TX - Longview, WhtFem (UP 9863), 41-50, Suicide - Assumed Identity, Dec'10

[fred&edna]

Probably evidence that LE has dug up themselves. Which technically they don't have to divulge to the public. That and it could also mention names of people they haven't looked into or couldn't locate yet. One thing LE doesn't like is giving away all the info so that someone else can solve it lol . JMHO

I was curious as to HOW the person commenting obtained the info. - particularly because it would not be easily obtained. The same person has commented numerous times on the article - he/she could be connected to LE but I didn't get that impression.

Actually, I thought maybe the info was published somewhere and I HAD missed it!

 

[ClaireNC]

Well that's just silly. We can't go assuming she was way older just because she couldn't easily get pregnant and her family said so. I have a large group of friends all the same age and we all look different. Some look 5 years older, some look 5 years younger. So, 2 of them might look 10 years apart when in fact they are the same age. And young people can have just as much trouble conceiving as older women. Yes, of course it becomes more difficult as you get older, but for some it's never easy to begin with.

"We" are not saying she is older just because she could not conceive a baby. That is just one aspect that the article chose to report. She does look older than claimed in any of the photos available. But more important, the sophistication she demonstrated in designing the change to a new identity, is beyond what most 17 or 18 year old teenagers would be able to pull off. Besides, those of us who were teenagers or in our twenties in the 1980's can recognize people from our own generation.

I was born in 1959 and I am convinced that she is about my same age. I tend to look young for my age.

 

[AstroKitty]

So, this might be false info, but if for some reason it is true, Hand Models work under SAG/AFTRA rates.

http://www.sagaftra.org/what-commissionable

Their work has been pretty regulated for a long time, as hand and foot models in California work REALLY hard. There are not a lot of people who do this work.

SAG/AFTRA have great records.

I do not know what the comparable union/guild is for print models, but this is a start.

More: http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/personal/08/10/hand.modeling/#cnnSTCText

*I know extensive info first hand about SAG, modeling/acting as well as agencies.. so take this as truth.

let me expand on SAG stuff. You make the personal choice to join SAG and it takes X amount of SAG qualifying jobs to apply and get into the union. Everyone's agent normally attempts to steer them clear of ever becoming SAG. SAG is for actors ONLY. You cannot apply for sag if you are not an actor and haven't worked X amount of gigs that are sag qualifying. A model that qualifies for SAG will have had to do part modeling in commercials and film/tv

Hand and foot models are few and far in between. They are not that easy to find and personally I've never met one (and I've been with an agency since age 12). They are sorta like unicorns ... aka elusive lol. Part modeling is very lucrative to say the least, and most are signed with big top agencies.

I could go on for hours about SAG, so if you have direct questions regarding it, shoot me a line.

PS: There's casting websites that have files on people since the early 90's. I don't know if anything online exists for the 80's. Most would be totally aged out from the field.

 

[AstroKitty]

Premature aging: here's my opinion.

Bulimia or any other ED will age you quicker than if you just randomly lost weight. People that suffer from Bulimia tend to have other factors that contribute in overall health decline. Tooth decay from the vomiting and poor diet, early osteoporosis, swelling of the throat lining and esophagus and heart issues are very very common. Tooth decay is the first to be noticed along with pallid skin, a thicker than usual neck and puffy cheeks. If she battled her ED for extensive time, the damage would be noticed in autopsy when they looked at her heart or bones.

Malnutrition is a demon and has a snowball effect on people. Once the teeth become weakened it's just one thing after another it seems. To suffer from an ED you do have a mental illness, self harm is a mental illness (eating disorders are a form of self harm). Many people who've suffered from ED will often relapse when their outside world is spiraling out of control. After all,the one thing they can control is their food intake and weight. It's a control thing, and then it becomes self soothing in a sense.

If she suffered from this, and the rumors of her decline as well as erratic behavior even with her ex are true, she needed help long ago and didn't just suddenly snap. Sounds more like it was something she tried to control on her own (the depression or mental illness) but it escaped her clutches and she chose to take her own life. What is not astonishing to read but still bothersome - is that everyone noted her decline but no one thought to "5150" her to save her life. It was like "Oh lets just ignore it and talk about it instead" that sort of thing infuriates me. but that's neither here nor there at this point.

I really feel for her daughter. Having a child could have triggered many repressed feelings and further provoked her paranoia in being outed or caught from whatever she was running so far away for. She was running and changing names for a reason. She did things to better her life, yes that's true but it came with a hefty consequence

 

[Owutatangledweb]

Quote:
Originally Posted by neesaki
Interesting. I was looking on Ancestry.com for Robert A. King, all I find is a death record, gravesite, and Census record from 1940. Haven't had time to look further. I did come across an Eric A. King., but he wasn't listed in the census for Robert A.
Eric A. was about 52 y/o when he died in 1988. Frustrating I'm not able to pull up the obituaries for either one, I keep getting "Server Error"

Maybe it's something to do with my computer, perhaps someone else can try who has an Ancestry membership? I don't know what to think, other than I'm sure this is probably grasping at straws, lol, but FWIW, here is a stockbroker who committed suicide in 1987, and there is an Eric A. Any relation? Does it have anything to do with LEK? who knows....

