TX - 'Lori Ruff', Longview, WhtFem UP9863, *General Discussion and Theories* #2

[Lamima]

http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/news...d-still-be-alive/story-fni0cx12-1227288968942


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Hmmm...what about this one?

 

[Damarna]

Wouldn't investigators be able to hazard a guess what condition she was being treated for by the name of the medication? Treatment for ADHD would not be the same as for OCD. Treatment for OCD would not be the same as for Bipolar. I don't know what is prescribed for Tourette's but since it is related to OCD I would think maybe the same meds could treat both those conditions. I suffer from OCD along with the vast majority of my relatives and we all take SSRI medications. However, since Bipolars are so often misdiagnosed because they are reporting their depressive symptoms and often not the manic symptoms when they feel good. prescribing SSRIs to someone who is Bipolar can have disastrous results. My husband and another relative were both misdiagnosed with depression rather than as being Bipolar and the SSRIs magnify the manic state, make it much worse and make the person go into mania more often. If FLEK were prescribed the wrong meds like this then she easily could have fallen into the sad state that was reported of her in her final few months.

Meds for Tourettes Syndrome (TS) vary depending upon the typically co-exsisting condition. My son has TS and is on the extreme end of adhd and depression. For him the symptoms escalate with his level of focus (or lack there of) and his depression. Prozac has helped him. Its possible one may not know she was diagnosed with TS unless looking at medical documents.

 

[Owutatangledweb]

Someone in the last couple pages said they accessed the name change case number. Did you access this online?

DC-88-08354.

If so, can you give us a link?

 

[Owutatangledweb]

Although I think the girl who set a fire killing her family is not FLEK because of her age, I do think that FLEK has probably had multiple aliases and probably changed her name in the same manner at different times. I also still think she may have used different names at the same time and may not have always been in texas consistently since the change to Lori. No one has set forth any evidence that anything on her resume is legit. That resume is the only thing we have that gives us the assumption that she was in Texas the whole time. Unless we know that anything on that resume has been verified, I think these other possibilities are still wide open.

 

[milkymama]

Here is the link to the case. There isn't much in there.

http://courts.dallascounty.org/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=2167724

 

[milkymama]

Here is the link to the case. There isn't much in there.

http://courts.dallascounty.org/CaseDetail.aspx?CaseID=2167724

I realized that direct linking doesn't always work on that site. If the link doesn't take you directly to the case - Then to get to the case, click the link below, then click "Civil District Case Information". Then search by name. Becky was spelled "Beckey".

Here it is: http://courts.dallascounty.org/default.aspx

 

[Owutatangledweb]

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I realized that direct linking doesn't always work on that site. If the link doesn't take you directly to the case - Then to get to the case, click the link below, then click "Civil District Case Information". Then search by name. Becky was spelled "Beckey".

Here it is: http://courts.dallascounty.org/default.aspx

Thank you! I was looking in probate. That's what it would be on Ohio. I think Velling probably exhausted everything that was in that physical file or on microfiche.

 

[evafiore]

I suspect that she's one of many "missing missing," missing persons who are not listed on databases (there are some sources and blogs dedicated to listing such cases). One major reason LE may choose not to list a missing person would be strong evidence suggesting that the person has disappeared voluntarily---as would have likely been the case for the woman posing as LER. Other cases may not be listed because of failure to report the person missing, as with the Grateful Dead fan case.

I've noticed several posts in genealogical forums, by people who are seeking someone who has disappeared but has not been listed by LE as missing/not reported officially. Though these likely aren't her, here are some examples:

http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.shaw/1425/mb.ashx

http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.kelton/37/mb.ashx

http://www.genealogy.com/ftm/b/r/e/Rita-Breeding-FL/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-0404.html

Maybe it would help to create some awareness of this case on genealogical websites? Perhaps someone might notice a gap in their tree that fits with this case??

 

[Skully]

Never heard of this case, well never read about it. I saw the thread here, but yesterday saw part of her story on the Missing show. Very crazy. She could have been a foster kid that just took off and reinvented herself. We hear of kids that took off years ago and no one reported them missing. With the system as bad as it is, no telling how many do this. She was smart though. You guys are amazing on this thread BTW.

 

[Cyan]

Sorry if I am repeating something that is probably irrelevant.. but I noticed that on anything that actually requests FLEK to sign a middle initial, she does not.

Her handwriting "seems" older. I'm in my mid-thirties and it reminds me very much of my great-grandmother's handwriting.

