TX TX - Julie Moseley, 9, Mary Trlica, 17, Lisa Wilson, 14, Fort Worth, 23 Dec 1974 #8

[Hearttriobroken]

Seminary South

 

[T rex]

At the 2001 press conference Detective Boetcher said it was determined the letter was mailed in Fort Worth, although he doesn't say which post office.

 

[Hearttriobroken]

The zip codes in Fort Worth proper at the time in question started with 761…

 

[Brightchaser47]

Seminary South

Still can't get over how huge that mall was....
The more I think about it, the more I question just how much actual Christmas shopping Rachel would've accomplished in the approximately 3 1/2 hours they had. Two teens with a 9 yr old in tow, as busy as that place was.
It would've been easier to hit a couple smaller individual stores like A/N, rather than tackle Seminary South that particular day. jmo

 

[jetsfanjohn]

Still can't get over how huge that mall was....
The more I think about it, the more I question just how much actual Christmas shopping Rachel would've accomplished in the approximately 3 1/2 hours they had. Two teens with a 9 yr old in tow, as busy as that place was.
It would've been easier to hit a couple smaller individual stores like A/N, rather than tackle Seminary South that particular day. jmo

Do you reckon they made it to the Mall that day ? I can never make my mind up on that issue. I think they probably did, briefly, after the A/N store, but I have not seen anything to fully convince me.

 

[Brightchaser47]

Do you reckon they made it to the Mall that day ? I can never make my mind up on that issue. I think they probably did, briefly, after the A/N store, but I have not seen anything to fully convince me.

At this point, I'm certain FWPD knows more than they're telling, so if they feel the trio were at the mall, imo it has to be because they know who the girls were with or met (or ended up with) and are protecting someone. So, I guess that means the girls did at least hit the parking lot. jmo

 

[Brightchaser47]

The narrative has always been that the girls went to SS to Christmas shop, and
FWPD has them at least on mall property before leaving with someone and meeting with foul play elsewhere. We're teased with "we have new witnesses", "the girls were seen at one point with 'X', but more people were involved"-- yet absolutely no specifics whatsoever- no times, locations, zilch.
Since it seems that both LE and the A family have something to hide, maybe they have 'X' in common ...jmo

 

[Valiant]

Still can't get over how huge that mall was....
The more I think about it, the more I question just how much actual Christmas shopping Rachel would've accomplished in the approximately 3 1/2 hours they had. Two teens with a 9 yr old in tow, as busy as that place was.
It would've been easier to hit a couple smaller individual stores like A/N, rather than tackle Seminary South that particular day. jmo

True, IF shopping was the primary reason for the visit (assume they made it to the mall).
It could have been more socializing and less shopping, especially since it seemed there wasn't a lot of money as she was paying off a layaway pair of jeans.

 

[T rex]

The zip codes in Fort Worth proper at the time in question started with 761…

I can't tell much about the zip code. It's hard to find another postmark that's as sloppy as this one. It looks like it could be hand stamped to me. Some of the numbers are not quite in line. It looks like the rollers in the stamp weren't adjusted just right.

 

[Brightchaser47]

DBM

 

[Brightchaser47]

At the 2001 press conference Detective Boetcher said it was determined the letter was mailed in Fort Worth, although he doesn't say which post office.

I can't tell much about the zip code. It's hard to find another postmark that's as sloppy as this one. It looks like it could be hand stamped to me. Some of the numbers are not quite in line. It looks like the rollers in the stamp weren't adjusted just right.

It rather makes you wonder how FWPD was able to determine it was mailed in Fort Worth.... forensic analysis? Anonymous tip?

 

[T rex]

It rather makes you wonder how FWPD was able to determine it was mailed in Fort Worth.... forensic analysis? Anonymous tip?

Maybe the people at the post office could make some sense out of that mess and it was confirmed with them. If it was machine stamped then there should have been hundreds or thousands more just like it but if it's hand stamped I don't know.

