Found Safe TX - Lili Griffith, 14, & Lulu Bandera-Magret, 7, Round Rock, 30 Dec 2017

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  • #281
The lack of updates is excruciating. Just wanted to say, I'm settling in here, so anyone else sitting around in torment, too...you're not alone.[emoji992]️

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  • #282
This is so weird! So he knew the oldest daughter through her father from Louisiana! Why the heck would he move to Texas and move in with her mother?! Was this girl targeted from the beginning?

Sounds like it to me.

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  • #283
Are the grandparents in the hearing from the mother's or father's side?
 
  • #284
Thanks for bearing with me, and all that to build up to what I find really interesting: in March 2009 it was done and the grandparents got guardianship. Three months later there is a petition for additional orders in the 07/07/09 hearing:

THE COURT ORDERS THE MINOR IS NOT TO BE AROUND TERRY MILES AT ANY TIME.

After a permanent DVRO and TM is stripped of not only any form of conservatorship of his child, but also all visitation rights (agree with the attorney - not that he/she needs my validation - but major red flag here.....this mom was on meth and shacking up with someone and still got to see her child)...... Anyway,after the DVRO and loss of his conservator and visitation rights: WHY does the court need to specifically order mom not to have the child around him at any time years after the fact?

I just want to welcome you to WS and thank you for being a serious wealth of information and insight!! You’re an MVP on this as far as I’m concerned and hope you stick around!


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  • #285
First of all what people see on FB can be the total opposite of what the person is like in real life.
I know women who portray themselves as the greatest involved moms on FB and I know them in real life and just shake my head. I'm not saying this is the case but I usually never use FB as the way a person really is.
Miles is truly a creep and I hope these girls are found quick and safe.
Where in the heck are their Fathers?
 
  • #286
I’ve seen this question posed by a few posters so instead of answering to a post I figured I’d just write it separately. People have been asking if it’s known who the last person was to see the girls, and that has not, as of this time in any of the articles I’ve read, been shared.


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TM posted a pic of a pretty nasty wound that had been stitched up in Sept. Just wondering if maybe he and TB met when he was in the ER?
He was still in Louisiana then and named the hospital he went to in his FB post. Per MsMarple's link, Lili met TM when visiting her dad.....ugh.How he came to live with her mom in Texas is a whole other question. If you dig back in Tonya's posts though, you'll find that she visited Lake Charles (TM's - and therefore Lili's dad's - neck of the woods) just before Hurricane Harvey - she notes the hard time they had getting back in a few posts. They went to some sort of event there, and that's where many of the pics the media are using came from.
 
  • #289
I just want to welcome you to WS and thank you for being a serious wealth of information and insight!! You’re an MVP on this as far as I’m concerned and hope you stick around! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Thanks. I was here once before on another local case. It ended badly and I also had to walk away for awhile, and then found out I had my own coo-coo bird in my life so dealt with that for awhile. Fortunately the individual was more the "fraud-ey/steal-ey" type than the "murder-ey" type.....and I'm still here! Just a bit broker is all - ha ha. But pretty damned good at digging up records now!!I was at a friends when the Amber Alert came across all our phones on NYE. My little girl knows what they are and always asks what's going on and prays for them. I'll admit it being the holidays and seeing a man and two kids I kind of at first assumed it was a holiday custody standoff - there wasn't a lot of info on the initial alert. But knowing I'd get asked for an update I started googling yesterday and wound up back here. Praying for a better ending than the last one, though.
 
  • #290
He was still in Louisiana then and named the hospital he went to in his FB post. Per MsMarple's link, Lili met TM when visiting her dad.....ugh.How he came to live with her mom in Texas is a whole other question. If you dig back in Tonya's posts though, you'll find that she visited Lake Charles (TM's - and therefore Lili's dad's - neck of the woods) just before Hurricane Harvey - she notes the hard time they had getting back in a few posts. They went to some sort of event there, and that's where many of the pics the media are using came from.

