TX - 'Lori Ruff', Longview, WhtFem UP9863, *General Discussion and Theories* #4

[Linda9681]

sorry work was CRAZY today! I cleaned it out now

I also am interested in what name the PO box in Nevada was registered to , and when it was opened.

 

[CallMeTres]

Didn't she tell the Ruffs that she had lived in Scottsdale prior to moving to TX?


Also, wasn't the NV address actually a mail drop rather than a mailbox? The stuff sent there was being forwarded to TX, right?

 

[fred&edna]

sorry work was CRAZY today! I cleaned it out now

I also am interested in what name the PO box in Nevada was registered to , and when it was opened.

Thanks for the spring clean out

I swear I thought the PO Box was in Sparks, NV... but when I went back and read some comments on the Seattle Times article and the first few pages said "Boulder City". I don't trust myself any more

:thinking:

 

[c8080]

Thanks for the spring clean out

I swear I thought the PO Box was in Sparks, NV... but when I went back and read some comments on the Seattle Times article and the first few pages said "Boulder City". I don't trust myself any more

:thinking:

It definitely wasn't Sparks. I lived in Reno, and I would have remembered that connection.

I'm thinking it had to be a mail drop and not a PO Box. I've had a few PO Boxes, and I've always had to provide proof of a local street address.

 

[Beezneez]

Didn't she tell the Ruffs that she had lived in Scottsdale prior to moving to TX?


Also, wasn't the NV address actually a mail drop rather than a mailbox? The stuff sent there was being forwarded to TX, right?

This answers a question for me, I wondered how mail was getting from NV to TX. If she set it up with the name Lori Kennedy on her way from ID to TX I don't know what kind of info we can gather from it. Unless someone sees the Idaho ID & was mailing stuff to her, thinking it was her home. A former friend or relative, like a distant dad that maybe sent money thinking he was supporting his daughter?
*Nevermind, she wasn't LEK until after she got to TX. My brain is all over the place.

 

[fred&edna]

It definitely wasn't Sparks. I lived in Reno, and I would have remembered that connection.

I'm thinking it had to be a mail drop and not a PO Box. I've had a few PO Boxes, and I've always had to provide proof of a local street address.

Thank you You're are correct!

"But the rest of the clues led to dead ends. The attorney named on the paper, a man in California, said he didn't know anything about this mystery woman. A deeper hunt revealed a mail drop under her name in Boulder City, Nev., that forwarded her mail to Dallas."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/authorities-struggle-id-mystery-woman-article-1.1383957

 

[sunnynz]

Thank you You're are correct!

"But the rest of the clues led to dead ends. The attorney named on the paper, a man in California, said he didn't know anything about this mystery woman. A deeper hunt revealed a mail drop under her name in Boulder City, Nev., that forwarded her mail to Dallas."

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/authorities-struggle-id-mystery-woman-article-1.1383957

So the mail drop in NV was in the name BST right? What would be the point of having a mail drop in that name if she then changed her name again so quickly to LEK? What mail other than the initial ID card would she be expecting to receive under the name BST?

Unless she'd been living under the name BST since well before she applied for the birth certificate and was expecting mail from someone/people who knew her by that name, would that be possible without an ID card in the 80s? To live under a name without the accompanying official documentation I mean.

 

[DrDella]

I beginning to think she might have had multiple identities going at once. I think most of us would agree by the end of her life she was suffering from mental illness, but I wonder why she didn't destroy the items in the lockbox. Were they all things she knew would send people on the wrong path?

 

[fred&edna]

Handy time line prepared by ClaireNC in 2013 (when all the details were fresh)

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...-Thread-*NO-DISCUSSION*&p=9655821#post9655821

 

[fred&edna]

So the mail drop in NV was in the name BST right? What would be the point of having a mail drop in that name if she then changed her name again so quickly to LEK? What mail other than the initial ID card would she be expecting to receive under the name BST?

Unless she'd been living under the name BST since well before she applied for the birth certificate and was expecting mail from someone/people who knew her by that name, would that be possible without an ID card in the 80s? To live under a name without the accompanying official documentation I mean.