Anyway, Eric A. immigrated from Ireland and applied for naturalized citizenship in 1985. Unfortunately there are no census records on him and his family available, at least I assume so, and none I can find.

Eric A's previous addresses are shown as:

4914 S 368th St, Auburn, WA, 98001-8861 (1992) ? (family member?)
[1530 Vista Dr, Puyallup, WA, 98372-5103]
[3331 South St 92nd, Tacoma, WA, 98402 (1987)]
[3331 South St 92nd, Tacoma, WA, 98498 (1987)]
Probably also grasping at (a lot of) straws, but if you look up that EAK on Peoplefinders, one of his "possible relationships" is with a woman with the first name Lorene. They appear to be the same age. Wonder if they had any children...




Wanted to show the "Lorene" part someone found and also to point out this guy died in 1988 as well. Maybe she was forced to start over? I.e. no legal immigration papers and now her relative is gone? I am new here. Is that what's called mustarding?

 

[FiveFelines]

Quote:
Okay, if I missed someone already saying this then I apologize cuz I skipped to the end to reply so I don't lose my thoughts. Did anyone else notice that "Eric A." King equals "Erica" and there was a relative Lorene there and then the last name begins with "K". Lori Erica Kennedy "july 18". Also, fivefelines posted a missing person from near Tacoma named King. I didnt take a close look at her pic and will go back. Already forgot her first name. Sorry.

Yes, I posted about Lorene earlier. Acc to Ancestry.com, she and EAK were married in 1961 and lived in the Tacoma area. EAK has been dead since 1988 but L is still alive. I could not access E's obit (also got a server error) to see if they had kids. But it was the weird name connection that led me to search for missing Kings in Namus. I'm sure I'm just chasing my tail with it, but it's certainly intriguing.

 

[FiveFelines]

Can anyone shed some light on identity brokers? I know nothing about them, but is this a "job" that a shady or disbarred lawyer might do?

 

[AngelaE8654]

Premature aging: here's my opinion.

Bulimia or any other ED will age you quicker than if you just randomly lost weight. People that suffer from Bulimia tend to have other factors that contribute in overall health decline. Tooth decay from the vomiting and poor diet, early osteoporosis, swelling of the throat lining and esophagus and heart issues are very very common. Tooth decay is the first to be noticed along with pallid skin, a thicker than usual neck and puffy cheeks. If she battled her ED for extensive time, the damage would be noticed in autopsy when they looked at her heart or bones.

Malnutrition is a demon and has a snowball effect on people. Once the teeth become weakened it's just one thing after another it seems. To suffer from an ED you do have a mental illness, self harm is a mental illness (eating disorders are a form of self harm). Many people who've suffered from ED will often relapse when their outside world is spiraling out of control. After all,the one thing they can control is their food intake and weight. It's a control thing, and then it becomes self soothing in a sense.

If she suffered from this, and the rumors of her decline as well as erratic behavior even with her ex are true, she needed help long ago and didn't just suddenly snap. Sounds more like it was something she tried to control on her own (the depression or mental illness) but it escaped her clutches and she chose to take her own life. What is not astonishing to read but still bothersome - is that everyone noted her decline but no one thought to "5150" her to save her life. It was like "Oh lets just ignore it and talk about it instead" that sort of thing infuriates me. but that's neither here nor there at this point.

I really feel for her daughter. Having a child could have triggered many repressed feelings and further provoked her paranoia in being outed or caught from whatever she was running so far away for. She was running and changing names for a reason. She did things to better her life, yes that's true but it came with a hefty consequence

I suspect the medication she was taking was probably something for a mental illness or depression or some such thing. Like I said earlier, if she had OCD of Tourette Syndrome her family would for sure know it or would have seen signs. I suspect the same about ADHD but I don't have any family members with that.

 

[Owutatangledweb]

https://missingkids.ca/app/en/missing_children_database

Canada is not far fetched. Looking at Darlene Tucker.

 

[huckleberryhound]

This is such a fascinating case to me , maybe because I was sort of living a parallel life for a while , I was born in the early 60's, grew up in Idaho, moved to Dallas in the late 1980s, even lived on the same street as LEK at one time (Melody Lane, Dallas). I am wondering if there is anyone, who has ever said they actually knew her before her marriage? Do all the stories of her life in Dallas before she was married come from what she told her husband?

 

[HerStory]

1) Has anyone read a copy of the book to maybe retrace JD's steps? How to Disappear Completely and Never Be Found - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2) Why would JD keep a copy of her supposed paper trail if she truly wanted to eradicate her old identity. Did she save them "just in case", and if so....just in case of what?

3) Someone mentioned earlier a potential connection to "The Order". Is it just me that finds it odd that one of the main people involved had a fictitious surname of Turner (Turner Diaries).

