TX TX - Julie Moseley, 9, Mary Trlica, 17, Lisa Wilson, 14, Fort Worth, 23 Dec 1974 #8

[Pricklykitty]

FW Cat also openly admitted here that she sent RA on a wild goose chase regarding the two cars and that there had never been two cars. So what excactly was RA doing and saying just prior to this that made one of DA's good friends feel the need to mislead him in this way?
Because whatever it was maybe he should consider going back to it.

Absolutely this! He might want to cast a side eye towards ST at the same time imo

 

[Brightchaser47]

FW_Cat's claim that TT married Rachel because he thought she was pregnant doesn't jibe with the popular belief that Rachel was forced to marry TT to save her family from financial ruin, unless it's being implied that she was instructed to deceive him in the matter (knowing that's probably what he'd do).

 

[Toniab329]

FW Cat also openly admitted here that she sent RA on a wild goose chase regarding the two cars and that there had never been two cars. So what excactly was RA doing and saying just prior to this that made one of DA's good friends feel the need to mislead him in this way?
Because whatever it was maybe he should consider going back to it.

I don't remember that at all! Maybe it was deleted before I got there? I was considering re-reading the thread, I think I'll do that now.

 

[Toniab329]

FW_Cat's claim that TT married Rachel because he thought she was pregnant doesn't jibe with the popular belief that Rachel was forced to marry TT to save her family from financial ruin, unless it's being implied that she was instructed to deceive him in the matter (knowing that's probably what he'd do).

Right, I thought about that, then came to that same conclusion--that they'd coerced her into the lie. The engagement with DA didn't work out, so let's try again with Rachel, but add something to make it stick this time.

 

[Toniab329]

Welcome to the group Toniab329. FW_Cat lived a couple houses from where DA lived growing up in Edgecliff and where FA still lives. KA says she has a handwriting expert that will testify in court that TT wrote both the letter and the envelope. I myself think TT and DA both wrote parts and that's why the FBI said it was inconclusive JMO.

Thank you. And I'd forgotten about that. I'd be curious about where this handwriting expert even sees any similarities in the two. When I look at the letter and the envelope, all I see are discrepancies.

 

[Brightchaser47]

I myself think TT and DA both wrote parts and that's why the FBI said it was inconclusive JMO.

You'd think, though, that the 'experts' (if they had samples from both individuals to compare) would've come to that same conclusion, rather than "inconclusive". Having said that (and I'm no handwriting analyst), TT's handwriting seems rather consistent, while DA's varies a bit-- maybe depending on mood or whether there are drugs or alcohol involved. Some people write differently when they're angry, nervous, etc.JMO

 

[Brightchaser47]

Thank you. And I'd forgotten about that. I'd be curious about where this handwriting expert even sees any similarities in the two. When I look at the letter and the envelope, all I see are discrepancies.

There are definitely (at least) two different styles of penmanship at work there (in the letter), IMO.

 

[Brightchaser47]

Right, I thought about that, then came to that same conclusion--that they'd coerced her into the lie. The engagement with DA didn't work out, so let's try again with Rachel, but add something to make it stick this time.

That would imply someone was involved in the scheme who knew TT well enough to know he'd go for that.

 

[Pricklykitty]

That would imply someone was involved in the scheme who knew TT well enough to know he'd go for that.

Knowing he had married ST due to pregnancy would give them the idea he would see it as a responsibility to do so.

 

[Brightchaser47]

Knowing he had married ST due to pregnancy would give them the idea he would see it as a responsibility to do so.

I agree, but how would they know that unless either DA and ST or Rachel and ST talked (read "knew each other better than we've been led to believe"). TT could've admitted to it, but I doubt it.

 

[Toniab329]

That would imply someone was involved in the scheme who knew TT well enough to know he'd go for that.

I assumed he'd married ST for that reason, but I don't know the specifics of that marriage, so it's just conjecture on my part. Are you thinking of someone in particular?

I've always wondered how TT even knew the A's. Does anyone know? Do we even know for sure if he was engaged to DA before or after his first marriage? I guess none of that matters, I just think it's so odd that there's SO many unknowns in this case. It happened almost 50 years ago, not 500.

 

[Pricklykitty]

I agree, but how would they know that unless either DA and ST or Rachel and ST talked (read "knew each other better than we've been led to believe"). TT could've admitted to it, but I doubt it.

Maybe its the kind of thing TT would talk about with an older man.....sharing his marriage woes, and the reason he married in the first place. Thats just thinking out loud since we don't have a clue how well he knew CA of course.....

 

[Pricklykitty]

I've always wondered how TT even knew the A's. Does anyone know? Do we even know for sure if he was engaged to DA before or after his first marriage? I guess none of that matters, I just think it's so odd that there's SO many unknowns in this case. It happened almost 50 years ago, not 500.

There are so many unknowns and so many different versions of the same event, its almost impossible to get to the truth.
I saw a relative of TT say he only dated Debra about a month, whether thats true or not is unknown

 

[Brightchaser47]

I've always wondered how TT even knew the A's. Does anyone know?

I've always assumed maybe a racing connection, but that's just a guess. Has TT ever shared that?

I just think it's so odd that there's SO many unknowns in this case. It happened almost 50 years ago, not 500.

It is odd, but that's because there have been practically  no verifiable straight answers in almost 50 years.

 

[Brightchaser47]

Maybe its the kind of thing TT would talk about with an older man.....sharing his marriage woes, and the reason he married in the first place. Thats just thinking out loud since we don't have a clue how well he knew CA of course.....

That's possible, if we assume TT met CA through racing and/or went to work for him,  then met DA.

 

[Brightchaser47]

On the transmission shop flyer, it states "over 18 years experience in serving the Fort Worth and Mid Cities area". We know there were multiple locations over the years, and that CA raced cars before going into business. Even if he had given up racing, I'm sure he'd still hang out at the tracks. So it's possible they met at a racetrack somewhere and/or TT was looking for work in the automotive field, and CA hired him.

 

[FW_Froggy]

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That would imply someone was involved in the scheme who knew TT well enough to know he'd go for that.

The whole "A" family knew TT married his first wife cause she was pregnant.

 

[FW_Froggy]

That's possible, if we assume TT met CA through racing and/or went to work for him,  then met DA.

They probably met when DA brought TT over for FA's lovely Sunday dinner. FA was a great cook.

 

[Brightchaser47]

They probably met when DA brought TT over for FA's lovely Sunday dinner. FA was a great cook.

I wonder if TT and Rachel came over for Sunday dinner after they were married.

 

[FW_Froggy]

I wonder if TT and Rachel came over for Sunday dinner after they were married.

Bet they did.....By ALL counts CA loved TT.