TX TX - Joshua Davis, 18 months, New Braunfels, 4 Feb 2011 - # 4

[HiHater]

CPS doen't need solid proof of abuse or neglect to remove a child. All they need is suspicion and concern for the childs safety.

Under circumstances such as Joshua's disappearance and with what's now being said by LE, it makes perfect sense to keep the dad's children and the mom's children out of that home.

We will find out soon enough, I imagine.

I guess we will agree to disagree. Family preservation is the goal, and at this moment, from what WE know there is nothing that says abuse/neglect. LE knows more and would probably be a large determining factor. There are laws that protect people from CPS taking their kids because they are simply under suspicion & removal from the home would indicate that a child is in immediate danger. So, like I said, unless LE provides some concrete evidence to CPS, the child would likely stay in the home. I'm speaking from experience, not my own kids being taken, but I did a 6 month internship with CPS here...

 

[HiHater]

He does live with them.

Guess we shall see.

Joshua A. Davis is a painter who paints custom homes. A 2005 graduate of Canyon High School in New Braunfels, he started working right after high school to support his first son, now 7 and living with the child’s mother.

“She’s just telling us to keep our heads up, and she’s praying for us,” Davis said of his ex’s support.

http://herald-zeitung.com/news/local_news/article_81076280-3979-11e0-9a54-001cc4c002e0.html

So no, the 6 now 7 year old does not live in the home with baby Joshua.

 

[lillys]

How interesting. That child lived with his dad and SB until when? That article was written?

 

[lillys]

I guess we will agree to disagree. Family preservation is the goal, and at this moment, from what WE know there is nothing that says abuse/neglect. LE knows more and would probably be a large determining factor. There are laws that protect people from CPS taking their kids because they are simply under suspicion & removal from the home would indicate that a child is in immediate danger. So, like I said, unless LE provides some concrete evidence to CPS, the child would likely stay in the home. I'm speaking from experience, not my own kids being taken, but I did a 6 month internship with CPS here...

I've worked with 2 county CPS departments myself so experience is also my friend.

Family preservation is one thing
A child's protection and well being is another.

 

[katydid23]

http://herald-zeitung.com/news/local_news/article_81076280-3979-11e0-9a54-001cc4c002e0.html

So no, the 6 now 7 year old does not live in the home with baby Joshua.

Maybe he did live with them briefly. But it seems like the mother of the child may have decided to take him back with her. I would too if I were her in that situation.

 

[lillys]

It will be interesting if they go back to that home with the new baby and stay living with the grandfather and his gf because LE has already stated that Joshua did not run off nor was he abducted by strangers. So what else is left? Just the occupants of the home that evening imo.

katy,
Makes sense... to us anyway.
You made a good observation--the occupants of the home that evening may hold the key to this child's demise.
Why and what would an entire family cover up?
imoo

 

[HiHater]

I've worked with 2 county CPS departments myself so experience is also my friend.

Family preservation is one thing
A child's protection and well being is another.

with the former being honored until there's a good reason not to do so based on the latter. There are so many steps that can be taken before a child is removed. A lot of times its not just this happened so your kid has to come with me. It's we heard about this, you need to do this, this, and that, or your kid has to come with me. Or do this and your kid can go back with you.

 

[HiHater]

How interesting. That child lived with his dad and SB until when? That article was written?

I've never seen anything that says exactly who LIVED in the house. I've only read who was present at the time Joshua went missing...So we can't assume that the 6 year old lived with his dad at any point in time--any more than we can assume who else lived in that house.

2/15

 

[lillys]

I've never seen anything that says exactly who LIVED in the house. I've only read who was present at the time Joshua went missing...So we can't assume that the 6 year old lived with his dad at any point in time--any more than we can assume who else lived in that house.

2/15

This will be my last post, bedtime and all.
Joshua's mother, SB, in one of her interviews said the 6 year old child lived in the house. That is all I can tell you. I don't know these people. I don't live in Texas and I don't follow them on fb.