 

[antechinusRAWR]

I *think* I've read every thread on this case on WS from start to finish over the last year or two but I've never posted. I did have an idea that I don't *think* has been covered in much detail, although it seems it's been kind of touched on in the last few pages re the girl accused of setting fire to her family home.

My idea was to maybe search extreme juvenile crimes during the late 60's - mid 80's? There was a story relatively recently of a respected college professor who turned out to have killed his entire family as a teen in the 1960's (can link, just wasn't sure if it was ok). To make it brief, following the murders he was found to be suffering a drug-induced psychosis & was committed to an institution. Without access to the substance he'd been abusing, he recovered. He was then deemed well at some point, released & then he returned to college under a new name (legally changed - perhaps if he hadn't changed it legally, he may have escaped his recent return to infamy)

If some or all of LEK's immediate family died as a result of something she did/was party to as a juvenile, it could explain no-one looking for her & the lengths she went to to seperate her "before" & "after" lives. If she had been confined to a juvenile facility as a result of such an incident, it wouldn't be unheard of for surviving family & friends to cut contact immediately & completely wash their hands of the accused. Following her release/probation after age 18, even state depts/govt agencies wouldn't keep track of her.


So I guess I'm wondering if there's been any focus yet on searching these sorts of historical juvenile cases? (huge apologies if it's already been covered, I definitely could've missed a thread or 2 over the years)

 

[Owutatangledweb]

Unfortunately, juvenile cases are hard to research due to privacy issues. Some DO make the papers.

Check out number 6 on this list. This young lady would have been born in 1955, the outside limit of out age range. However, keep in mind the passport to London. :

http://www.oddee.com/item_98884.aspx

 

[milkymama]

Was it ever reported which DMV the BST driver's license was obtained at? If it was just over the border from a particular state, then that could indicate a direction of travel. (Or if closest to an airport, that she flew from somewhere that was not a feasible place to drive from.) Or if it was the closest one to the address on the license, it could point to the fact that she did actually live or at least have connections to (family perhaps) that address or the vicinity of it.

 

[shadowdancer]

Unfortunately, juvenile cases are hard to research due to privacy issues. Some DO make the papers.

Check out number 6 on this list. This young lady would have been born in 1955, the outside limit of out age range. However, keep in mind the passport to London. :

http://www.oddee.com/item_98884.aspx

Mary Bell is not FLEK. Although she has been given a new identity, the British press know who and where she is and they always have. She has never resided outside of the UK and she is still alive today.

 

[Owutatangledweb]

Mary Bell is not FLEK. Although she has been given a new identity, the British press know who and where she is and they always have. She has never resided outside of the UK and she is still alive today.

Thank you. I was also pointing out through this that juvenile identities are protected and that it would be difficult to search these unless in the media (which you did). THANK YOU!

 

[shadowdancer]

Thank you. I was also pointing out through this that juvenile identities are protected and that it would be difficult to search these unless in the media (which you did). THANK YOU!

Its a good thought. In the UK we are just a small island really, so these juveniles can never hide so well that the press can't find them.

However, in the US it would probably be much easier just because there is such a vast area that they can move around/live in.

 

[evafiore]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unreported_missing

 

[dogperson]

I still keep wondering if FLEK was the daughter or family of some infamous person but she didn't qualify for witness protection, just didn't want to be associated with that person. I even took the time to see when Ted Bundy's daughter was born (she's too young to be FLEK). But she definitely wanted to hide something so desperately that the thought of it coming out somehow in the divorce may have led her to suicide. It's either something in her own past or family or I think she was deathly afraid of someone.

 

[shandram19]

Have we considered Kathleen "Kathy" Shea as a possible FLEK? IMO Her eyes and teeth look similar.

http://patch.com/pennsylvania/northhills/unsolved-cases-kathleen-ann-shea-333335b3

 

[evafiore]

I still keep wondering if FLEK was the daughter or family of some infamous person but she didn't qualify for witness protection, just didn't want to be associated with that person. I even took the time to see when Ted Bundy's daughter was born (she's too young to be FLEK). But she definitely wanted to hide something so desperately that the thought of it coming out somehow in the divorce may have led her to suicide. It's either something in her own past or family or I think she was deathly afraid of someone.

Seems like a stretch, no? With the estimated number of unreported missing people in the country, it seems a h*ll of a lot more likely it's someone no one is looking for.