I can only guess that there was someone she trusted, someone she continued to communicate with (after one or both name changes) someone who knew her true identity. Maybe they are still living (and continue to keep her secret) or maybe this person died before Lori?

 

[newfiedee]

Sorry i had a email Lori and Cheryls dna are in codis, so they aren't a match. she explained that if they were a match it would have created ahit.

 

[LaLaw2000]

Yep. Like I said I have no way of verifying this person other than paying for an investigation lol! But unless he is conducting a huge prank with fake linked in messages I am guessing he is legit


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I wonder if Velling knows this person is sharing his emails? Not very professional of this PI, imo.

 

[ALTCMT]

boise id #910-02-0084


the 910 is area code .900-999 ITIN* Individual Taxpayer Identification Number if next two digits are in range 70-88. then punch in 02 and it says not issued.
This site explains how ss# are done .
https://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/geocard.html
this site you can decode a SS#
http://www.stevemorse.org/ssn/ssn.html

Does anyone have any other thoughts on the social security number listed on the Idaho I.D. (assuming that's what it is)? The number comes up as an "Individual Taxpayer I.D. Number". Per IRS.gov:

An ITIN, or Individual Taxpayer Identification Number, is a tax processing number only available for certain nonresident and resident aliens, their spouses, and dependents who cannot get a Social Security Number (SSN). It is a 9-digit number, beginning with the number "9", formatted like an SSN (NNN-NN-NNNN).

To obtain an ITIN, you must complete IRS Form W-7, IRS Application for Individual Taxpayer Identification Number. The Form W-7 requires documentation substantiating foreign/alien status and true identity for each individual. You may either mail the documentation, along with the Form W-7, to the address shown in the Form W-7 Instructions, present it at IRS walk-in offices, or process your application through an Acceptance Agent authorized by the IRS. Form W-7(SP), Solicitud de Número de Identificación Personal del Contribuyente del Servicio de Impuestos Internos is available for use by Spanish speakers.

 

[BigCityAccountant]

Thank you ClaireNC! I knew I wasn't going that batty!

Looks like she obtained a birth certificate for $7.00 and a Trust document for $4.00.

 

[BigCityAccountant]

I'd like to know if anyone thinks this is a "young" FLEK?

 

[trixandhoney]

I wonder if Velling knows this person is sharing his emails? Not very professional of this PI, imo.

I'm pretty sure he knows the publicity this case has generated. He wanted the Seattle Times article written because he was at a dead end and needed the public's help. IF that's a legit message from Velling, I feel certain he wasn't sending anything he didn't want repeated. He's not personally or emotionally attached to the case. He (was) an investigator for the SSA, at at the end of the day his job is/was to solve LEK's crime.

 

[trixandhoney]

I'm pretty sure he knows the publicity this case has generated. He wanted the Seattle Times article written because he was at a dead end and needed the public's help. IF that's a legit message from Velling, I feel certain he wasn't sending anything he didn't want repeated. He's not personally or emotionally attached to the case. He (was) an investigator for the SSA, at at the end of the day his job is/was to solve LEK's crime.

Can't edit but wanted to add:
I personally always take every "inside scoop" with a grain of salt, especially when posters are vague or give minor details then disappear for days. I appreciate Linda posting the actual communication, even if it turns out the source was fake or mistaken.

 

[Beezneez]

I'd like to know if anyone thinks this is a "young" FLEK?

The brunette could be. I think it's the curls & eyebrows. She also looks hopeful in the same way LEK looked in the early IDs.
Do you mind my asking who that is?

 

[Beezneez]

I want to add, that pic really looks like it could be her. The timing would be right based on the curtains & clothes too. You've got to tell me who that is!

 

[BigCityAccountant]

I want to add, that pic really looks like it could be her. The timing would be right based on the curtains & clothes too. You've got to tell me who that is!

I promise I will, and as you have stated I too believe it looks like the picture from the Idaho ID. Timing is correct as well. But, I don't want to say just yet because I'd like to see if more people think she could be a possibility. (I have a reason for wanting a few others to reply, which I will reveal later) I will say she is a missing person.