TX - Joshua Brown, 27, (witness in Amber Guyger trial), shot and killed, Dallas, 4 Oct 2019

[kittythehare]

Not to nitpick, but weed price is not linear as quantity increases.

If an ounce costs $350 (which I'd guess is about right for Louisiana) and a pound--16oz--is 3K as you said (which I also think is about right), then it would probably be in the ballpark of 5k for one kilo, and maybe something like 20K for all six. Maybe less than that.

It's still a lot, to be sure, but I'm confident it's not close to 36K.

Is there a shortage of good weed in Louisiana?
Any good reason to travel for it?

 

[BellaVita]

More than under attack -- Judge Tammy Kemp, of Texas' 204th District, is actually facing an ethics complaint from the Freedom From Religion Foundation for her reaction at the end of former Texas police officer Amber Guyger's trial.

Group files complaint against judge who gave Bible to, hugged officer Amber Guyger after her murder conviction

Consider the source. It's called Tyranny of the Few. God forbid, someone expresses their Christianity and it's a federal crime. But if someone deals drugs for a living, it's called "poor choices". Somehow the actions of Judge Kemp have been elevated to worse than being a drug dealer. Up is Down, and Down is Up. Somebody can purposely mislead the public into believing DPD is responsible for a Mafia style hit on a witness but is still defended by many.

 

[dub]

Is there a shortage of good weed in Louisiana?
Any good reason to travel for it?

I have no idea, in comparison to some places sure, but I doubt the weed in Texas is generally better or cheaper to the extent that it would be worth traveling that far for it.

 

[jjenny]

So neither of the previous cases in which he was a witness appears to have played a role in his untimely demise. Gonna be hard for any lawyer to sue DPD for not offering him protection, I presume. In addition, he probably didn't want DPD to follow him around, considering what is alleged he was doing when he was shot and killed.

 

[jjenny]

It begs the question, why was the character of the witness not permitted to be scrutinized on the stand? (As I've witnessed in every trial I've ever seen.)

Because it might go to their credibility?

 

[GoBuckeyes]

Not to nitpick, but weed price is not linear as quantity increases.

If an ounce costs $350 (which I'd guess is about right for Louisiana) and a pound--16oz--is 3K as you said (which I also think is about right), then it would probably be in the ballpark of 5k for one kilo, and maybe something like 20K for all six. Maybe less than that.

It's still a lot, to be sure, but I'm confident it's not close to 36K.

I think there are MUCH bigger issues than quibbling over the price of an ounce. That 3k was calculated on smaller sales. If he was a distributor halfway up the chain, as your pricing suggests, it's a worse picture imo. He was portrayed as an entrepreneur and all that's right about America, and this ain't that.

 

[Artis]

Joshua Brown, a witness during the Amber Guyger murder trial, was killed in a drug deal, sources say

So, the current story is the three guys came from Louisiana to buy some "drugs" (weed, it sounds like) from Joshua. Joshua shoots Jacquerious so Thaddeous shoots and kills Joshua with Thaddeous and Michael escaping the scene. It also says, "Each of the three men faces a capital murder charge". Why would Thaddeous be charged?

I totally get the victim friendly thing as victims aren't responsible for the actions of their killers but this tendency to make victims out like stellar citizens or even saints is silly. Sounds like Joshua came close to being a murderer, himself - that is, if this version of events is accurate. If it is, why did Joshua shoot Thaddeous?

 

[BellaVita]

just googling it, its showing 1500-2k for 1/2 a lb of street recreational. You make more if you sell smaller quantities... so going off low price of 1500, that would be 3k a lb and he had 12 lbs in the apt. 36k right there, not including the THC. Who knows how much he moved. The places where he 'managed' the airbnb's is prime for trafficking. Atlanta, CA. They bring it in, he goes to check the airbnb, its a drop off spot, he brings it back to Dallas, VERY easy setup for transporting back and forth. Remember, Merritt said he was an Entrepreneur. He had to be dealing with someone to get that amount. And we still don't know what was in the backpack. That may have been what was being sold and the other 12 etc was for someone else... or multiple 'someone elses'.

I think he intentionally dressed 'young' and was 'acting' while on the stand. Yes, this is ONLY my opinion. But it made him look like a teenager and garnered sympathy for him. I think he used that to his advantage. Even going over the dates of where he was and when didn't add up for me. I think as they dig, more will come out. And while he was a 'victim', if he was the initial shooter in this incident and was shot in return, to ME, there is a different distinction in how much a 'victim' one is, when you are involved in criminal activity. And i'll admit, i'm pro LE. I'm hard on criminal activity and don't have much of a gray area. I've seen too much in working with them, and the actions of others, that I just don't have the sympathy/empathy for the criminal element. Too many innocent people are hurt/killed at the expense of those that don't care about the law.

Entrepreneur. LOL. That was number one tip off for me right at the beginning. I was LMAO the whole time. It seems JB lived a pretty nice lifestyle. Didn't think managing a couple properties would be very lucrative to afford that. All the info was out there as to what the final answer was going to be if people wanted to open their eyes. IMO.

 

[BellaVita]

Joshua Brown was murdered.
That makes him a victim.
Even if his lifestyle choices contributed to his murder, he is a victim now, IMO

Even if he shot first?

