :waitasec:

 

[claudicici]

IMO this case has nothing to do with Satanic rituals.IMO the drug connection is a much more logical motive.This perp. seemed to be an incredible angry person.That shows because of the known cases where she beat up the baby sitter and the children and beat up her own daughter.She may not be lying about being "drunk" at the time and that's why precious Jonathan's little body was discarded so carelessly.IMO LE knows more about the motive than what they are reveiling right now.I keep thinking about the statement during the preliminary hearing that the mother received threatening phone calls at work.As far as we know the calls were not threatening,alarming,yes but not threatening.I believe LE knows the true nature of this calls and I do believe the parents are trying to conceal their prior involvment with this person.IMO a drug debt or something along those lines provoked that unspeakable rage.
It reminds me of the Haleigh case where a missing gun may just be the motive for that precious little girl to be gone.Drugs cause unspeakable crimes,IMO....it's just so sad.
I wished Jonathan never went to live with his mother and wouldn't have to learn the evil's of such an environment.

 

[claudicici]

I wonder if AD was afraid of Mona, and that is why she was hesitant to tell everything from the beginning...could have been fear that Mona would come back and kill her and other family members.

At the probable cause hearing, it is stated that AD received threatening phone calls at work, which is quite different from what was initially stated. Then, later on, AD says something to the effect of she didn't point the finger at Mona, she just told them who came to her house that day. I wonder what these threatening phone calls were all about. Was it part of the thrill for Mona, to hear and anticipate the panic AD was surely feeling? Or, was it really a vengeance type thing? :waitasec:

wow,I posted at the same time you did.That's exactly what's been on my mind.The threatening phone calls.

 

[MsFacetious]

They did say this in the press conference... which was very good for me to hear. 4 hours... barely long enough to do what we KNOW she had to do... so not long enough to do much else.

According to the article we now know that he was placed there at 6 pm.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7359495.html

or maybe we already knew that and I had just missed it!

I was waiting for you to show up here. :seeya:

The detective specifically said that the fire department has arson dogs. That they did NOT detect anything and so NO fuel was used to start the fire.

Don't know if that's really your area of doggy expertise... but how accurate is that? I am guessing it's pretty straightforward.

 

[Curious Me]

I don't see it as a satanic ritual killing either. There was that Full Moon Lunar Eclipse a few nights before, and you know what they say about Full Moons in general, but MN doesn't strike me as into rituals. She's more a type, IMO.

Did she have some drinks while using the torch? OMG, I can't take another thought about this crime tonight. This sick act of hers will stay with me forever. Poor Jonathan, I hope he's being comforted by angels.

 

[AvalonBlue]

It is so strange to go through the trouble to burn the body that badly, beyond recognition, and yet leave the body in an open ditch where it could be found quickly. I just can't imagine how this went down. I am stunned by how senseless it seems.

Why would she pick on this beautiful child, Jonathan. It was an opportunity for some sick plan, yes, but not really a greedy, monetary thing his dying and her being in jail now. What did LE mean by greed?

Yes, it is senseless and sick.

I think what LE meant by the word "greed" is that this woman is selfish and sick -- someone who "takes" without concern for anyone other than herself -- "greed" as in satisfying sick motives in the moment and going so far as to steal another person's life. That kind of stealing is indeed "greedy."

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

Hi guys....I've been sick with the flu for the last 24 hours and I have missed so much of the last two threads. I am hopelessly lost and don't have the energy to attempt to catch up.

Could someone tell me who Quannel X is and how he/she fits into this awful story?

Is it true that bio mom and step dad had a relationship with Mona or has that info been uncovered yet?

Thanks everyone....time for more Nyquil!

 

[Lera213]

Hi guys....I've been sick with the flu for the last 24 hours and I have missed so much of the last two threads. I am hopelessly lost and don't have the energy to attempt to catch up.

Could someone tell me who Quannel X is and how he/she fits into this awful story?

Is it true that bio mom and step dad had a relationship with Mona or has that info been uncovered yet?

Thanks everyone....time for more Nyquil!

Quannel x is the leader of the New Black Panther Party in Houston, Texas

AD and DD did not have a relationship with MN, they knew who she was and seen her but no relationship however the roommate that AD was staying with she did have a relationship. It has no be stated just how deep or close that relationship is.

 

[Openmind]

Quannel x is the leader of the New Black Panther Party in Houston, Texas

AD and DD did not have a relationship with MN, they knew who she was and seen her but no relationship however the roommate that AD was staying with she did have a relationship. It has no be stated just how deep or close that relationship is.

Thinking over that phone call to Jonathan's mom, the person asked Jonathan if his mother's name was Angela. Hardly fits with doing drugs for weeks together as Quannel claimed.

 

[lauriej]

http://www.click2houston.com/news/26325836/detail.html

Slain Boy's Family Has Record With CPS
----snipped---

In Houston in December 2006, there was a second allegation of neglect, physical abuse and medical neglect of both Jonathan and his half sister, officials said. The case was closed because Jonathan had moved to his uncle's home out of state and his half sister was living with her grandmother.

Glenn Scrimsher, Jonathan's uncle, said he offered to let Jonathan live with him, his wife and his five children because Angela Davis was having problems with drug abuse.
Jonathan lived in Missouri from the age of 6 until he was 11.

 

[Melanie]

Hi guys....I've been sick with the flu for the last 24 hours and I have missed so much of the last two threads. I am hopelessly lost and don't have the energy to attempt to catch up.

Could someone tell me who Quannel X is and how he/she fits into this awful story?

Is it true that bio mom and step dad had a relationship with Mona or has that info been uncovered yet?

Thanks everyone....time for more Nyquil!

Hi Blondie,

So sorry you're feeling poorly. We've had the same bug this Christmas - ughh.

Mr. X interviewed MN without the presence of a lawyer. You can catch up with a video and a description at this link:

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=7872780

Here's another article:

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/new...ear-olds-murder-misses-first-court-appearance

I haven't found any truth that MN had a relationship with the bio mom or SD.

 

[claudicici]

Thinking over that phone call to Jonathan's mom, the person asked Jonathan if his mother's name was Angela. Hardly fits with doing drugs for weeks together as Quannel claimed.

...but we don't know if that's really what was being said.Jonathan's mom has changed her story too many times.
During the preliminary hearing it was said the phone calls were "threatening" ,I'm more inclined to believe that version.

 

[claudicici]

Quannel x is the leader of the New Black Panther Party in Houston, Texas

AD and DD did not have a relationship with MN, they knew who she was and seen her but no relationship however the roommate that AD was staying with she did have a relationship. It has no be stated just how deep or close that relationship is.

AD and DD are saying they had no relationship with her.
MN is saying they were "partying" together.

 

[cloudajo]

For reference regarding phone call to AD with threatening remarks towards Jonathan. Snipped from MN's Probable Cause Hearing.

Starting about :20.

Twelve year old Jonathan Paul Foster was taken from his home, or missing from his home when his mother came home from work.

Prior to her arrival, she had received a mysterious phone call from her residence from a female, who made threatening remarks towards her son. Also, witness observed a female arriving at the residence in a grey or silver pickup about the same time that those threatening calls were made.

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/video?id=7871218