He could have evacuated to Austin during Harvey. I live in Southeast TX about 30 minutes from Sulphur, LA and we often evacuate to that area when a hurricane hits.


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  • #291
Dornhoefer said Miles first met the older daughter Lili in Louisiana when she was living with her father. Dornhoefer was uncomfortable with the fact that Miles lived with Bates in this home with the children as well."

This is so weird! So he knew the oldest daughter through her father from Louisiana! Why the heck would he move to Texas and move in with her mother?! Was this girl targeted from the beginning?

That is really freaky and troubling. But hopefully he will want to keep them alive.

I just want to welcome you to WS and thank you for being a serious wealth of information and insight!! You’re an MVP on this as far as I’m concerned and hope you stick around!


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Ditto! I agree.
 
  • #292
I have been out all day and am just checking in to find these little ones have still not been found. :( I pray they are safe and this guy does the right thing.
 
  • #293

Now I want to barf after reading that- why why WHY was this man allowed to live amongst the rest of society with this criminal background? What a terrible justice system we have that disgraces and hurts the victims all over again and glorifies the damn suspects! Makes me sick!

Thanks for posting this. Sadly, it cements it for me that not only are the poor girls in danger with him, but I fear that the outcome won't be what we all wish for. Sick jerk!
 
  • #294
He was still in Louisiana then and named the hospital he went to in his FB post. Per MsMarple's link, Lili met TM when visiting her dad.....ugh.How he came to live with her mom in Texas is a whole other question. If you dig back in Tonya's posts though, you'll find that she visited Lake Charles (TM's - and therefore Lili's dad's - neck of the woods) just before Hurricane Harvey - she notes the hard time they had getting back in a few posts. They went to some sort of event there, and that's where many of the pics the media are using came from.

I'm not sure if it was a mistake but it says Lili met TM while she was living with her father, not visiting.

Dornhoefer said Miles first met the older daughter Lili in Louisiana when she was living with her father. Dornhoefer was uncomfortable with the fact that Miles lived with Bates in this home with the children as well.

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  • #295
We ask what is wrong with the world today? This monster is a good example! The court system has failed us, the citizens, in protecting us from such an evil monster. The one good thing the court did was to rule that TM could never be around his own child and gave a restraining order without an ending date. On his many other charges, the judge should have realized this was an evil person when he was stripped of being around his own child! Judges open your eyes, look at the many charges a person has, and you be the strong judge to throw him in jail for the maximum sentence!Judges must start cleaning our society up. IMO.[/QUOTECouldn't agree more, and would recommend to all the book "The Sociopath Next Door" by Martha Stout. On a board like this I'd assume these disorders have probably been discussed ad nauseum, so if I'm coming across the wrong way please know that I don't mean to. But she lays out how most of these folks fly just under the radar, even if they end up in the court system (often repeatedly), with little consequence. Not to mention that many of them don't mind what consequence they do suffer relative to the "payoff" - easier with little to no conscience and there's no way to get back what was taken (money, power.....a soul, etc).The problem is that one court may not know what is presently or has already happened in another court - even in the same jurisdiction, let alone different time zones. And then, even if everyone is well aware, there may be restrictions on what is allowed in court. Even if the judge is "aware", they may be required to consider it a "separate and unrelated" matter. If they appear to be biased the ruling could be overturned, they could face sanctions, and you can believe in a jury trial anything the defense attorney finds (or is part of discovery, and you can't bring it up in court if it wasn't disclosed in discovery) from the past will be quashed as much as possible. They know if it comes up it's hard for laymen to not have it in their minds (thus jury selection process, sequestering, etc)....I leave it to the resident legal beagles to correct me if I'm mistaken, but if I'm not: what would you recommend to pursue legal reform? Granted, we all have our moments we'd rather leave in the shadows.....but when it's not just an isolated poor decision or wrong place/wrong time and more an extended and persistent pattern of behavior: it really should be permissible in court. (Now, getting that info if you don't already know is another matter..........).
 
  • #296
I've been trying to post since last night and finally got registered. I've got a lot, so excuse my brevity and I'll try not to break any rules.....