 

[Aydrianna523]

My 1 1/2 cents worth:
Its two thing we're really talking about here. First, was his testimony true on the stand? I haven't heard it said that he lied.
I think looks (always) matter but I think we'd all be somewhat afraid to testify in court... for various reasons.
Now the drug thing and his murder. Isn't it still a murder if you're selling drugs? And will we ever know what really happened in that car? I guess we'll all stay tuned.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

How about kudos to the Dallas LE. Brass just gave an incredible press conference, praised his officers, praised the public, commented on the value of human life, and worked swiftly to identify those involved, with 1 arrest and 2 pending. Great job, Dallas LE!

Thanks to those who shared the video.

 

[Aydrianna523]

Consider the source. It's called Tyranny of the Few. God forbid, someone expresses their Christianity and it's a federal crime. But if someone deals drugs for a living, it's called "poor choices". Somehow the actions of Judge Kemp have been elevated to worse than being a drug dealer. Up is Down, and Down is Up. Somebody can purposely mislead the public into believing DPD is responsible for a Mafia style hit on a witness but is still defended by many.

I think it has more to do with a judge's association with a cop than anything else. Otherwise I don't think it would have been a big deal....

 

[Kakidoll]

Not to nitpick, but weed price is not linear as quantity increases.

If an ounce costs $350 (which I'd guess is about right for Louisiana) and a pound--16oz--is 3K as you said (which I also think is about right), then it would probably be in the ballpark of 5k for one kilo, and maybe something like 20K for all six. Maybe less than that.

It's still a lot, to be sure, but I'm confident it's not close to 36K.

They collected 12 LBS from inside his apartment, not counting the 43 or so vials of THC. That is where i got my numbers from.

 

[Artis]

Not to nitpick, but weed price is not linear as quantity increases.

If an ounce costs $350 (which I'd guess is about right for Louisiana) and a pound--16oz--is 3K as you said (which I also think is about right), then it would probably be in the ballpark of 5k for one kilo, and maybe something like 20K for all six. Maybe less than that.

It's still a lot, to be sure, but I'm confident it's not close to 36K.

That's some pretty high prices but I live in state where it's legal (as it should be everywhere - it's a plant, ffs). 100 bucks for an ounce of Gorilla Glue (good weed) from a dispensary or free if you grow your own. Imagine all of the grief that would be avoided were it legalized everywhere. Not that certain type's of people might not find other reasons to shoot each other but it would probably help the murder rate to go way down.

 

[kittythehare]

I think there are MUCH bigger issues than quibbling over the price of an ounce. That 3k was calculated on smaller sales. If he was a distributor halfway up the chain, as your pricing suggests, it's a worse picture imo. He was portrayed as an entrepreneur and all that's right about America, and this ain't that.

It's a separate subject
Of course the cost of the product is a relevant discussion.
How is it sensible to travel all the way to Texas for the purchase of weed when there is a perfect growing climate in Louisiana.?
It's new information.
We're looking at it from all angles.
Amber Guyger was convicted of murder on her own testimony, primarily.
She did murder Botham Jean.
It's not like he was in the apartment when she did it and had a full view of her actions and testified to that. He was primarily testifying to acoustics, what he heard and what he did not.
He was not the only state witness.
And even if it turns out that they are all drug dealers, it's unlikely she was convicted on all of their testimonies.

I'm not seeing a macabre plot by the prosecution here.
I am shocked by my own stupidity and failure to read it accurately but I shouldn't be, I guess.

 

[jjenny]

I think if you look at the beginning of the thread, there were some posts suggesting his murder could have been a drug deal gone bad and they were admonished by the rest. Well, looks like they were right.

 

[Aydrianna523]

How about kudos to the Dallas LE. Brass just gave an incredible press conference, praised his officers, praised the public, commented on the value of human life, and worked swiftly to identify those involved, with 1 arrest and 2 pending. Great job, Dallas LE!

Thanks to those who shared the video.

Thx. I'm heading to check that out.

 

[kittythehare]

That's some pretty high prices but I live in state where it's legal (as it should be everywhere - it's a plant, ffs). 100 bucks for an ounce of Gorilla Glue (good weed) from a dispensary or free if you grow your own. Imagine all of the grief that would be avoided were it legalized everywhere. Not that certain type's of people might not find other reasons to shoot each other but it would probably help the murder rate to go way down.

That's more like the price I was expecting.
And I agree with your sentiments.

 

[GoBuckeyes]

My 1 1/2 cents worth:
Its two thing we're really talking about here. First, was his testimony true on the stand? I haven't heard it said that he lied.
I think looks (always) matter but I think we'd all be somewhat afraid to testify in court... for various reasons.
Now the drug thing and his murder. Isn't it still a murder if you're selling drugs? And will we ever know what really happened in that car? I guess we'll all stay tuned.

Had he lived, he'd be charged with a fistful of felonies. They'd probably all be charged with attempted murder had he lived and all other circumstances remained the same. It seems in most states that it is murder if it occurs during the commission of a felony. Somebody upthread mentioned seeing some exceptions to this in Florida. So there probably are other states that allow one to argue self-defense. But imoo, most states charge with murder everyone involved when someone dies during the commission of a felony.

 

[kittythehare]

They collected 12 LBS from inside his apartment, not counting the 43 or so vials of THC. That is where i got my numbers from.

was 27 grams of thc in vials far as I recall, that's less than an ounce.