I still think it's odd that LE just happened to be at the A's house when the letter arrived at Minot. You'd think they would be at the home of one of the missing girls but all of them gathered up at the A's where they traded what was possibly a phony runaway letter for what was potentially a real piece of physical evidence (the car).

 

[tilomagnet]

Well, hindsight is always 20-20. The letter obviously did it's job to confuse everyone and buy the perps some days (weeks? months?)...

 

[beubeubeu]

It was burning my brain how anyone could seriously consider that Julie may ran away.

Well, this is Mitchell:

Mitchell was 4,5 years old while he disappeared from his home, after he walked on attempted murder of his mom.
F o u r years old child. A runaway. Then why not a 9 yo, right?

 

[PGHJW]

Well, hindsight is always 20-20. The letter obviously did it's job to confuse everyone and buy the perps some days (weeks? months?)...

Half a century and counting.

 

[Brightchaser47]

It was burning my brain how anyone could seriously consider that Julie may ran away.

Well, this is Mitchell:
View attachment 623027
Mitchell was 4,5 years old while he disappeared from his home, after he walked on attempted murder of his mom.
F o u r years old child. A runaway. Then why not a 9 yo, right?

If circumstances had been different, I could absolutely believe any or all of the trio were runaways, regardless of age. But given what we've been told (even the highly debatable parts), I just don't see that as a viable explanation-- though somebody out there obviously wanted/needed that narrative to be accepted. jmo

 

[TedMac]

If circumstances had been different, I could absolutely believe any or all of the trio were runaways, regardless of age. But given what we've been told (even the highly debatable parts), I just don't see that as a viable explanation-- though somebody out there obviously wanted/needed that narrative to be accepted. jmo

Agree 100%. I just don't believe a 9 year-old would run away 2 days before Christmas. Also, I don't see Rachel & Renee taking Julie with them if they planned to runaway. I believe that the person/persons responsible for their disappearance is someone known to them and someone who was close to at least one of them.

 

[Brightchaser47]

Well, hindsight is always 20-20. The letter obviously did it's job to confuse everyone and buy the perps some days (weeks? months?)...

What frustrates me is that the people who should've known Rachel's handwriting best were inconsistent in their statements, although supposedly providing the FBI with  stacks of writing samples. Then the FBI reportedly couldn't decide whether Rachel wrote the letter either. I have always found all that highly suspicious. I've even wondered whether the FBI's 'inconclusive' report was part of the cover-up. It just doesn't make sense to me that even the FBI with all their tools and expertise failed to glean anything useful. And now, 50+ years later, we don't even know whether the letter still exists. I feel a LOT of effort has gone into perpetuating confusion regarding that letter. jmo

 

[T rex]

Well, hindsight is always 20-20. The letter obviously did it's job to confuse everyone and buy the perps some days (weeks? months?)...

i don't think there's anything 20/20 about it.

It was burning my brain how anyone could seriously consider that Julie may ran away.

Well, this is Mitchell:
View attachment 623027
Mitchell was 4,5 years old while he disappeared from his home, after he walked on attempted murder of his mom.
F o u r years old child. A runaway. Then why not a 9 yo, right?

They say Asha Degree was a runaway at the age of 9.

What frustrates me is that the people who should've known Rachel's handwriting best were inconsistent in their statements, although supposedly providing the FBI with  stacks of writing samples. Then the FBI reportedly couldn't decide whether Rachel wrote the letter either. I have always found all that highly suspicious. I've even wondered whether the FBI's 'inconclusive' report was part of the cover-up. It just doesn't make sense to me that even the FBI with all their tools and expertise failed to glean anything useful. And now, 50+ years later, we don't even know whether the letter still exists. I feel a LOT of effort has gone into perpetuating confusion regarding that letter. jmo

It may be more likely that Rachel wrote the letter than most of us think. Sure she could have been under duress but she also could have been tricked into believing the contents of what she was writing.

 

[Brightchaser47]

It may be more likely that Rachel wrote the letter than most of us think. Sure she could have been under duress but she also could have been tricked into believing the contents of what she was writing.

Now there's an interesting thought!
ETA: It would take someone very devious to pull a stunt like that!
jmo