TX TX - Joshua Davis, 18 months, New Braunfels, 4 Feb 2011 - # 1

[justthinkin]

It would make a lot of sense for LE to get scent dogs to check every vehicle of every guest who was at that house that night to see if the dogs hit on any of the cars/trucks.

Surely this would have been done already. If not, they need to do this.

 

[SailorMoon]

Okay.....everyone buy the parent's story or not. If you believe he walked out by himself and is "lost" - thank this post. I'm not sure what I think!!

 

[MsFacetious]

Okay... this may be totally petty but it's bothering me.

What basketball game were they watching?!

I don't know about college basketball, so if it was a college game... I have no clue.


I do know that the Spurs game had not even started when they reported him missing.

It started at 9pm because they played Sacramento IN Sacramento. So it may have been pregame stuff going on at 8:30, but not the game.

Joshua was reported missing at 8:38pm. So the friend who left may have been going home to watch the game at his own house if he couldn't stay late enough to watch it there.


Or there was the Dallas vs Boston game which DID start at 7pm and would have been about halftime when the friend left. The friend could have been leaving to get home before the 2nd half started.

Either way, the timing of the friend leaving is consistent with not wanting to miss any of the game. The timing itself is not suspicious to me.


The Rockets didn't play Friday night.

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/02/04/spurs-vs-kings-game-chat/

The Spurs continue the rodeo road trip tonight against the Sacrament Kings at 9 p.m. (Central).

http://www.nba.com/mavericks/inside...wdown_of_allstars_in_beantown_2011_02_03.html

The Mavericks continue their road trip, touching down in Boston for Friday night’s matchup against the Celtics. The game will tip off at 7 p.m. CT, airing locally on Fox Sports Southwest and nationally on ESPN.

 

[sherbetjello]

I read on CNN I think that a man at the party left for a while during the time the child went missing and then came back but is not considered a suspect. Also, if someone at a party says: 'I need to pick up some smokes at the store, be right back" for example, I would not walk them to the door and say goodbye.



Everyone was apparently there when he was found missing, from what I read.

Hinky, hinky meter, x 1,00000000.

 

[cluciano63]

Maybe the baby was not missing when the man who left and came back, returned.
Also there is very little, if any, college b'ball on Friday nights.

 

[sherbetjello]

Maybe the baby was not missing when the man who left and came back, returned.
Also there is very little, if any, college b'ball on Friday nights.

Good point, I didn't think of it like that.

Also, for the board, NBA lineup for the 1st - 7th. PLENTY of games Friday night:

http://espn.go.com/nba/schedule/_/date/20110201

 

[joedotnet]

Good point, I didn't think of it like that.

Also, for the board, NBA lineup for the 1st - 7th. PLENTY of games Friday night:

http://espn.go.com/nba/schedule/_/date/20110201

here are the college games from friday - http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/scoreboard?date=20110204&confId=50

 

[ThoughtFox]

About 20 years ago, while my husband and I were packing up to move from an apartment into a house, my 16-month-old son got away and walked down the driveway of our building, and somehow managed to open the door of a small car and climb inside. Of course he couldn't close the car door so we found him right away. He could have been badly hurt or wandered into the street. He could have been kidnapped or any number of things - I was mortified and it still makes my heart pound just thinking about it, even though that son is fine and sitting in the living room while I type this.

I never underestimate what a child that age can do, whether they can get a door open, or how far they can walk or climb. My youngest son used to take off across a field to with me following him and it would be a long time before he would even glance behind to see if I was there, just in his own little world. He wasn't afraid of the dark either, so the only thing that would stop him from going outside was a good deadbolt lock up high where he couldn't reach it.

When my daughter was three, she wandered away in Toys R Us once and ended up on the other side of the store because she had followed some other kids and didn't even know we were looking for her. We were hysterical and had the store in lockdown before we found her.

So my heart goes out to these parents. There have been so many of these cases where a little child goes wandering away lately and it just breaks my heart.