1. in the Cali DVRO you'll see that it also involved a child; I don't think that was the son he references on FB (whose profile shows a different name for mom, anyway)
2. if you search the woman involved in the DVRO, you'll see a guardianship suit with her parents that went on for years involving another child - a little girl; and it does appear he's the father

I'll copy and post links shortly, but in summary the parents wanted her "previous relationship" considered - this was just after the rape, DVRO, etc..... There are references to photographing abuse, both parent have admitted to meth use, it was specified in a hearing (already after the DVRO) that TM - named specifically - was NEVER to be around the child. Basically, it all just sounds very, very bad. If what seems to perhaps being alluded to is the case, it was his own daughter and from the original filing she was still in preschool.

Links to follow......


Welcome! Glad to have you!:welcome:
 
  • #297
We ask what is wrong with the world today? This monster is a good example! The court system has failed us, the citizens, in protecting us from such an evil monster. The one good thing the court did was to rule that TM could never be around his own child and gave a restraining order without an ending date. On his many other charges, the judge should have realized this was an evil person when he was stripped of being around his own child! Judges open your eyes, look at the many charges a person has, and you be the strong judge to throw him in jail for the maximum sentence!Judges must start cleaning our society up. IMO.
Couldn't agree more, and would recommend to all the book "The Sociopath Next Door" by Martha Stout. On a board like this I'd assume these disorders have probably been discussed ad nauseum, so if I'm coming across the wrong way please know that I don't mean to. But she lays out how most of these folks fly just under the radar, even if they end up in the court system (often repeatedly), with little consequence. Not to mention that many of them don't mind what consequence they do suffer relative to the "payoff" - easier with little to no conscience and there's no way to get back what was taken (money, power.....a soul, etc).The problem is that one court may not know what is presently or has already happened in another court - even in the same jurisdiction, let alone different time zones. And then, even if everyone is well aware, there may be restrictions on what is allowed in court. Even if the judge is "aware", they may be required to consider it a "separate and unrelated" matter. If they appear to be biased the ruling could be overturned, they could face sanctions, and you can believe in a jury trial anything the defense attorney finds (or is part of discovery, and you can't bring it up in court if it wasn't disclosed in discovery) from the past will be quashed as much as possible. They know if it comes up it's hard for laymen to not have it in their minds (thus jury selection process, sequestering, etc)....I leave it to the resident legal beagles to correct me if I'm mistaken, but if I'm not: what would you recommend to pursue legal reform? Granted, we all have our moments we'd rather leave in the shadows.....but when it's not just an isolated poor decision or wrong place/wrong time and more an extended and persistent pattern of behavior: it really should be permissible in court. (Now, getting that info if you don't already know is another matter..........).

Repaired quotes. Somehow when that happens it just continues.
Don't know why. :thinking:
 
  • #298
He could have evacuated to Austin during Harvey. I live in Southeast TX about 30 minutes from Sulphur, LA and we often evacuate to that area when a hurricane hits. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
You make a very good point and this (Gulf Coast folks evacuating inland to Austin, San Antonio, etc) is true. Maybe she was asked to do a "favor" and he ended up overstaying his welcome? Maybe that's why it looked like he also moved in back in August?
 
  • #299
I agree. Having officers go to the home and knock on the door is nothing more that the boyfriend did. Actually the boyfriend did more. He tried calling her.

I wonder, did anyone bother to tell the cops when they called them for a wellness check, who her roommate was?

I'm imagining that if they saw that rap sheet, they would've busted that door down without a second thought, and there wouldn't have been a need for a second wellness check call.

All that precious time wasted, while he was able to escape with the girls in tow......argh!

I am not judging the poor victim, but what was she thinking rooming with this man without knowing more about him? Nowadays, you just cant be that trusting of others. Especially where she had young girls! Why didn't she live with the boyfriend instead, who seemed much more normal and caring and kind?
 
  • #300
Wow this is weird. If this is dad's friend maybe Tonya trusts her child's father's judgment? This gets stranger and stranger.
 
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