TX TX - Joshua Davis, 18 months, New Braunfels, 4 Feb 2011 - # 4

[mommy23]

Ok, my dear DH was not the best with kiddos from baby until the 18 month RANGE).. And I say range because each child was different, he was and still is a great Daddy, but those early ages were hard for him. baby until they were more "kids" is very different. I don't see anything with the dad saying what he said different from my kids dad. Its just the way he talks.

I don't know, the "friend" that changed the story is a bigger concern for me than then the Dad, JMO. I think Dad is remembering what is in his mind, and there is no reason to tear it apart. It is SIMPLY just his wording. Nothing more. I am firmly on the fence that these parents had nothing to do with Joshua disapearing. :fence:

 

[belimom]

It's a private FB but if you add her you will see the stuff...

Doesn't she have to accept?

 

[HiHater]

Doesn't she have to accept?

More than likely she will. She accepted me and about 20 other people today...The page that is for Joshua is a bit negative, so I think people are adding the mom directly instead of going there.....

 

[nursebeeme]

why is it that when I try to look for media updates on his case I find NOTHING.... this is wrong...wrong...wrong..... where IS THIS CHILD?

 

[HiHater]

why is it that when I try to look for media updates on his case I find NOTHING.... this is wrong...wrong...wrong..... where IS THIS CHILD?

The same thing happened with Shaniya Davis...now I have to google and see whatever happened to the mom in that case...

 

[nursebeeme]

The same thing happened with Shaniya Davis...now I have to google and see whatever happened to the mom in that case...

it didn't happen BEFORE she was found though!

this BABY is still missing!!!! ((sorry.. yes I am yelling... it is unbelievable))

 

[HiHater]

it didn't happen BEFORE she was found though!

this BABY is still missing!!!! ((sorry.. yes I am yelling... it is unbelievable))

Yea, sorry didn't mean to offend you...I just meant people are looking for info and none was being disseminated.

 

[Dee10]

To me, the reason it is important is that it is apparently, the LAST reported sighting of little Joshua. At 8pm, dad tells him to stop playing with his beanie, and then the kid goes missing.

Add to that, the statement from Mom, that at 7:40, she 'knew he was missing' when he did not come back into the room to watch the movie with her.

I still cannot understand what happened in that 20 minute interval when the baby was 'missing' according to mom, yet is just yards away with Dad. Makes no sense to me.
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JD: “I last saw my son around 8 last night. He was pulling on my beanie trying to take it off. He was behind my chair. When I told him to stop, he looked at me and smiled. That was the last time I saw him.”
SB: “They have no leads. I last saw him around 7:40 p.m. in my room watching ‘Toy Story.’ When I realized he hadn’t come back to watch with me, I realized he was missing.”
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Yes, the timeline is really troubling to me as well, with all those adults there. If originally they thought he got out, did they search around the neighborhood first? Maybe that is why the Grandfather called 911 or did they just have him dial 911 & wait inside? I really wish we had some answers, it is really mind boggling for everyone. I wish others there would speak out. This case is fading from the news.

 

[Noway]

Hard to know whether these are accurate:


(New Braunfels, TX) -- An 18-month old toddler is still missing, despite the best efforts of New Braunfels Police and nearby neighbors who went out into the cold night searching for the young boy. Police officials say they were first called out to the 26-hundred block of Savannah Hill Circle (which sits off of Klein Road, on the east side of I-35) just before 9 o’clock last night after the mother of the 18-month old boy reported him missing.

She had last seen him inside their residence about 20-minutes prior to calling police, and responding officers searched the home multiple times, then added a grid search of the entire neighborhood, with no luck finding the toddler.

So a DPS helicopter was called in to search by air, while 2400 residents in the surrounding area were notified of the incident through the city’s Emergency Notification System. Dozens of neighbors then poured into the streets, helping New Braunfels Police and Guadalupe County Sheriff’s Officers look for the young boy, but to no avail.

http://kgnb.am/news/toddler-still-missing-despite-search-police-and-neighbors

As far as immediate search after determining he was not in the house and they called 911, I don't know.

IIRC they had last seen him 20 minutes before calling the police, and the police were called at 8:38 pm, so estimate 8:18 pm he was last seen. If LE didn't arrive until close to 9, that was about 45 minutes that he would have had to wander.

eta
PD sent out an emergency notice via telephone explaining this circumstance about 9:30pm according to a post in the comments.

