Found Deceased TX - King Jay Davila, 8 months, taken by a woman from the car, San Antonio, 4 Jan 2019

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  • #641
exactly , I guess I mean the scenario if Grandparents are telling the truth about him being picked up at 7 ( which is looking totally impossible )

This is why I think the grandparents are involved in some way. I am sure LE knows what time CD got off work, we unfortunately do not. It's about a 40 min drive from Schertz to the West side (I used the park versus grandparent address). So I wonder what time he left his job and how much time he had. JG was at work when this happened which I assume is why KJ was at the grandparents. If he were the only child there, I wonder if he is the only one of ten they have custody of.
 
  • #642
It appears Davila has a commune of mothers and children. From what I’ve read - child support is only an issue with the mother who has two oldest sons - he was obviously much younger when they were born and didn’t understand repercussions of having ALOT of children. He may only have 8 - I’ve read the mother had 2 that were in custody of maternal grandmother.
My first impression was that mother was involved but I’m not so sure ... she seems to know something but her DEFENSE of him and the added “He knows what I went through to have this child” seems to be more of a DENIAL of what she suspects rather than actual support for Davila.
I think he has control of these women - the mothers - and he uses them for his business operation???
In NE Texas there are Hispanic men who have a group of women that are taken around like slaves to clean houses. It is believed they are paying for their entry into US - much like indentured servants of long ago.
There is supposedly a Black Market adoption operating in San Antonio - I’m praying this baby was given up for adoption - not harmed. Maybe it’s a 🤬🤬🤬 scheme? Moo.

From what I can tell all the relatives seem very Americanized, I don't think they're bringing in Hispanic wives to be slave-wives or anything else like that.

I don't see any evidence of a language problem for CD's generation...they seem to be bilingual with strong English that says to me they've been bilingual since childhood, not English as a second language.

I do agree that the mom's words have a lot of information in them. When she said that CD is more upset for her than for himself...what does that mean? It could mean that part of her was expecting him to blame her for something, and instead she feels he's being supportive in creating the cover-up.
 
  • #643
Picking up the child from grandma's might be deflection/distraction from the place where King Jay really was last at?

If the baby wasn't in the vehicle at the store, how do we know he was picked up from grandma's and put into the vehicle to drive to the store?

All CD has to do is pop into grandma's house and call out that baby's in the car so he can't stay in the house long but he wants them to know he's taking baby to the store and everything's fine.

From what I've read, the mom was at work when CD went to the store with the car seat. But what else do we know about each person's whereabouts in the previous 24 hours? All we know is that there must have been a last location where the baby was, and then by the time CD gets to the store there's only a car seat. At some point during that day AT was called or someone met up with her and asked her to participate in the abduction hoax, but she wouldn't really be doing anything 'wrong' because the car was being taken with CD's permission and she was only kidnapping a car seat, not an actual baby...it's just a favor to help out a desperate family member.

But how do LE get to the bottom of all of this when relatives are closing ranks and worried about saying too much in case they drop someone in it?
Whatever the reasons people are lying they might start realizing that covering up the murder of a child is a lot worse. If you don't CPS or welfare looking into things like fraud, turning in the guilty party or parties is probably in your best interest. You see this family and the people around them and it makes you not care who loses health insurance or if a sick old woman ends up in jail. If they start getting honest and do what they can to help get King back and stop covering for someone any semi crimes don't seem important. A baby missing after a fake kidnapping that's what cops are focused on now.
 
  • #644
I’m in the middle of making dinner right now so let me ask this.....WHO has told us CD was at work that day? There are whispers going around and I’m wondering if LE has actually told us that?
 
  • #645
When asked how they know Christopher Davila is telling the truth, his mother responded in a barely audible whisper.

“He’s my son,” Beatrice Davila said. “To kill someone? I don’t know. I don’t know.”

"Someone" is none specific. Does she have "someone" else in mind?

What caused her to immediately respond with “To kill someone?
Were there other question before this.?

ETA:

Asked where missing San Antonio child is, grandfather says: 'Only God knows.'

I don't like the use of deity.

I didn't read the entire article, only the quotes that were posted here. The grandfather was quoted as speaking in English but also using the term "mijo". So I would hypothesize that the grandparents don't have as strong English as the younger generation. But I would say that to the grandma "someone" means "a human being", and I think the dominant word is "kill" rather than to diminish the personhood of King Jay. Going down to a whisper when she says this sentence, to me that could indicate that it's a genuine fear that terrifies her that CD might be lying because he has harmed the baby to cause the baby's death.

The grandfather saying "only God knows" ... It could be fear that only God knows the baby's true whereabouts because the baby is now with God. I don't interpret it as invocation of deity due to guilty knowledge, more about fear of what the truth might be.
 
  • #646
I’m in the middle of making dinner right now so let me ask this.....WHO has told us CD was at work that day? There are whispers going around and I’m wondering if LE has actually told us that?
I need to check that. I wasn't sure if that was what CD claimed I would hope LE could confirm, but then again people seem willing to lie.
 
  • #647
His mom and dad better be careful, sick or not if you lie to LE you will be charged with obstruction.
I'm sure LE knows if he was working that day and what time he got off, if he was working.

Beatrice Davila said she and her husband were caring for King Jay on Friday evening. Christopher got off work at a lumber supplier in Schertz and stopped by sometime before 7 p.m. to pick up the baby. He told them he was headed home to his fiance, Jasmine Gonzales, on the Northeast Side.