 

[cluciano63]

Do they have a dish on their mobile home? They would have to, to get any of those games played outside of TX.

I can't even make a guess as to what happened to this baby. I do think it is possible he got out and wandered or crawled off, but cannot believe he has not been found in 4+ days...

 

[sherbetjello]

You can catch a lot of Western Conference games out in Texas, with or without satellite.
http://www.nba.com/depth_charts/dcWest.html
ESPN will play them too.
I have Comcast and just last week I noticed that I now have an NBA channel - plays all the games for the most part.

I honestly don't know how the game works into this case, just brought it over because it keeps coming up. Probably clutter at this point, so pardon me.

From what I have read, if dogs haven't picked up his scent and he hasn't been found in this area.... I believe, and I hate to say this, he was picked up and carried off.

I agree with the poster that said all cars should be searched and checked for scent. I don't know how LE is working the case, and this isn't judgment by any means, but in one story we hear everyone is suspect and now in this case we hear no one... he "wandered off".

I don't take 18-month old children for docile, stagnant beings - I have had a few, I know how they operate and most are magicians. However, I do not believe that this child would of made if far w/o someone hearing him - especially without shoes in that kind of weather.

 

[nursebeeme]

Now the FBI is helping police as authorities enter day four in the search for missing Josh Davis Jr.
Police are out in full force searching the area with bloodhounds.

They are talking with neighbors and using a camera to search around the mobile homes.

another snip

New Braunfels police Lt. Michael Penshorn says a parallel criminal investigation is also under way into the circumstances behind the boy's disappearance. He said he had no information on the details, but hte family is cooperating.

http://www.kens5.com/news/Bloodhoun...-missing-New-Braunfels-toddler-115572099.html

 

[Tuffy]

Do they have a dish on their mobile home? They would have to, to get any of those games played outside of TX.

I can't even make a guess as to what happened to this baby. I do think it is possible he got out and wandered or crawled off, but cannot believe he has not been found in 4+ days...

This is what has me scratching my head.

I don't doubt that little ones can surprise parents by their ability to escape. My 3 year-old daughter (whom I didn't think could even reach the lock) walked out the side door at our new house, and took off down the sidewalk. It was night, she was in her jammies. No fear at all, she just decided to go for a walk, I guess.

I thought she was playing with her 12 year old brother in his room, but no, she just took off. Luckily a neighbor spotted her, grabbed her, and called 911. We immediately panicked when we realized she went outside, and started running around the neighborhoods screaming her name. Neighbor spotted us, and brought her over.

So, I understand how a kid can get out like that. They're like little Houdinis sometimes. I just don't get that there is not a trace of him anywhere.

 

[justthinkin]

<snip>

Still, Benitez said her toddler couldn't have gotten outside himself, noting he wasn't tall enough to turn a doorknob.

"The only way that the baby would have gotten out the door is (if) the front door (was) open," she said. "But we had the doors closed."

Ice covered the steps outside, leading Benitez to believe that there would be signs of Josh if he did get out.

Still, as of Monday, police searches involving people, helicopters and dogs hadn't led to any signs of the boy.

"They had scent dogs out here, and (they) said there was no scent of him leaving the yard," the toddler's father, Josh Davis Sr., told CNN affiliate KENS. "So I don't see how he could have wandered off, or else they would have picked something up."

more here

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/02/08/texas.missing.boy/index.html


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GRACE: We are taking your calls. Straight out to Michael Board, WOAI Newsradio.

Michael, what happened? I don`t understand how you can see the baby and 10 minutes before, and then suddenly the baby`s gone.

MICHAEL BOARD, REPORTER, WOAI NEWSRADIO: Well, police are saying that it looks like he just was able to wander out of his home. We know that the latch on the door in this home did not work.

