GUILTY TX - Kari Baker, 31, found dead in her Hewitt home, 7 April 2006

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  • #241
iluvmua said:
Are they seeking life or death?

Matt is an EVIL man!!!!
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Life in prison, max. :-(

I bet if in the future they exhume Kassidy, the DP will be on the table.
 
  • #242
Does anyone know how we find out exactly what Bulls immunity covered?? I dont know if it is proprer or not, but I am PRAYING somehow she gets indicted for something..

I keep thinking "just be glad she came forward", or there probably wouldnt be a case, but my whole brain and heart is SCREAMING she could have STOPPED KARI"S DEATH, not only Karis death, because I knowing the faith kari had, KNOWS she is at peace. But her children. How did this women live these years knowing those little girls were living with and being mind controlled by a murderer, not just some random person, but the one who murdered their own mom. Thank God one girl or the other didnt do or say something to remind the monster of Kari.

Honestly if I live another 100 yrs, I think this will be the most unbeleiveable thing to hear. That women KNEW and coulda stopped it..blows my mind if you cant tell!

Some quotes from her that IMHO nailed HER coffin shut
"why should they I have done nothing wrong" WTHELLO is she stupid
"I wash my hands of this" does she really think she can just walk away, with her goofy smile and be done???
 
  • #243
mia g said:
Does anyone know how we find out exactly what Bulls immunity covered?? I dont know if it is proprer or not, but I am PRAYING somehow she gets indicted for something..

I keep thinking "just be glad she came forward", or there probably wouldnt be a case, but my whole brain and heart is SCREAMING she could have STOPPED KARI"S DEATH, not only Karis death, because I knowing the faith kari had, KNOWS she is at peace. But her children. How did this women live these years knowing those little girls were living with and being mind controlled by a murderer, not just some random person, but the one who murdered their own mom. Thank God one girl or the other didnt do or say something to remind the monster of Kari.

Honestly if I live another 100 yrs, I think this will be the most unbeleiveable thing to hear. That women KNEW and coulda stopped it..blows my mind if you cant tell!

Some quotes from her that IMHO nailed HER coffin shut
"why should they I have done nothing wrong" WTHELLO is she stupid
"I wash my hands of this" does she really think she can just walk away, with her goofy smile and be done???
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I am working on finding it - have been all day. I know this guy says full immunity, but I wonder if he KNOWS that or is ASSUMING it. From what she said on the stand, sounded to me like she got at least "use immunity" for her GJ testimony. I am holding out hope that that was all, but I see reporters saying immunity like it was full prosecutorial immunity.

Here is that link:
http://www.centraltexasnow.com/glob...g=Search Results&activePane=info&rnd=25154585

Yes, she had some real doosy quotes!
 
  • #244
http://www.jstor.org/pss/1340477

Interesting read. I don't think we will really know, 100% what type of immunity was given and when (since VB didn't seem to know herself) until after the verdict, because of the gag order.
 
  • #245
mia g, I wish I could answer your questions and offer some relief for anyone, but I can't. On one hand I appreciate VB coming forward and on the other hand I feel like it's a little too little and a lot too late. I am only left to pray that if another woman is ever in this situation, they scream off the rooftops that they are involved with a philandering monster who wants his wife dead.
 
  • #246
Wow! I wasn't familiar with this story until today. That woman needs to be punished - no doubt about it. If she walks away scott free - we have some serious problems with our justice system.
 
  • #247
mia g said:
Does anyone know how we find out exactly what Bulls immunity covered?? I dont know if it is proprer or not, but I am PRAYING somehow she gets indicted for something..

I keep thinking "just be glad she came forward", or there probably wouldnt be a case, but my whole brain and heart is SCREAMING she could have STOPPED KARI"S DEATH, not only Karis death, because I knowing the faith kari had, KNOWS she is at peace. But her children. How did this women live these years knowing those little girls were living with and being mind controlled by a murderer, not just some random person, but the one who murdered their own mom. Thank God one girl or the other didnt do or say something to remind the monster of Kari.

Honestly if I live another 100 yrs, I think this will be the most unbeleiveable thing to hear. That women KNEW and coulda stopped it..blows my mind if you cant tell!

Some quotes from her that IMHO nailed HER coffin shut
"why should they I have done nothing wrong" WTHELLO is she stupid
"I wash my hands of this" does she really think she can just walk away, with her goofy smile and be done???
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IMO, this is one messed up chick...she breaks up w/ the preacher man because she doesn't feel so safe anymore --knowing there were 2 deaths in his family, one which he admitted to -- and just walks away not caring about what happens to the children!! You're right -- WTHELLO!!

How does she eat or sleep knowing what she was involved in??
 
  • #248
Isn't there a rule about immunity being granted only if the testimony is complete and truthful? It seems like VB's testimny to the grand jury was not complete.

Also, I'm struck by the fact that Kari was killed on her "date night."
 
  • #249
It's all so tragic. This man is pure evil and his bimbo is not much better. Self preservation is all I see. Yuck!
 
  • #250
Hi all, Plz accept my apology for loosing it. I try not to be emotional on these boards..I usually can stop and walk away b4 I post. With this one I just havent been able to..too close. I think it is just truly hitting me Kari is gone. All along I think I pushed that fact to the back off my mind waiting for justice. Then add to it in my mind I just keep seeing her smiling face in the school halls.. bubbly.. her face shown with excitement.. I am not just syaing this because she is deceased.. honestly had this not happened I may not have spent time remembering her..but with it happen I am in shock and awe that someone could taek such a bright light.