Asked where missing San Antonio child is, grandfather says: 'Only God knows.'

BBM ... this sounds unlikely. I wonder what JG's working hours were that day, and what time CD got off work? If the grandma says baby was at their house in the evening, where was baby during the daytime hours?
 
  • #648
So Schertz is Northeast of SA & the grandparents live on the west side of SA, right? He had to drive from work on the far Northeast side all the way to the west side to pick up baby to drive all the way back to the Northeast side where he & the baby’s mom live. Why??? That’s quite a trip. Why wouldn’t the baby just be home with mom?

Considering where the people talking are putting the location focus -- grandma's house and Rodriguez park (remember JG saying LE need to search near where the car was dumped?) I think the baby is probably going to be located closer to the Northeast than the west.
 
  • #649
I’m sure LE confirmed if he was at work, I’m just not sure they told us.
 
  • #650
exactly , I guess I mean the scenario if Grandparents are telling the truth about him being picked up at 7 ( which is looking totally impossible )
Beatrice Davila said she and her husband were caring for King Jay on Friday evening. Christopher got off work at a lumber supplier in Schertz and stopped by sometime before 7 p.m. to pick up the baby. bbm

CD reported the alleged kidnapping at about 7pm. Also, it appears the mini mart, and park, are all in close proximity from where CD picked up the baby.
 
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From what I can tell all the relatives seem very Americanized, I don't think they're bringing in Hispanic wives to be slave-wives or anything else like that.

I don't see any evidence of a language problem for CD's generation...they seem to be bilingual with strong English that says to me they've been bilingual since childhood, not English as a second language.

I do agree that the mom's words have a lot of information in them. When she said that CD is more upset for her than for himself...what does that mean? It could mean that part of her was expecting him to blame her for something, and instead she feels he's being supportive in creating the cover-up.
I think we can put to rest any idea the last 2 generations here are nationals -- they're American born. CD has lengthy history of residency with dept of corrections, and his parents have a caretaker history with DCFS -- all govt agencies keen on their citizenship.

The problem I see is that neither the birth mom or CD seem overly concerned about baby KJ, but instead their focus is on each other. Baby mom informs us that child birth nearly killed both her and KJ, and CD trying to comfort HER and she him. Any sound bite from baby mom is not appeal for her son but criticism of LE. Baby KJ deserves so much more. MOO
 
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  • #652
Maybe some people have friends that think faking a carjacking and kidnapping is reasonable and ready the minute you call them.

Who needs friends with all of the characters in this family! MOO
 
  • #653
Beatrice Davila said she and her husband were caring for King Jay on Friday evening. Christopher got off work at a lumber supplier in Schertz and stopped by sometime before 7 p.m. to pick up the baby. bbm

CD reported the alleged kidnapping at about 7pm. Also, it appears the mini mart, and park, are all in close proximity from where CD picked up the baby.
BBM ... this sounds unlikely. I wonder what JG's working hours were that day, and what time CD got off work? If the grandma says baby was at their house in the evening, where was baby during the daytime hours?
Grandparent's cared for baby up until SOMETIME BEFORE 7pm when CD picked him up to take him home. CD Lumber Co. job most likely daytime hours -- grandparent's cared for baby all day up until sometime before 7pm. This is also what Police Chief said at the first presser.
MOO
 
  • #654
I’ve wondered if maybe the grandfather saying “only God knows,” was really meant as the figure of speech, “ God only knows.” I take that to mean more as “ I have absolutely no idea,” and not literally that God is the only one who knows.
It just sounded so odd how it was worded, but maybe it’s a language/cultural thing. Who knows.
 
  • #655
Social media spreading story of search for King Jay Davila around the globe

[...]

The story has been international news and is being shared by thousands of people across the globe on social media.

At a rate of about 400 people a day, more and more people are joining the ‘Where is King Jay Davila’ Facebook page.

“It kind of blew up,” said Michelle Centanni, she started the Facebook group from her home in Pennsylvania. Centanni says she starts Facebook groups for missing kids as a hobby.

“When we first started the group, the mother was in the group along with Savannah was in the group, we have had quite a few people in the group who are cousins,” Centanni said.

[...]

Some playing amateur detective, posting photos from Google, others commenting with speculation.

Some people are even posting psychic readings.

There's a lot of finger pointing and at times people post pretty nasty things.

"It kind of gets impossible, for the few people that we have managing the group, to see everything and get it removed. We are trying to make sure that anything that is inappropriate gets removed," Centanni said.

According to Centanni, she has gotten tips from people's posts and direct messages and she passes those to the police.

[...]
 
  • #656
IMO He didn't work that day, he didn't pick the baby up from his parents house just before 7:00, there was no kidnapping, there are a whole tot of untruths being said and there will be more arrests. I don't think that baby was alive on Fri. I also don't think that McManus was kidding when he said this.
“Even if you are not directly involved in this, if you are withholding information, if you have lied to the police, then we will charge you at the conclusion of this investigation,” McManus said.

https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/l...Tale-of-kidnapped-boy-made-up-to-13515618.php
 
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  • #658
The police dept is supposed to do a press conference at 7:30, 45 mins from now
 
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I saw a post of a picture of the person arrested with his relationship to the family. I am not sure if I can say though if it's not verifiable (dont want to break rules).
 
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