Some big developments in this case today, Nancy, though. We have to tell you that the radius, the search radius for little Joshua has been expanded now for two miles. One of the things that they`re doing is, this is a neighborhood full of prefabricated homes, some of the officers as well as search dogs are going underneath these homes to see if maybe the baby was able to wiggle its way underneath there.

Also in the cases where a human or a dog couldn`t fit under there, they`ve got high-tech cameras that are able to go underneath these homes to see if maybe possibly this child was able to make its way under there -- underneath here in the freezing weather we`ve had in south Texas.

more here

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1102/07/ng.02.html

Now this is really interesting, TexasMist, because didn't the father say the child probably opened the glass storm door because it was broken?

So now the mom is saying there is no way Joshua could've opened the door as the doors were closed. HMMM. I wonder if this child wasn't traded for drugs or something, a gun or who knows what, with or without the parents' knowledge?

The answer is somewhere! If the dogs have turned up nothing, then this baby didn't wander off. I fully trust the dogs' certified noses.

 

[Trident]

it seems if this little fella wandered off the searchers or dogs would've found him by now. did they ever say if dogs picked up his scent anywhere?

(enlarged by me)

This is a red flag to me: there's no way he could have walked down those steps and not slipped and gotten hurt. I've busted my behind (and a laptop) falling down our ice-covered steps... I fear this is going to turn out to be someone who was in the house - a family member or friend. And he is either very close by or was removed from the house by someone, unnoticed by the other adults.

I don't think he wandered off.

:no:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a grandfather and at least one other adult woman in that house that night? Didn't Grandpa say he was going to take a lie detector test? I believe I heard that last night on NG, but I was half asleep, so who knows. IF I'm right, there are more possibilities here than a friend who left to go home.

I don't have a clue who did what, just throwing this out here, and I may be wrong.

 

[fhc]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't there a grandfather and at least one other adult woman in that house that night? Didn't Grandpa say he was going to take a lie detector test? I believe I heard that last night on NG, but I was half asleep, so who knows. IF I'm right, there are more possibilities here than a friend who left to go home.

I don't have a clue who did what, just throwing this out here, and I may be wrong.

iirc, not just from NG, but throughout reports

SB last saw junior at 7:40pm in a room where she had the movie Toy Story on.

JD sr last saw junior at 8pm when jr tried to pull off sr's beanie.

SB saw 1st born son in another room with Gpa as she looked for jr.

other guests/family members were around dining room table watching a basketball game.

no drugs or alcohol involved.

8:30-8:40pm LE notified and responded to residence

HTH

 

[fhc]

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/lo...e-continue-search-for-missing-tot-1003212.php

update on efforts

 

[Dee10]

I thought this was interesting.

The boy's parents made comments, some to media and some in the earshot of media, that indicated there might be leads in a criminal investigation.

Lt. Michael Penshorn, the department's spokesman, said he knew nothing of those rumors.

&#8220;We're not naming anyone of interest,&#8221; he said. &#8220;We still have people searching, but we're operating a parallel investigation.&#8221;

Texas Rangers and FBI agents are helping New Braunfels investigators pore over interviews and data collected from the scene just to make sure all angles are pursued and all possible leads discovered and exhausted.

Read more: http://www.mysanantonio.com/default...rch-for-missing-tot-1003212.php#ixzz1DOj6a0EL
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[SurfieTX]

Front door of home

 

[sarx]

Front door of home

When was it taken?

 

[momtective]

Now this is really interesting, TexasMist, because didn't the father say the child probably opened the glass storm door because it was broken?

So now the mom is saying there is no way Joshua could've opened the door as the doors were closed. HMMM. I wonder if this child wasn't traded for drugs or something, a gun or who knows what, with or without the parents' knowledge?

The answer is somewhere! If the dogs have turned up nothing, then this baby didn't wander off. I fully trust the dogs' certified noses.

B-1 and I hear a BINGO..that's what I've been thinking ever since I heard that someone left the house...maybe someone was owed for some dope and took the baby in payment...just thinking out loud here.:waitasec: