TX - LEO officer & bystander dead, 4 injured in College Station shootout, 13 Aug 2012

[Kimberlyd125]

Caffall, known as Tres, shot Bachmann at close range in the quiet neighborhood several blocks from Kyle Field and the Texas A&M campus.

The house at 211 Fidelity St. was listed five days ago on hotpads.com as being available Aug. 23 for lease at $700 a month.

http://www.theeagle.com/article/20120814/BC0101/120819806/1004/BC0101&slId=1

 

[Kimberlyd125]

The Texas Rangers said the scene was complicated because as soon as 911 calls started coming in, different law enforcement agents emerged on the scene. In fact, so many shots were fired from every direction that investigators were still trying to find out everyone who opened fire.

There’s still a lot we don’t know about this shooting, but what we do know is that the gunman was inside the home on Fidelity Street, the constable who died was on sidewalk outside the home, and the woman from Houston who was hit was driving by in a blue SUV.

http://www.khou.com/news/local/Texa...-shooting-near-Texas-AM-campus-166073766.html

 

[Kimberlyd125]

After Bullets Fly in Texas, a Soldier’s Wartime Training Is Needed at Home
By MICHAEL SCHWIRTZ


As bullets whizzed and officers fell with gunshot wounds, Mr. Cisneros, an Army medic with one tour of duty in Afghanistan, crept from his home across the street toward the firefight, snapping pictures and taking video.

He asked for permission to approach and assist, and received it. It was an opportunity to put his military training to use in the war zone that briefly erupted on his own block.

He first attended to Brian Bachmann, 41, a Brazos County constable. Mr. Bachmann was gravely wounded with a gunshot to the chest.

“I heard gurgling sounds,” Mr. Cisneros said when reached by telephone later. “He was on the ground for 10 minutes, and there was no motion at all.”

Mr. Cisneros said he could feel no pulse. He performed CPR.

When medics arrived, Mr. Cisneros turned his attention to the shooter, whom police identified as Thomas Caffall, 35. He had been shot multiple times and was handcuffed, pale and bleeding on his front lawn. But he was conscious and aware enough to comprehend what he had done.

“Could you please tell the person I shot I’m sorry,” Mr. Cisneros said Mr. Caffall had told him.

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/20...-soldiers-wartime-training-is-needed-at-home/

 

[stillwatersc]

Okay, IMO, if you are that frightened by or are suspecting someone of possibly doing harm to your family or others, why the heck wouldn't you go to LE with your concerns?? This whole "after the fact" thinking really makes me angry :banghead: Granted, I don't know the whole story, but the fear that he mentions could have saved lives if he'd acted on it. Again, IMO, and dang, I'm angry.

You can't report someone for nothing! I have a family member who I believe is dangerous. Most of the rest of the family (in-laws) are such enablers. They just think I'm crazy because I refuse to be near this person or let my children around him. I swear he is a sociopath. It is so surreal that all of us ladies who married into the family cannot stand him but his blood relatives think he's just a little irresponsible and needs to 'grow up' and someone should 'help him'. He is 30! Who do you report someone to? LE would just think you are nuts or have a grudge until the person gets caught committing a crime.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/...ive-care-after-college-station-shooting.html/

Dallas native in intensive care after College Station shooting

She was helping her daughter Sarah, a senior at the university, move into the Delta Delta Delta sorority house, a friend of Sarah said.

Sarah’s sorority sisters were initially told that Holdsworth was shot in both shoulders. Sarah was not in the car with her mother at the time.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

The closest witness appears to have been a man who was installing a satellite television system in a house on Fidelity Street. His identity was not available Monday night but several neighbors said they spoke with him immediately after the incident and he vividly described the gunfight.


“He heard five shots and runs out in the middle of the street and he sees a guy knelt over the dead police officer,” said Thomas McNutt, an A&M senior who spoke with the man before the scene was cleared. “The cop is just laying there lifeless. [Caffall] is taking out all of his equipment, his pistol and ammo.”

Soon after, the man came face-to-face with the shooter, McNutt said.


“He and the shooter made eye contact and he thought the guy was going to kill him. And for whatever reason he didn't and he got to run away,” McNutt said.


http://www.theeagle.com/article/20120814/BC0101/120819810/1004/BC0101&slId=3

 

[Kimberlyd125]

http://www.theeagle.com/article/20120814/BC0101/120819805/1148&slId=1

College Station Mayor Nancy Berry has lowered flags to honor Brazos County Constable Brian Bachmann.

City spokesperson Jay Socol said that an email was sent to city staff about 9 a.m. Tuesday stating that the flags at all city facilities would be placed at half staff.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Barbara Holdsworth, 51, was helping her daughter move when bullets rang out. Holdsworth lives in the Memorial area.

Sources told KPRC Local 2 that Holdsworth underwent surgery for a gunshot wound to her lungs. She was hospitalized in serious condition.

http://www.click2houston.com/news/H...ing/-/1735978/16102806/-/k5n20bz/-/index.html

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Barbara Holdsworth

www.click2houston.com




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"Barbara is still in critical condition in ICU but she is stable and doing well," said Lauren Paine, a family friend.

Trauma doctors in the emergency room worked on Holdsworth for 45 minutes before she went into surgery Monday.

Holdsworth is surrounded by friends and family at St. Joseph Hospital.


http://www.kbtx.com/home/headlines/...Shooting-in-Critical-Condition-166124646.html

 

[Kimberlyd125]

http://www.ksat.com/news/Suspected-...-hell/-/478452/16100330/-/qbkbtf/-/index.html

Suspected shooter's stepdad: 'He was crazy as hell'

"We are devastated for the families that this SOB killed," said Weaver. "He was a ticking time bomb."

KPRC Reporter Robert Arnold asked Weaver if he had any indication that something like this was coming.

"He was crazy as hell," Weaver said. "At one point, we were afraid that he was going to come up here and do something to his mother and me."

"We were hoping he'd kill himself before doing something like this," said Weaver. "We are just devastated for the families this SOB killed."

 

[stillwatersc]

Barbara Holdsworth

www.click2houston.com




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"Barbara is still in critical condition in ICU but she is stable and doing well," said Lauren Paine, a family friend.

Trauma doctors in the emergency room worked on Holdsworth for 45 minutes before she went into surgery Monday.

Holdsworth is surrounded by friends and family at St. Joseph Hospital.


http://www.kbtx.com/home/headlines/...Shooting-in-Critical-Condition-166124646.html

Thank GOD she is stable. Praying for Barbara's recovery.

 

[Always Amazed]

http://www.ksat.com/news/Suspected-...-hell/-/478452/16100330/-/qbkbtf/-/index.html

Suspected shooter's stepdad: 'He was crazy as hell'

"We are devastated for the families that this SOB killed," said Weaver. "He was a ticking time bomb."

KPRC Reporter Robert Arnold asked Weaver if he had any indication that something like this was coming.

"He was crazy as hell," Weaver said. "At one point, we were afraid that he was going to come up here and do something to his mother and me."

"We were hoping he'd kill himself before doing something like this," said Weaver. "We are just devastated for the families this SOB killed."

Not a nice way to talk about his wife's son/wife with the "SOB" comments.

IMO, legal guns become illegal guns every day in this country. It is the one thing thieves in my neighborhood are looking for when they break into someone's home. My parents had a gun stolen from them years ago when they were on vacation in a mobile home. Yes they reported it but chances are it was stolen by a criminal and subsequently used by a criminal during a criminal enterprise.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

IMO he "called a spade a spade".

I agree this man who killed and injured these people was an SOB and as his stepfather said, "crazy as hell".

JMO

 

[Kimberlyd125]

http://m.ksla.com/autojuice?targetU...ege-station-shooter-shares-childhood-memories

A former schoolmate of Caffall told us she and her childhood friends are still in disbelief over this shooting.

"Before I knew who the shooter was, I was devastated. That was just such a familiar area for me since I grew up in Bryan and went to Texas A&M University. My brother actually lived on [the street where the shooting happened] when he was a student at A&M," says Melissa Kitchens.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

“I heard after he shot Brian ... [Caffall] came out into the yard, took Brian’s pistol and bullets, and went back into the house,” McCleary said.


Sandy Farris, Bryan school district spokeswoman, confirmed that Caffall was a substitute teacher in the district from 1997 to 2003. Farris said information was not available on how many times he may have been in a classroom.


Caffall, at the age of 31, married a woman 23 years older than him in May 2007, according to county records. The couple has since divorced.

McCleary said Caffall’s father, Thomas Caffall II, died a few years ago and was a local architect.

The JP said he expects to receive preliminary reports on the bodies of Bachmann and Caffall on Wednesday. However, he said, the toxicology report on Caffall will take at least six weeks because it is being compiled in Chicago.

McCleary said on the Caffall’s autopsy report, he wrote that only the family could pick up the body of the gunman. Typically, he said, he’ll list a local funeral home, as well as the family, so the body can be brought back to the area.

“In his case, I just put ‘family.’ I’m not going to let the county be out the expense of going and picking up his nasty- body. If it cost us $200 to go pick him up, I’m not going to pay for it. The family can take care of that. I have no sympathy for him or the family.”

http://www.theeagle.com/article/20120815/BC0101/120819766/1004/BC0101&slId=3

ETA: McCleary= Precinct 1 Justice of the Peace Michael P. McCleary.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

http://www.theeagle.com/article/20120815/BC0101/120819762/1142

Police: Bachmann may have been shot before reaching door


Constable Brian Bachmann likely was shot before even reaching the front door of 211 Fidelity Street, where he intended to hand Thomas Alton Caffall III a notice that an eviction hearing had been scheduled and his presence would be requested, College Station Police Chief Jeff Capps said on Tuesday.

Chris Northcliffe, 51, was fatally shot on Highlands Street between Fidelity and Park Place while standing outside his vehicle, officials said.

Capps said processing the crime scene would likely continue through Tuesday night, but at about 5:30 p.m. authorities had scaled back the scene and were focusing on Caffall’s home and the immediate surrounding area, letting observers get a better view of the aftermath.

Near the area where police said Northcliffe died, what appeared to be the outline of a body laying halfway in the grass and half in the street was spray painted in a bright orange color, with a dark soiled spot located in the center.

In front of the house next door to where Northcliffe fell, 51-year-old Barbara Holdsworth had been shot three times inside her car parked on Highlands Street, authorities said. She was in the neighborhood helping her daughter move, police said.

Glass from a shattered vehicle window littered the street, marking the spot where Holdsworth was hit.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

http://www.theeagle.com/article/20120815/BC0101/120819764/1142

Northcliffe remembered for his ‘unique spirit’


Friends passed on describing Chris Northcliffe, the 51-year-old bystander who was shot and killed Monday by Thomas Caffall, as a man who would give anyone the shirt off his back.

Instead, he was the kind of guy, who, if you needed rocks for your driveway, he’d show up with a trailer full of them, or if your car broke down, he’d come with tow chain in hand, Northcliffe’s longtime friend, Joe Anderson said.

Northcliffe was meeting a contractor Monday afternoon at a rent home he owned on Grove Street, just northwest of 211 Fidelity where Caffall opened fire, killing a law enforcement officer.

Northcliffe had gotten out of his vehicle and was walking down Highlands Street where he asked someone crouched behind a vehicle what was happening, just moments after Constable Brian Bachmann was shot, Justice of the Peace Michael P. McCleary said.

As Northcliffe turned to face 211 Fidelity, he was shot in the chest and killed, McCleary said.

 

[songline]

Guns in the hands of law abiding citizens that wish to protect themselves against criminals that have arsenals are NEEDED.

The problem is much more people are killed daily in this country by illegal guns.

Ask England what happens when you take legal guns from citizens. They thought it was a great idea. So did the criminals. It gave them an even bigger advantage while carrying out their crimes because they knew the victim was not armed.

Guns don't kill people.
Spoons do not make people fat.


It's our ACTIONS.

This guy was in a house day in and day out playing violent video games.
He was a nut.

JMO

Kimmy, sadly we do have way to may MI people out there. I know it is always the gun that kills, I also know when put in the wrong hands, the gun did not go off by itself.
You are right about illegal weapons… I would like to see more done so that this too is decreased.

I never said take all the guns away from everyone. There is a huge difference in what I did say and what you replied.

To protect yourself I think one gun will do... it is not how many guns you need to protect yourself. ONE IS GOING TO DO THE JOB.
Screening people better is very important. So that less guns may end up n the hands of a criminal mind.
Walking in to a store and getting a gun in a half hour should not be.


Just as certification / licensing is required even for a truck driver.
So should it be with guns. One should have to pass not only ID and criminal check but also have to go to a range and learn how to use it safely and properly.
Just as Some do not get a driver’s license in a day. they should not get a gun in a day.

 

[songline]

http://www.theeagle.com/article/20120815/BC0101/120819764/1142

Northcliffe remembered for his ‘unique spirit’


Friends passed on describing Chris Northcliffe, the 51-year-old bystander who was shot and killed Monday by Thomas Caffall, as a man who would give anyone the shirt off his back.

Instead, he was the kind of guy, who, if you needed rocks for your driveway, he’d show up with a trailer full of them, or if your car broke down, he’d come with tow chain in hand, Northcliffe’s longtime friend, Joe Anderson said.

Northcliffe was meeting a contractor Monday afternoon at a rent home he owned on Grove Street, just northwest of 211 Fidelity where Caffall opened fire, killing a law enforcement officer.

Northcliffe had gotten out of his vehicle and was walking down Highlands Street where he asked someone crouched behind a vehicle what was happening, just moments after Constable Brian Bachmann was shot, Justice of the Peace Michael P. McCleary said.

As Northcliffe turned to face 211 Fidelity, he was shot in the chest and killed, McCleary said.

What a beautiful warm smile - so sad lease: tears....

RIP Chris Northcliffe

 

[songline]

My point Song, is yes, people were killed yesterday with a legally purchased gun.
I wonder how many people were killed yesterday by illegal guns?
I would be willing to bet it was a lot more.

It's a fact (sad fact) that if you take guns out of the hands of legal gun owners, they become prey of criminals who have them.

My family/home is protected by a man with a legal gun. If someone tries to do harm to my family, my husband will shoot to kill.

I understand what you are saying about safety checks and types of guns. But I strongly believe our focus should be on ridding our country of illegal guns.

Baton Rouge has a program called gas for guns where you can trade in guns for gas vouchers. It has been somewhat successful and last year took about 300 illegal guns off the STREETS of Baton Rouge.

http://www.wafb.com/story/15935461/gas-for-guns-campaign-returns-to-baton-rouge

As far as legal guns, there are checks and waiting periods. As legal citizens we have a right to own firearms.
You can't stop nuts like yesterday's gunman from killing innocent people if they are under the radar and have no criminal records. He could have very easily gotten an illegal gun and done the same thing.

JMO

I do not agree.
In Israel they all know how to use all types of guns. both male and female go to the army for 3 years - once they are civilians, they do not walk around with guns.
Can we say they have more enemys all around then anyone on the planet?
I think we can.

It is not about the rights to won... I say we should have the rights but WHO? WHEN? HOW MUCH? and HOW are they cleared to own.
:moo: Yes I feel strongly about it.

My father used to have a saying I liked. If you carry something you may need to use it. (what comes to mind is Zimmerman, although I do believe he was innocent, how would it have turned out if he did not carry?)