 

[katydid23]

I've never seen anything that says exactly who LIVED in the house. I've only read who was present at the time Joshua went missing...So we can't assume that the 6 year old lived with his dad at any point in time--any more than we can assume who else lived in that house.

2/15

I couldn't find it when I just went back to look, but somewhere way upstream, someone had posted info about the home. The info posted showed the grandfather as the legal owner of the home.
So I am guessing that Grandfather lives there, but with who? Grandmother or girlfriend? LOL

 

[HiHater]

This will be my last post, bedtime and all.
Joshua's mother, SB, in one of her interviews said the 6 year old child lived in the house. That is all I can tell you. I don't know these people. I don't live in Texas and I don't follow them on fb.

Good night.

 

[HiHater]

I couldn't find it when I just went back to look, but somewhere way upstream, someone had posted info about the home. The info posted showed the grandfather as the legal owner of the home.
So I am guessing that Grandfather lives there, but with who? Grandmother or girlfriend? LOL

Maybe both? lol

 

[HiHater]

A few interesting tidbits on the Comal County Jail website. Since there are no POI's I will refrain from directly posting info though...

 

[Fairy1]

CPS doen't need solid proof of abuse or neglect to remove a child. All they need is suspicion and concern for the childs safety.

Under circumstances such as Joshua's disappearance and with what's now being said by LE, it makes perfect sense to keep the dad's children and the mom's children out of that home.

We will find out soon enough, I imagine.

That's complete nonsense! CPS all over the country has dropped the ball over and over and over again - even where there was plenty of proof.

If they send that baby home with SB and JD, that will say a lot to me.

 

[Tuffy]

A few interesting tidbits on the Comal County Jail website. Since there are no POI's I will refrain from directly posting info though...

Oh..

 

[Ives]

I'm in bexar county, but recently, but almost a year ago, my nieces and nephews got out of the house early one morning, and my nephew wondered off. Gone for 4 hours?(with police helpfor 3and a half of that, found 2 miles from home, well they found the dog who took them to him. Thank the god lord he was found safe. This was country, 281 south for you locals ,
Point here, cuz I ramble, cps was there that day. They did an investigation on all parents present. They didnt remove the children because he was found safe.these are good parents, but if they weren't, i'd be concerned. The whole cps case changed hands numerous times, lost facts, case closed because cps couldn'tget it together.
Not trashing cps. Just an sampler of how overloaded they are. I'm sure if he wasnt found,the rest of the kids would have been taken.

 

[MsFacetious]

I think if the baby comes home with his parents, then LE is looking elsewhere. Not sure how we will know?

I think that if they take this newborn, they better be putting handcuffs on his parents when they do. Taking a newborn away from a mother is a big deal. Especially when her other child is missing.

The missing child is a toddler, this is a newborn. Totally different worlds. Kind of like Kyron was a 7 year old boy, his sister was a 18 month old girl. Nobody was truly concerned for her safety.

If Josh Powell, Drew Peterson, Ron Cummings and Karla Homolka get to keep their kids when they are not incarcerated... then the same thing should apply here.

They don't even have major criminal records that I know of. An open container charge and a 2 year old credit card charge. Ron Cummings and Karla Homolka have far worse criminal records... and again when not incarcerated they have their children.

If they are not charged with anything and there is not obvious abuse or major neglect in the home, that baby should be going home with them. Motivation to solve the case and find Joshua.

 

[mommy23]

Oh..

I need help, not finding anything... Maybe too late at night for me

 

[momtective]

I think some people are missing the point---the 6 year old MAY NOT live in that home. Why wouldn't he go with his MOTHER, who is not SB, instead of protective custody? I agree that the newborn baby may get taken, but then again, unless LE provides proof of something to CPS then that will not happen either.

I wasn't aware that the 6 year old didn't live with SB and the rest of the family on Savannah Hill Circle. If indeed he lives with his mother then of course CPS would not remove him...but the new baby, now that is a different story.

 

[cluciano63]

A few interesting tidbits on the Comal County Jail website. Since there are no POI's I will refrain from directly posting info though...

? not seeing anything...

Well, I did see the photos of two cows and a calf that were found...