I explained to one on the list, that Kari and I werent really 'friends". Here where we went to school is a small town(I moved away in 11th grade and it appears Kari also graduated somewhere else other then our home town) We did have friends in common, and in our town well literally everyone knew everyone. It isnt just something we say, it is true..most everyone is somehow or other related(except me I am a transplant at age 4..lol) either by blood or marriage. Kari was a yr or so younger then me. I just keep remembering where many teen girls are dark and brooding, Kari I dont recall every being that way. From my memories she was the one whose smile could really make a bad day better.

I am so sad that her girls will have to know this only because people tell them. I am sad that even for one minute her girls thought she choose to leave them.

Ty all for being a sounding board for me.. I again apolgize if it seems I went off the deep end earlier...then I get overwhelmed thinking how hard it was for us to hear the testimony..and then think ohhhh her poor family. All I know is to pray peace for us all.
 
  • #251
mia g said:
Hi all, Plz accept my apology for loosing it. I try not to be emotional on these boards..I usually can stop and walk away b4 I post. With this one I just havent been able to..too close. I think it is just truly hitting me Kari is gone. All along I think I pushed that fact to the back off my mind waiting for justice. Then add to it in my mind I just keep seeing her smiling face in the school halls.. bubbly.. her face shown with excitement.. I am not just syaing this because she is deceased.. honestly had this not happened I may not have spent time remembering her..but with it happen I am in shock and awe that someone could taek such a bright light.

I explained to one on the list, that Kari and I werent really 'friends". Here where we went to school is a small town(I moved away in 11th grade and it appears Kari also graduated somewhere else other then our home town) We did have friends in common, and in our town well literally everyone knew everyone. It isnt just something we say, it is true..most everyone is somehow or other related(except me I am a transplant at age 4..lol) either by blood or marriage. Kari was a yr or so younger then me. I just keep remembering where many teen girls are dark and brooding, Kari I dont recall every being that way. From my memories she was the one whose smile could really make a bad day better.

I am so sad that her girls will have to know this only because people tell them. I am sad that even for one minute her girls thought she choose to leave them.

Ty all for being a sounding board for me.. I again apolgize if it seems I went off the deep end earlier...then I get overwhelmed thinking how hard it was for us to hear the testimony..and then think ohhhh her poor family. All I know is to pray peace for us all.
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MIA G- YOU HAVE NOTHING TO BE SORRY FOR,IMHO -- BECAUSE YOU FEEL IS WHY YOU ARE NOT LIKE THE TOADS WE ABHOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not yelling just want you to know you are fine. Allowing the pain is how we make a difference. Never feel bad for feeling. You were not in any way in my opinion off base. I don't know any of the people and I cried and cussed like a drunk today. But, this is my but by the grace of God, there go I story and I know how important the lessons are for the world to see. They will only see, if they have the courage you do..............TO FEEL!
:blowkiss::balloons::sundae::Justice: and HUGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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  • #253
mia g, please don't feel badly about your emotional response to this situation. I don't know anyone in the family or anyone else. I watched the case on a news show and have been angry ever since. You had the benefit of knowing Kari, no matter how long or how deep the relationship was, it doesn't matter. You are a kind person and are praying for the best outcome of a very horrible situation. You seem to be a really good person. It's okay if you vent your frustrations, IMO, it's quite normal.

Justice for Kari.
 
  • #254
  • #255
http://www.wacotrib.com/news/content/news/stories/2010/01/20/01202010wacImmunitySidebar.html
Article in the local paper today.

Also, here's an interesting comment by a parent at Vanessa's school that was left on yesterday's live-blog comment section. Well, maybe I shouldn't quote because it's not my property or whatnot. Not sure of the lines there. But read comment from Concerned Parent at 8:54. Also Ruthie Sue at 7:03 "seems" to have some personal insight on Vanessa.
http://www.wacotrib.com/blogs/conte...ive_blog_matt_baker_murder_tr_1.html#comments

Heading back to court in an hour or so. Please continue your prayers for all. Thanks.
 
  • #256
The State and Defense has rested. The Judge recessed so he could prepare the charge for the jury. Looks like there's a possibility it could finish up today if the jury is quick.
 
  • #257
TCMom said:
The State and Defense has rested. The Judge recessed so he could prepare the charge for the jury. Looks like there's a possibility it could finish up today if the jury is quick.
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Yeppers, we have closing arguments then states last words then we are JURY WATCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who wants to sit with me for JURY WATCH!LOL
 
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  • #260
A_News_Junkie said:
MIA G- YOU HAVE NOTHING TO BE SORRY FOR,IMHO -- BECAUSE YOU FEEL IS WHY YOU ARE NOT LIKE THE TOADS WE ABHOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Not yelling just want you to know you are fine. Allowing the pain is how we make a difference. Never feel bad for feeling. You were not in any way in my opinion off base. I don't know any of the people and I cried and cussed like a drunk today. But, this is my but by the grace of God, there go I story and I know how important the lessons are for the world to see. They will only see, if they have the courage you do..............TO FEEL!
:blowkiss::balloons::sundae::Justice: and HUGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Had a good chuckle on "cried and cussed like a drunk" I feel like I have a major hangover this AM... I didnt watch the trial becasue I was afraid they would put that other monster on the stand.. I live entirely to close to Waco to have to listen to his lies and Kari bashing... So imagine my suprise to check in around 10 am, and it was over!?!?! I have read the blog on Waco Tribune..

I prayed about it and was reminded God said "Vengence is mine".

I still am afraid the defense has left it wide open for an appeal. I will pray NO ONE but NO ONE falls under Monster matts spell to represent him again.
 
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