 

[Noway]

Police were summoned shortly before 8:40 p.m. Friday and told Joshua Davis Jr. had last been seen inside his parents' mobile home in the 2600 block of Savannah Hill Circle about 20 minutes earlier.

Read more: http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/lo...ler-in-New-Braunfels-998497.php#ixzz1E5DrpdaE
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[Noway]

I know the mother said the door was closed all evening.

And then you read something like this: Throughout the evening, the glass front door was open.

http://herald-zeitung.com/news/community_alert/article_27b09820-3166-11e0-a076-001cc4c002e0.html

And you wonder ... who got it wrong?

 

[katydid23]

I know the mother said the door was closed all evening.

And then you read something like this: Throughout the evening, the glass front door was open.

http://herald-zeitung.com/news/community_alert/article_27b09820-3166-11e0-a076-001cc4c002e0.html

And you wonder ... who got it wrong?

And she also said she last sw the boy at 7;40, and that was when she realized he was missing. REALLY?

So where was he and who was he with from 7;40 until just before 9 when the cops were called in?

 

[katydid23]

I am sorry, I have resisted coming to this unfortunate conclusion. Howerver I really feel that something happened to him INSIDE that home. And I don't feel like the Mom was responsible for it.
The home was full of the father's people, not the mother's.

 

[not_my_kids]

http://www.neighborcity.com/propert...Circle-New-Braunfels-TX-78130-146826-1192582/
Sorry, the bedroom info was on a previously posted link, the one above. Between the two links (Sorry, I really thought it was all on one), you can see that it's more than 1500 square feet, four bedrooms and 2 bathrooms. For a mobile home, that's a lot of space to cover.

 

[pamlet]

1500 isn't really that big .. And it depends on the layout .. If there's a hall - or if it's split bedrooms .. And at 1500 sq ft - those 4 bedrooms have to be TEENY TINY ..

 

[not_my_kids]

1500 isn't really that big .. And it depends on the layout .. If there's a hall - or if it's split bedrooms .. And at 1500 sq ft - those 4 bedrooms have to be TEENY TINY ..

Yes, but think about it terms of everyone being able to see everyone else. If it's four bedrooms, yes, they would be small, and we can assume the bathrooms are quite small too. But it's a lot of doors to be closed between people, a lot of other rooms that you can assume someone is in.

Belimom- didn't you do a list of who was who and who was hanging out in what room? I know it wasn't complete, but it was the best one I'd seen put together.

 

[jwinchester]

If the child was supposed to be in the bedroom with Mom, I would smile at the baby, pick him up gently and return him to his mother. I definitely would not just say "stop".

I personally think that a person who takes the time to teach a toddler would be much less likely to beat the child than a parent who just wants the baby to stop pulling his beanie.

I think taking the father's summary statement of what happened as being the absolute final complete description of the event is probably going to lead us astray. "I told him to stop" could mean anything from just saying "stop" to saying "hey buddy, I know that's funny but could you please stop". Without knowing more my guess is as good as yours, so I'm definitely not claiming that my interpretation has more evidence to support it.

I do feel, for myself, that a greater degree of evidence is necessary before I could suggest a person may be guilty of something so heinous, but you and others may (quite legitimately) have a different personal standard of where that line begins, so it's just down to individual preferences.

However, I disagree that either a parent approaches the issue in a teaching way or must be considered more likely to beat their child. With a nearly infinite set of different approaches to parenting which don't fall under the understood definitions of abusive, I feel it is very difficult to accurately gauge much based on differences in opinion about them.

 

[lillys]

And she also said she last sw the boy at 7;40, and that was when she realized he was missing. REALLY?

So where was he and who was he with from 7;40 until just before 9 when the cops were called in?

Question of the day....imo anyway.

 

[jwinchester]

And if he had lost his temper and hit the child too hard, that does not implicate ALL of the other adults. He could have hidden the child by himself.
It has happened that way before, too many times to count.

That is true -- one possibility I've considered is that a person might feel even more compelled to cover up an accident if there were many family members around, and the same goes for a deliberate attack which may have been concealed from the others. So you are right that it cannot be ruled out just because there were many people around, if it was hidden from them.

 

[lillys]

I am sorry, I have resisted coming to this unfortunate conclusion. Howerver I really feel that something happened to him INSIDE that home. And I don't feel like the Mom was responsible for it.
The home was full of the father's people, not the mother's.

agree