4) Here is an interesting article about a rape in 1984. The rapist's sentencing involved 402 months.

http://articles.mcall.com/1984-12-05/news/2441580_1_sentencing-guidelines-co-defendant-robbery

 

[True Crime Gal]

Here's a pretty intriguing thing someone on the Seattle Times comment section said:

Fascinating! Reading this sparked another memory, which may be a total tangent...: 1984 Rajneeshee bioterror attack - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. If you aren't familiar with this case: reclusive group living on a "Ranch" (commune) in Eastern OR* tries to poison The Dalles (the population center of the county) to try to sway an election.

(* Anything east of the Cascades is considered "Eastern OR" )

tcg

 

[AngelaE8654]

Fascinating! Reading this sparked another memory, which may be a total tangent...: 1984 Rajneeshee bioterror attack - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. If you aren't familiar with this case: reclusive group living on a "Ranch" (commune) in Eastern OR* tries to poison The Dalles (the population center of the county) to try to sway an election.

(* Anything east of the Cascades is considered "Eastern OR" )

tcg

I remember that. That group had the town of Antelope Oregon named Rajneesh Puram or some such thing, too. Remember that clearly.

 

[Kaliste]

Premature aging: here's my opinion.

Bulimia or any other ED will age you quicker than if you just randomly lost weight. People that suffer from Bulimia tend to have other factors that contribute in overall health decline. Tooth decay from the vomiting and poor diet, early osteoporosis, swelling of the throat lining and esophagus and heart issues are very very common. Tooth decay is the first to be noticed along with pallid skin, a thicker than usual neck and puffy cheeks. If she battled her ED for extensive time, the damage would be noticed in autopsy when they looked at her heart or bones.

Malnutrition is a demon and has a snowball effect on people. Once the teeth become weakened it's just one thing after another it seems. To suffer from an ED you do have a mental illness, self harm is a mental illness (eating disorders are a form of self harm). Many people who've suffered from ED will often relapse when their outside world is spiraling out of control. After all,the one thing they can control is their food intake and weight. It's a control thing, and then it becomes self soothing in a sense.

If she suffered from this, and the rumors of her decline as well as erratic behavior even with her ex are true, she needed help long ago and didn't just suddenly snap. Sounds more like it was something she tried to control on her own (the depression or mental illness) but it escaped her clutches and she chose to take her own life. What is not astonishing to read but still bothersome - is that everyone noted her decline but no one thought to "5150" her to save her life. It was like "Oh lets just ignore it and talk about it instead" that sort of thing infuriates me. but that's neither here nor there at this point.

I really feel for her daughter. Having a child could have triggered many repressed feelings and further provoked her paranoia in being outed or caught from whatever she was running so far away for. She was running and changing names for a reason. She did things to better her life, yes that's true but it came with a hefty consequence

Thanks button wasn't enough. You hit the nail on the head with that description of ED. It's also often coupled with other issues such as Anxiety, depression, OCD, drug misuse and alcoholism. Besides all of the medical problems you mentioned that are associated with ED, fertility is also typically affected.

 

[Kaliste]

I'm having a hard time understanding how her fingerprints aren't popping up somewhere.

What do you all think her story is? Your own theory of why she went to all this trouble just to live a seemingly normal life? A runaway from an abusive family? Abusive marriage? A kidnapped child? Illegal Immigrant? Aged out of the foster care system? Mental illness? Commuted or witnessed a crime? Personally I'm leaning towards her being raised in a commune/cult or a polygamous LDS community. Maybe she never had a SS number or BC.

 

[AstroKitty]

What was the cult out west that (well, it's everywhere but I seem to recall CA being pivotal) there was a huge uprising and child was in these zines and manuals? "The family"?

 

[CaseCracka]

1) Has anyone read a copy of the book to maybe retrace JD's steps? How to Disappear Completely and Never Be Found - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2) Why would JD keep a copy of her supposed paper trail if she truly wanted to eradicate her old identity. Did she save them "just in case", and if so....just in case of what?

3) Someone mentioned earlier a potential connection to "The Order". Is it just me that finds it odd that one of the main people involved had a fictitious surname of Turner (Turner Diaries).

4) Here is an interesting article about a rape in 1984. The rapist's sentencing involved 402 months.

http://articles.mcall.com/1984-12-05/news/2441580_1_sentencing-guidelines-co-defendant-robbery

Nice catch on the 4th one. I've maintained all along that the 402 months is a prison sentence. Although I have been opened up to the idea that it could be a religious sort of statement as well. Unfortunately the name of the victim could never be found out in that case.

 

[JenWilkersonseeker]

I'm looking through ALL of the posts to see if Melissa Highsmith has been brought up, but while I do that, if anyone specifically remembers, I would appreciate it if you could let me know and save me the trouble. http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/highsmith_melissa.html
I just can't help thinking that Lori was probably protecting the person who kidnapped her as a child and raised her- which explains why she took on a new identity when she turned 18.

 

[JenWilkersonseeker]

Yes, I found MANY previous mentions of Melissa Highsmith. LR looks so much like the age-progressed pic it's unreal, and it also just "feels" more like she is protecting someone than hiding from someone, I guess because if she was hiding from someone, she would have put his name in the box in hopes of him getting caught eventually. KWIM?

 

[astridxx]

The only problem with Highsmith though is that if LEK had a birthmark like MH has it would have been mentioned I'm sure.